Good or bad info on cloning? Please help x

[StonerPoker]

I've been told that clones from a mother plant that came from seed can turn hermaphrodite even though the mother is plant was flowered and proven to be only female.

To avoid this, they say that the clones must also be flowered to see if that some (up to 90%) don't turn hermaphrodite. Are some genetics of the mothers plants more likely to turn hermaphrodite just from the cloning process alone?

I've been checking up everywhere, and have so far only found that stress or light leaks cause female clones to hermie.

I got the info from someone who I think is a professional, but this has me doubting as I can't find anyone else who thinks this.

As far as I know all clones have the same genetics as the mother, and only stress can make them hermaphrodite.

Please help me here, they have me so confused with this right now as they are the only professionals I know. And a lot of my knowledge has come from them.

P.S. they won't back down from this argument

 

[Trich_Tyson]

The clone is the exact same thing as it's mother (or father).. literally.

If the mother is easily stressed to herm.. so will the cuts.. since it's the same plant.

You can run momma dukes flawlessly round one,
Then run her again on round two but fuck up a timer or get a pinhole from your kitty scratching your tent.. and stress it enough to herm. Same likelihood as the mom.

This works opposite as well... but if she caused problems herming the first round.. you probably didn't run her again.

I'm not sure if that's the question.

I'm not a professional either.

 

[StonerPoker]

More or less what I was asking, Thanks for the fast reply

It was more to know if certain mothers herm just from the cutting/ cloning process.

I have been told that some mother plants will herm at a high percentage just from the cloning process, even if cloned perfectly.

Thanks again...

 

[StonerPoker]

When you say "If the mother is easily stressed to herm". Does this mean the mother needs testing by cloning stress to see if she herms easily?

 

[StonerPoker]

I've just found out that another reason for hermies is cloning and then not giving enough vegetation time before switching to flower. Does anyone know if a long veg time will take away all stresses from the cloning process?

 

[Trich_Tyson]

Some plants are going to be more resistant to stresses that may induce the reaction in other plants. And yes, I suppose you could take enough clones to stress a mother.. but unless the mother is already in flower or going in shortly it should bounce back.

Cutting branches is stressful.. but it shouldn't cause your plant to herm. Be reasonable with your mother.

 

[StonerPoker]

Thanks Trics
I posted this in the Growing Questions forum too, I just thought no-one would answer due to the uninviting title. There are good answers there too https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=325282

I think the conclusion is that the clones don't need flowering to prove the genetics can handle the cloning process. And I think the idea of this has come from not putting the clones in vegetation for long enough before switching to flower. And flowering too close to the stressful cloning time.
Thanks again, you've helped me loads

 

[moses wellfleet]

Er if you got other info from the same source, I would be worried, very worried!

 

[StonerPoker]

Er if you got other info from the same source, I would be worried, very worried!

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[moses wellfleet]

KEEP
CALM
AND
MAKE
CLONES

 

[stoned-trout]

I have never had a stable mom have her cuttings herm just from the cloning process...yeehaw..and I take lots of clones