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Getting over broad mites indoors...

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BakedBandit

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Been getting F'd in the A for a while by these guys. Way too long really. Got a room going 3 weeks into flower and I wanna be DONE with these guys! What's my best chance? Heat treatments? Bleach/iso spray everywhere? Gotta have no plants for a certain length of time and start over from seed? Kinda over trying to get clones from anywhere. I don't get down with hookers bare back so why would I take clones into a (hopefully going to be) clean room?
Thanks for your advice all, about at my wits end with this horseshit. Worst pest ever so far!

Been trying flying skulls nuke em recently, anybody else been down that route?
 
Cadfael

Cadfael

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Start with a good spraying regimen. Start with Spinosid twice a week for the first week.

I have been rotating Azamax, Spinosid, and Pytherum. Then it will take time as your plants heal.

Good luck.
 
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BakedBandit

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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm talking about after the run is over what is my best course of action to be clean going forward?
 
who dat is

who dat is

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I just sprang for a bunch of predator mites. I'm doing sprays in rotation using the essential oil blend form Build A Soil and Green Cleaner until the predators arrive and I can let them pick off any remaining survivors. I have what I think is Russet Mites though but I'm sure the same treatments take care of them that work for Broad Mites as well.
 
DONAJTHEIII

DONAJTHEIII

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BakedBandit said:
Been getting F'd in the A for a while by these guys. Way too long really. Got a room going 3 weeks into flower and I wanna be DONE with these guys! What's my best chance? Heat treatments? Bleach/iso spray everywhere? Gotta have no plants for a certain length of time and start over from seed? Kinda over trying to get clones from anywhere. I don't get down with hookers bare back so why would I take clones into a (hopefully going to be) clean room?
Thanks for your advice all, about at my wits end with this horseshit. Worst pest ever so far!

Been trying flying skulls nuke em recently, anybody else been down that route?
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Throw everything out right now. It sucks been there done that lost tons of genes.

dont flower it out throw it out and start from scratch dont waste anymore time. clean everything and dont bring in clones anymore


Havent brought it a clone in awhile and when I do its from one source who knows his shit.


HEAT HEAT HEAT every couple of days its the toxins they inject that mess up the girls.

shut down for a couple weeks to a month set up everything nice a clean. pop some seeds and get to veggin. once you have a nice mother take clones flower out for a couple weeks see how the mom does and kill her once you find out its female.


your new cuts will have enough time to get rid of the nasty stuff you hit the mom with.

Best of luck knock on wood been broadmite free for a year now.


couldnt figure out the problem for years. thanks to the mag and a a scope i finally did.



:)
 
Cadfael

Cadfael

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I mopped the whole place with a chlorine mixture, and did ok.

You can always kick up the temp after the plants are out. over 115 F if memory serves.

Then go with the above pest management cycle.
 
Coughie

Coughie

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It will take two or three orders of predatory mites, but they'll do it

A combination of quick release and slow release
And modify your environment for the predatory mite survival if you can

There's a lot more information in the link in tessarecting's signature.


And then bleach anything that you can - anything that doesnt come in contact with the plants - the floors, the walls, the cracks and crevices in the corners and edges..


And be careful - anything that kills a spider mite, essentially, will kill a predatory mite - neem, EOs, soaps, etc..
 
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Timm

if they are badly damaged might aswell throw them away and start again

if you need to keep any clones dip them in avid/forbid separately at 5 day intervals. heat treat empty room and start again. they are easy to get rid of if you know what you're doing. screw the organic methods waste of precous time ime.
 
who dat is

who dat is

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Coughie said:
It will take two or three orders of predatory mites, but they'll do it

A combination of quick release and slow release
And modify your environment for the predatory mite survival if you can

There's a lot more information in the link in tessarecting's signature.


And then bleach anything that you can - anything that doesnt come in contact with the plants - the floors, the walls, the cracks and crevices in the corners and edges..


And be careful - anything that kills a spider mite, essentially, will kill a predatory mite - neem, EOs, soaps, etc..
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Timm said:
if they are badly damaged might aswell throw them away and start again

if you need to keep any clones dip them in avid/forbid separately at 5 day intervals. heat treat empty room and start again. they are easy to get rid of if you know what you're doing. screw the organic methods waste of precous time ime.
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Mine have stabilized after foliar sprays using essential oils and the last one was green cleaner. I'm doing this on 3 day intervals and they seem to be responding well. I will continue to do this up until several days before the predators arrive and then I'll let them finish off any survivors.

