Global WARMING ....a message.

[Blunt_69]

Makes me wonder about human kind... how much more black and white do we need.http://www.peekvid.com/feature/movies/57/An-Inconvenient-Truth.html

Bout an hour and a half.. I found it very interesting

 

[TrichomusCaesar]

I've seen it already. Fantastic documentary.

Everybody on the planet should be forced to watch that video. It should be law to watch it once a week to remind us that we have control over what happend weather-wise and that our demise will be our own damn faults.

What should also be thoroughly conveyed....is the message that this shit isn't very distant at all. It can really come into effect for everyone.

^I say this because a lot of people have the attitude that "Oh...I'll be dead by the time anything that bad happens...I don't give a fuck...I'll let my grandchildren worry about it"

It's a sad state of affairs ladies and gentlemen.

 

[ogrefugee]

call me crazy, but i'm still a skeptic

 

[vhGhost]

The other day i was reading the news paper and they talked about these scientist that all agreed that by the year 2020 we should be seeing alot of Devistating storms, Great Lakes dry, especially northern US. alot of info i can't remember but i'll try and find the article for you guys .. great post Blunt!!! i want my kids to have a happy, and safe life to !!!

 

[Guest]

Grandpa, what were forests like?

 

[_TorontoSmoke_]

I have a test that includes a question on this movie tomorrow, i transferred to the class late and when i joined there was about 5 mins left, what would you guys say are the main focuses and most significant parts of this film?

 

[TrichomusCaesar]

watch the fuckin movie

 

[Guest]

Please note : The article has been written in short sentences rather than paragraph-form because it is about subjective experience / emotion/ reduction of thought.

Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.

Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel.
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet.
Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist.


Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking.

If there are no gaps there is no emotion.

Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion.


When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing.

There comes a time when there are almost no gaps.

People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps.

Emotion ends.

Man becomes machine.



A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety.



FAST VISUALS /WORDS MAKE SLOW EMOTIONS EXTINCT.

SCIENTIFIC /INDUSTRIAL /FINANCIAL THINKING DESTROYS EMOTIONAL CIRCUITS.

A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY CANNOT FEEL PAIN / REMORSE / EMPATHY.

A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS BE CRUEL TO ANIMALS/ TREES/ AIR/ WATER/ LAND AND TO ITSELF.


I am trying to get the following experiment conducted in a psychophysiology/ bio-chemistry laboratory.

There is a link between visual / verbal speed ( in perception, memory,
imagery ) and the bio-chemical state of the brain and the body.

Emotion can intensify / sustain only when visual and verbal processing
associated with the emotion slows down ( stops / freezes ).

The degree of difficulty of an emotion depends upon the degree of
freezing (of visuals and words ) required to intensify and sustain that
particular emotion.


Experiment:

Subjects (preferably actors specialising in tragedy / tragic roles )
will be asked to watch a silent video film showing any of the
following:-

(1) Human suffering.
(2) Animal suffering.
(3) Suffering ( Destruction ) of Air / Water / Land / Trees.

Subjects will be asked to intensify and sustain the subjective feeling of pain/ grief for the sufferer.

The chemical changes associated with the emotion in the body(blood) would be measured by appropriate methods.

The silent video film will be shown at different speeds :
(1) 125% of actual speed.
(2) Actual/real speed.
(3) 75% of actual speed.
(4) 50% of actual speed.
(5) 25% of actual speed.


Results :

(1) Intensity of emotion increases with the decrease in visual speed.
(2) Intensity of emotion is maximum when visual speed is minimum (25%
of actual speed)

(3) The amount of chemical change associated with the emotion in the
body(blood) will be found to increase with the decrease in visual speed.

(4) The chemical change is maximum when visual speed is minimum.
(5) The amount of chemical change will increase with the decrease in
breathing rate. Breathing becomes so slow and non-rhythmic that it stops
for some time at the inhalation/ exhalation stages.

The above co-relations will be valid for all subjects -even for those who cannot feel pain/ grief. Such subjects will experience emotion associated with boredom/ discomfort/ restlessness/ irritability/ uneasiness. The chemicals released will be different but the co-relation between visual speed and amount of chemical will be same( the breathing rates will be different/ fast).
All subjects will experience some kind of emotion.

