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Germany to legalize cannabis
- Thread starter Cuddles
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........... A step in the right direction!
.......... some good news for a change, let's see where this goes, and how far!
Budz Lightyear
Member
Legalisation vs Un-prohibited
Driving vs Walking.
One you can do with a licence, under certain conditions, if you can afford to jump through all the hoops. One you can do freely, restricted only by your own ability to do it.
I fear legalisation only puts our beloved plant in the hands of the real criminals and cartels.. If we look to how the U.S. is using licence fees to fund harder crackdowns on homegrowers even forcing medical users to buy their medicine not grow it.
We could just be sensible. It is a plant. Other, far more dangerous plants are not "illegal", mostly not even prohibited. Even highly toxic plants that would kill you if ingested even once - Unprohibited - grow them all in your garden. Why cant we just be sensible and move Cannabis into the same catagory as all other non-prohibited plants where it belongs. (?) It would be so easy to just say "From now on we're going to treat cannabis as we do with nettles, roses, deadly nghtshade, fox gloves, daffodils etc etc. Because thats what it is".
"Have you got time for a story?.. Decades ago, growers escaped to the hills and mountains to be free of the capitalist b.s and government fuckery to live a peaceful life enjoying this plant. Over time, Cannabis became its own master signifier within these communities - it was used as a currency, surpassing cash, as the highest grade weed was not worth selling for money as you would not be able to buy something of the same quality. Instead it was only really worth trading it for other very high grade weed and so it becomes the master signifer. Ppl also start trading it in lew of cash for goods and services. Sick people discover that it is curing their chronic illness and even saving their lives and healing terminal conditions, which no ammount of money or gold could do, so, for them, it becomes as valuable as life itself...
But, from a distance the monster watches. None of this sits well with the capitalist monster that they ran to the hills to escape from. It cant allow its one source of power, the master signifier of its game - money - to be superceeded or the game falls apart. How can they get weed back under the control of their designed master signifier and into the capitalist meat-grinder to feast on??.. "What about making it legal? That could work!. licences, branding, marketing, thats our stuff! ...we'll tell them they can be rich!! yes, we'll tell them they need us and our game,. give them shinies, they'll be too distracted by their own reflections..."
Now, you have the decendants of those same communities coming screaming down the mountain, cannibalizing their neighbours, as they whore their familes treasures for a small enough slice of the pie to get themselves a mortgage and some debt in the capitalist system of bondage their ancestors ran to get away from...
The End. "
Driving vs Walking.
One you can do with a licence, under certain conditions, if you can afford to jump through all the hoops. One you can do freely, restricted only by your own ability to do it.
I fear legalisation only puts our beloved plant in the hands of the real criminals and cartels.. If we look to how the U.S. is using licence fees to fund harder crackdowns on homegrowers even forcing medical users to buy their medicine not grow it.
We could just be sensible. It is a plant. Other, far more dangerous plants are not "illegal", mostly not even prohibited. Even highly toxic plants that would kill you if ingested even once - Unprohibited - grow them all in your garden. Why cant we just be sensible and move Cannabis into the same catagory as all other non-prohibited plants where it belongs. (?) It would be so easy to just say "From now on we're going to treat cannabis as we do with nettles, roses, deadly nghtshade, fox gloves, daffodils etc etc. Because thats what it is".
"Have you got time for a story?.. Decades ago, growers escaped to the hills and mountains to be free of the capitalist b.s and government fuckery to live a peaceful life enjoying this plant. Over time, Cannabis became its own master signifier within these communities - it was used as a currency, surpassing cash, as the highest grade weed was not worth selling for money as you would not be able to buy something of the same quality. Instead it was only really worth trading it for other very high grade weed and so it becomes the master signifer. Ppl also start trading it in lew of cash for goods and services. Sick people discover that it is curing their chronic illness and even saving their lives and healing terminal conditions, which no ammount of money or gold could do, so, for them, it becomes as valuable as life itself...
But, from a distance the monster watches. None of this sits well with the capitalist monster that they ran to the hills to escape from. It cant allow its one source of power, the master signifier of its game - money - to be superceeded or the game falls apart. How can they get weed back under the control of their designed master signifier and into the capitalist meat-grinder to feast on??.. "What about making it legal? That could work!. licences, branding, marketing, thats our stuff! ...we'll tell them they can be rich!! yes, we'll tell them they need us and our game,. give them shinies, they'll be too distracted by their own reflections..."
Now, you have the decendants of those same communities coming screaming down the mountain, cannibalizing their neighbours, as they whore their familes treasures for a small enough slice of the pie to get themselves a mortgage and some debt in the capitalist system of bondage their ancestors ran to get away from...
The End. "
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The bottom line for most of us homegrowers!
there will always be those that operate outside of societies expected rules; most of us do already in one manner or another. black market will disappear only when it is truly legal, and there is no profit to be made by selling it. taxes ensure that there will always be a profit to be had. grow on!
LetsGrowBud
New member
Been here in Germany for 7 years now and am excited to see where it goes. I dont want to be a corporate monster but a simple small top shelf grower. Lets see where this goes.
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
The glass is 1/2 full! As long as we are allowed to grow our own, unencumbered, isn't that what it is all about?
In Germany there are 2 ways to go.
Smaller one, direct to realize would be a decriminalization of cannabis use law-violations.
2nd longterm step the full move to a fully regulated license market with homegrow in discussion (not safe!) needs a vote of "Bundesrat", Germany has 16 states where they have to vote for the law after "Bundestag" votes for it first.
"Bundesrat" is actually not safe for yes, but this year we have a few state elections to go away from conservative CDU leading...
2023 is possible
Smaller one, direct to realize would be a decriminalization of cannabis use law-violations.
2nd longterm step the full move to a fully regulated license market with homegrow in discussion (not safe!) needs a vote of "Bundesrat", Germany has 16 states where they have to vote for the law after "Bundestag" votes for it first.
"Bundesrat" is actually not safe for yes, but this year we have a few state elections to go away from conservative CDU leading...
2023 is possible
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
Criminal activity will never be eradicated, never.
Cuddles
Well-known member
no, it won´t sadly. The irony is that the police were alarmed because of something totally different which had nothing to do with weed or drugs. It was just a big fight or something. they were not growers just drug dealers with illegal guns.
Budz Lightyear
Member
Ask Jungle Boys how legalisation is working out over there. Their store just got raided by feds, all stock taken.
All that nice money they've paid for licences etc, and all the tax.. Just funds for the feds to go after people even harder than when it was illegal.
End prohibition. We dont need legalisation we need cannabis to be unpprohibited like all other plants.
All that nice money they've paid for licences etc, and all the tax.. Just funds for the feds to go after people even harder than when it was illegal.
End prohibition. We dont need legalisation we need cannabis to be unpprohibited like all other plants.
Cuddles
Well-known member
Never Heard of These Guys. Which town in Germany are they in?
Budz Lightyear
Member
California.
Budz Lightyear
Member
Thats lucky, they only took all the money. Probably only left the stock so that they can come back again once its been turned into cash.
Cuddles
Well-known member
that´s not a raid, that´s just plain theft! AND it´s gonna f*ck up their accounts as well!