This pic is from yesterday 7/7

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BakedBandit

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Thanks all. Gonna give it the last 4.5 weeks and see what I can salvage. I do have a couple strains I want To keep, but I also want to grow pest free, may have to let em go and start over from seed. Sounds like my bleach/Iso spray and mop combo along with heat treatment may work...
It's good and bad at this point. Have had amazing runs before, but the last couple years none were perfect and some have been down right terrible. Good to know that I think I've found the problem, bad to know its so difficult to erradicate. It gives me hope that I can get back to successful growing, I'd almost lost hope. I've read in the other threads some predators people have used, and think I may try to get some to release outside around the building to limit outdoor bugs from existing. Anybody have any types of bugs they like and a source they used to get them?
 
TnTLabs

TnTLabs

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yoooo...
i have dealt with a severe case some time ago as i didnt know what the F+++ was going on..
it took me nearly a year to find the cause then eradicate them!
Let me explain... my ethics were no chems for illnesses/pests, so i tried nearly everything in the book, when i first noticed them they were already all over the place crawling from pot to pot... this was like after 3 months of scratching my head trying to figure out what was wrong...i was loosing bud hairs.. that made be look very closely..
ok then i went and got some neem oil and sprayed every 3 days for like 2 weeks, combined with essential oils, it saved one harvest, although a quater ruffly turned into duds and the buds were useless... i didnt see them anymore, so i thought i had won... NOPE..
2months later just as im preparing to flip i spot them again...
So now i though ok, neem worked, let me spray again every 3 days and in the days in between water with Aptus Attack or what its called.. also with garlic extract and spinosad.. again i thought i was winning.. didnt see them.. again lost a bunch of plants as they lost their hairs and dudded.
enough was enough after researching i decided the only way was to nuke em with CONFIDOR, i had a bad feeling doing so BUT it worked... i gave them the highest dose, a week later the same.. i havent seen them in about 6 months, so i take it they are dead as Confidor is systematic and stays in the plant for over 100 days+, so even if i didnt catch some stray ones and they might have returned im sure they died after trying to eat some roots..
so all i can say is either get rid of everything, get exterminators in, start over with new soil and seeds and pray they dont return.. or use confidor and take cuts and veg them for 2 months before flowering...
 
Coughie

Coughie

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BakedBandit said:
I've read in the other threads some predators people have used, and think I may try to get some to release outside around the building to limit outdoor bugs from existing. Anybody have any types of bugs they like and a source they used to get them?
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You're better off hitting them hardest where you know they are at - in the grow. Establish a colony of predators and the pests can't come back.

Depends on your location, as to 'where' to get them,
You want fast shipping, a day or two to your door

But I had success with fast-release Amblyseius swirskii
Coupled with slow-release sachets of Amblyseius cucumeris

Two treatments, 4-6 weeks apart, and it solved my issue

I'm getting ready to order another round just because I like the insurance and it's so easy.. Not a bad price, where I get it from either..
 
RetroGrow

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Heat treatments will wipe them out completely, even in flower. No need to spray anything. 120 degrees for an hour will do it. A/C off, Fans off. Lights on, additional heat source to get temps to 118-120. Mites gone.
 
who dat is

who dat is

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Coughie said:
You're better off hitting them hardest where you know they are at - in the grow. Establish a colony of predators and the pests can't come back.

Depends on your location, as to 'where' to get them,
You want fast shipping, a day or two to your door

But I had success with fast-release Amblyseius swirskii
Coupled with slow-release sachets of Amblyseius cucumeris

Two treatments, 4-6 weeks apart, and it solved my issue

I'm getting ready to order another round just because I like the insurance and it's so easy.. Not a bad price, where I get it from either..
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Where do you source your mites from?
 
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BakedBandit

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Coughie said:
http://www.evergreengrowers.com/

These guys are in Oregon

There's some in CO, others on the east coast..
You'll want to find a reputable one close to you..

But those guys are awesome for the PNW area
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Thanks for the link. I've trashed anything that showed any symptoms and am hoping I can pull a decent harvest from what I've got left. Going to try some predators ASAP to help insure against any uprisings and the I'll do the best I can to heat treat and bleach everything before starting over. Trying to find a way to get and start some seeds off site
 
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