[If scientists can discover 4000 different chemicals in cigarette-smoke then they can certainly detect the few chemicals released in blood when we experience higher-level emotions like pain, empathy, compassion, remorse etc… ]


In the 2nd stage of experiment we shall replace the silent video film with a Narrator ( Audio only ) and repeat the procedure thereby establishing the link between intensity of emotion and verbal speed. The narrator will slow down verbal speed by-- speaking slowly, stretching words, repetition of words/ sentences & making use of
pause/ silence between words.

Please note:
(1) A THINKING MIND CANNOT INTENSIFY / SUSTAIN ANY EMOTION.
While this statement is generally true for all emotions, it is
particularly true for all painful emotions.

(2) In a society in which visual ( verbal ) speed and breathing- rates
are fast , pain / remorse / empathy cannot be experienced. It is
impossible.


PROOF.
Proof of the link between pain and slow visuals / words :-

In the last century man has made thousands of movies / films on various
themes / subjects. Whenever pain / tragedy is shown in any film the
visuals ( scenes ) and words ( dialogues ) are always slowed down. In
many films tragedy is shown in slow motion. At the most intense moment
of pain the films almost become static / stationary.

Tragedy-films provide direct proof / evidence of the link between pain
and slowness.

Pain can intensify / sustain only when visual ( and verbal ) speed slows
down( stops/ freezes).


CHANGE IN VISUAL SPEED OVER THE YEARS

One thousand years ago visuals would change only when man physically
moved himself to a new place or when other people ( animals / birds )
and objects ( clouds / water ) physically moved themselves before him.

Today man sits in front of TV / Computer and watches the rapidly
changing visuals / audio.

He sits in a vehicle ( car / train / bus ) and as it moves he watches
the rapidly changing visuals.

He turns the pages of a book / newspaper / magazine and sees many
visuals / text in a short span.


CHANGE IN VERBAL SPEED OVER THE YEARS

In ancient times verbal processing was “live” in nature—ie it happened when people actually spoke.
Today there is non-stop verbal processing inside the mind through print and electronic media ( newspapers, books, magazines, radio, television, computer etc…) as a result of which the verbal content & speed has increased thousands of times.

The speed of visuals ( and words ) has increased so much during the last
one hundred years that today the human brain has become incapable of
focussing on slow visuals /words through perception, memory, imagery.

If we cannot focus on slow visuals / words we cannot experience emotions associated with slow visuals /words.



Before the advent of Industrial Revolution Man's thinking was primarily
limited to :

(a) visual processing ( slow visuals )
(b) verbal / language processing ( slow words )

Today there are many kinds of fast thinking :

(1) visual processing ( fast visuals )
(2) verbal / language processing ( fast words )
(3) Scientific / Technical thinking ( fast )
(4) Industrial thinking ( fast )
(5) Business thinking ( fast )

(3), (4) & (5) ARE ASSOCIATED WITH NUMBERS / SYMBOLS / EQUATIONS /
GRAPHS /CIRCUITS / DIAGRAMS / MONEY / ACCOUNTING etc…

As long as the mind is doing this kind of thinking it cannot feel any
emotion - not an iota of emotion.

In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
In a thinking ( scientific / industrial ) society emotion itself becomes extinct.

EMOTION IS WHAT REMAINS IN THE MIND WHEN VISUAL /VERBAL PROCESSING SLOWS DOWN (STOPS/ FREEZES )



There are certain categories of people who feel more emotion (subjective experience ) than others.

If we attempt to understand why (and how ) they feel more emotion we can learn a lot about emotion.

Writers, poets, actors, painters ( and other artists )

WRITERS
Writers do verbal ( and associated visual) processing whole day- every day.
They do slow verbal ( and associated visual) processing every day.
(A novel that we read in 2 hours might have taken 2 years to write. This is also the reason why the reader can never feel the intensity & duration of emotion experienced by the writer )

POETS
Poets do verbal ( and associated visual ) processing whole day- every day.
There is more emotion in poetry than in prose.
This happens because there are very few words ( and associated visuals ) in poetry than in any other kind of writing.
There is a very high degree of freezing / slowing down of visuals & words in poetry.

ACTORS
Actors do verbal ( and associated visual ) processing whole day- every day. During shooting / rehearsal they repeat the dialogues ( words ) again and again ( the associated visuals / scenes also get repeated along with the dialogues )

PAINTERS
Painters do visual ( and associated verbal ) processing whole day- every day.
They do extremely slow visual processing - The visual on the canvas changes only when the painter adds to what already exists on the canvas.


There are some important points to be noted :

All these people do visual & verbal processing - whole day - every day.
They do slow visual & verbal processing.
They do not do scientific / industrial / business processing whole day - every day.

Most of the city people doing mental work either do this kind of mental processing which is associated with NUMBERS / SYMBOLS/ Equations / Graphs / CIRCUITS / DIAGRAMS / MONEY / ACCOUNTING etc… or they do fast visual ( verbal ) processing whole day - every day.

This kind of thinking ( processing ) has come into existence only during the last 200 years and has destroyed our emotional ability ( circuits ).



SELF-ASSESSMENT OF ( SUBJECTIVE ) INTENSITY OF EMOTION IS ALMOST ALWAYS WRONG.

Suppose the maximum intensity(and duration) of a particular emotion that
can be experienced by any human being is 100 units.

Let us suppose the maximum intensity(and duration) of that particular emotion ever
experienced by two people A & B in their entire life is :
A - 100units
B - 20 units

Now suppose A & B are made subjects on a particular day and are asked
to feel that particular emotion under experimental conditions ( or
outside the laboratory ) and the intensity &duration they actually experience is
:

A - 90 units
B - 18 units

If A &B are then asked to indicate the intensity &duration of emotion on a scale
of 0 -10 their response is likely to be ;

A - 9
B - 9

Who is right and who is wrong ?
A is right.
B is wrong - B is wrong by a wide margin - B has experienced an
intensity(and duration) of 18 units out of a maximum of 100 units and his correct /
actual score should be 1.8

Self- assessment ( self rating ) can be accurate only if people have
the capacity to experience the highest intensity &duration ( units ) of the
particular emotion under study.



Because of physical work and slow visual/verbal processing in small(slow)agriculture based societies of the past, the mind used to experience a state of emotion all the time. If we read one thousand-year-old literature we will not come across the term "boredom" -the concept of boredom did not exist in slow societies. There were long gaps between different visuals and between words/ sentences -and people had the ability to experience/ tolerate the gaps -it was normal for them.

Emotion can intensify / sustain only when visual / verbal processing slows down ( stops / freezes ). In an Industrial (thinking) society people experience very little emotion because of fast ( visual / verbal / scientific / industrial / business ) thinking

Suppose the maximum intensity and duration of a particular emotion ( for most people ) in a fast society has reduced to 5 units ( from 100 units that people used to experience in earlier /slower societies ).

If such people experience 4 units of emotion they will give themselves a
rating /score of 8 on a scale of 0-10 whereas their actual score should
be 0.4

IN A FAST SOCIETY SLOW EMOTIONS BECOME EXTINCT.



IQ Vs EQ

IQ always has an element of change in it – IQ is about trying to make/ discover/ invent something new all the time.
Change is an inherent feature of IQ.
IQ is also about thinking more in less time—it involves speeding up of mind. Someone who does more mathematics in less time is considered more intelligent in mathematics. IQ is about change and speed.

EQ is about sustainment of the same feeling/experience over a period of time. When we experience any higher-level emotion for 10 minutes we experience the same feeling( subjective experience) over and over again for 10 minutes.
The( same) feeling can sustain only if there is Repetition.
EQ involves Repetition—Constancy—Sameness.

IQ and EQ are contradictory.
IQ and EQ are opposites.
IQ and EQ are inversely proportional.



(1) A thinking species destroys the planet.
(2) Animals lived on earth for billions of years (in very large numbers)
without destroying nature.
(3) They did not destroy nature because their thinking / activity was
limited to searching for food for one time only.
(4) Man has existed on earth in large numbers for only a few thousand
years / a few hundred years.
(5) Within this short period Man has destroyed the environment.
(6) This destruction took place because of Man's thinking.
(7) When man thinks he makes things.
(8) When he makes things he kills animals / trees / air / water / land.
( Nothing can be made without killing these five elements of nature ).

(9) A thinking species destroys the planet.



MENTAL WORK IS INJURIOUS TO THE MIND AND PLANET.

There is no higher purpose behind work.

People do not work because they want to work.
People work because they cannot stop working.

People cannot stop physical activity and mental activity (simultaneously) for even 2 minutes.

For most people it is a choice between physical and mental work.
The switch-over from physical work to mental work is disastrous for the planet.

Man can do the same physical work every day.
Man cannot do the same mental work every day.

When man used to do physical work ( farming and related activities ) he could do the same repetitive work day after day- generation after generation.

After the Industrial Revolution when man switched-over to mental work he
began a never ending process of making new machines / things / products--
a process which can only end with the complete destruction of environment ( planet ).

The nature of mental work is such that man has to do new mental work every day- in fact he has to do new mental work every moment- Man cannot repeat in the next moment the mental work that he has already done in the previous moment.

A mathematician cannot solve the same problem of mathematics every day- once he has solved it he will be forced to take up a new( unsolved) problem. Even when he is solving one particular problem he has to move from one step to another - there is a continuous change involved -- there is no constancy at any stage.

An engineer cannot design the same machine again and again –once he has made a machine he will try to make changes/ design a new one.

A writer cannot write the same article every day- he will be forced to write something new every day/ every moment (This is also the reason behind endless discussions/ debates/ arguments).




Change is an inherent feature of mental work.

Since change is an inherent feature of mental work - a society that does mental work can never be at peace with itself – it is impossible.

A society that does mental work will always be restless.

Only those societies that do physical work [agriculture and related activities] can find contentment and peace.



AS LONG AS CITIES EXIST WE CAN NEITHER SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT NOR THE MIND.

To save the ( remaining ) environment from destruction man will have to
return back to physical work ( smaller communities ).

To save the mind from mental diseases man will have to return back to
physical work ( smaller communities ).




There was a time when Man knew nothing about the number of species and millions of species existed.
Today Man knows the names of millions of species and nothing is left of
the species.



It took millions of years for millions of species to slowly come into existence on earth - and man has decimated all other species.

After destroying millions of highly-developed species on earth Man is today searching for a few molecules of life in outer-space.

If a few microbes, a few molecules of methane / water are found on Mars - it becomes the newspaper headline.

They call it progress.



The following is about to come true.

Nature can exist

(1) before man.
(2) after man.
(3) not with man.


Environment can be saved only if we stop production of most [ more than
99% ] of the consumer goods we are making today.

ENVIRONMENT CANNOT BE SAVED BY RECYCLING

THE ATTEMPT OF AN INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT BY RECYCLING IS LIKE SHOOTING SOMEONE
10,000 TIMES AND THEN TRYING TO SAVE HIM BY TAKING OUT ONE BULLET.


Time is running out for this planet.
We are in the last 20 years.

 

[treble]

i was all for this for many years. I recall that they have been stating this for 30 years now. I recall when I was in school that we had all sorts of recycling and tree planting "education" back in the late 70's.

It took that long before the mainstream picked up on it. After all that time and ..and being convinced right up until the end of last year.

now I am not so sure. I am concerned it is just a way to tax everyone and not reduce the output of pollution. We need to NOT produce this stuff rather than just charge more. If you charge more then it just gets integrated into inflation and no one notices it after about 12 months.

Then we would be back to pumping out mega tonnes of this shit.

I think that because we and we alone have the ability to choose what we do, we can and should choose to produce less or move to carbon free solutions. Not for any other readon that because we are custodians of this planet .

I think its not going to happen and I don't think it can be seperated from the behaviors, activities and objectives of the neo-con/military industrial complex. Until they are gone I doubt it will change.

treb





treb

 

[NuggyBuds]

I don't buy it completely.
There is one large factor in climate change beyond our control...
THE SUN.

The earth is not the only planet in our solar system losing ice caps.

Mars Snow caps disapearing

Is the sun heating up

I don't doubt the heating on the planet but I think that all this furvour is an attemt to impose a global 'carbon' tax. which will be a stepping stone for further global taxes, (population tax, food tax) and global governance. Do we really want a global government?

I'm not saying we should not curb our energy use, I'n fact I think we should do MORE than what Al Gore says we should. But think for your self people. Don't listen to Mr. Gore, hell don't listen to me. find out for your self. One documentary is not the be all and end all of climate change.

 

[Guest]

Im with NuggyBuds on this one.

When Al Gore parks his private jet gets rid of his Limo and stops usind 10x more fuel to heat 1 of his homes in one month than I do in a year Ill start getting worried. In other words When AL Gore believes it... Ill believe it.

By the way we should already be dead from the last Global Scare.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

 

[Trichome Toker]

In the 1930s the majority of climatologists said we are headed for another ice age.

It never happened.

Regardless, most major environmental groups support black boxes in everyone's cars to tax you per mile that you drive.

That alone is enough for me to hate them.

 

[Yummybud]

meh, I'll just turn my airconditioner up if it gets to warm.

just kidding. I think our action will mess with nature and who knows what will happen. with all the gas we burn in cars , factories etc / other pollutants /chemicals we spill into the athmosphere it is sure to have an effect on the environment.

but looking at history we can also see that climate change has always occured even before we were here.

Africa used to be a tropical forest now most of those parts are dry grasslands. Ice age caused the extinction of the dinasaurs, then there was a period of global warming.

what can have a bigger impact on global warm or cooling is also natural even in themselves, like volanic exlposions etc effect the earth's climate. I'm not 100% sure but I think the ice age was caused by a meteor strike that blocked out the sun. Global warming in history has been caused by major volcanic expllsions that changed the climate

and then now people are adding other ingredients such as pollution which may we don't yet know 100% what all the consequences could be.

 

[Yummybud]

is this Al Gores movie?

watched him talk about his new movie yesterday about global warming.

interesting, politicians are in movies now, and movie stars are becoming politicians.

I want to see a movie starring George Bush, probably call it Curious George.

 

[Guest]

Cannabis: an environmentally and economically viable method for climate change mitigation (revised 2001)
By Marc Deeley

Abstract: This thesis examines the problem of global climate change, taking as its starting point the recommendations of both the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) (1992). It is argued that an approach which directly addresses the (scientific) causes of climate change via the application of biology and chemistry - termed an 'environmental approach' in this thesis - is better placed than conventional regulatory instruments (i.e. a carbon tax) to fulfill the objectives of the (1992) Convention. Moreover, it is argued that an environmental approach/method has the potential to address other (related) areas of environmental concern, such as the use of chemicals in agriculture and land degradation. Because such an approach would not entail the predominately negative economic effects of conventional regulatory instruments such as 'carbon taxation' it has the potential to be universally inclusive (through choice), extending global participation in the UNFCCC.

An environmental approach is therefore elaborated upon which centres on the specific use of Cannabis (in particular, the Sativa L. subspecies) as a multipurpose source of biomass and industrial feedstock for energy, agricultural and commodity applications. It is argued that the unique physiological and chemical characteristics of Cannabis make it ideally suited for such applications within the overall objective of climate change mitigation by addressing directly our industrial reliance on fossil fuels and several of the key land-use/management and consumption related causes of climate change. It is concluded that Cannabis cultivation and the industrial utilisation of this crop could be environmentally and economically viable as a method for addressing the problem of global climate change.

To download this document in Adobe Acrobat .pdf format:Click

Marc Deeley can be reached at [email protected]

 

[master shake]

i didnt watch all yet but Al Gore is a douche! fucker says we need to stop using so much energy but he alone uses 30x the amount average americans use!

 

[trichomefarmer]

arrrgh Al gore blah blah blah, what did he do when vice president.....?

lovely message too bad its delivered by a hypocrite.

Want to cut down on greenhouse gases and global warming? easy, stuff some politicians mouths with a grapefruit and seal it with duct tape. Then there will be a whole lot less useless hot air.
now there is a real eco-terrorist.

 

[Guest]

there all puppets my friends...just puppets used to confuse the masses into believing they are in control

 

[Guest]

Want to cut down on greenhouse gases and global warming? easy, stuff some politicians mouths with a grapefruit and seal it with duct tape. Then there will be a whole lot less useless hot air.

I think you may have given us a way to save the Planet my friendn Nice very nice. Ill get the duct tape

 

[trem0lo]

I don't buy it completely.
There is one large factor in climate change beyond our control...
THE SUN.

The earth is not the only planet in our solar system losing ice caps.

Mars Snow caps disapearing

Is the sun heating up

Man, you can't really argue with that. I'm all about energy conservation, but global warming is a big pile of political trash politicians push around to win votes. I have to believe there are bigger factors at work, like the sun and gravity.