Georgia Landrace Cannabis spontanea/ruderalis

[OakyJoe]

Hey Folks!

I just scored a pack of a Georgia Landrace from "Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic 1986"

Since i'm new to the Automatics/Ruderalis Gen its interessting for me to grow them out and see what we got

Any Infos further

I gemed 10 of the Seeds today... Also i will test some Outdoor early 2015

 

[Thule]

It depends, is this a wild or a cultivated strain? Color and size of the seeds? Small and dark might indicate a feral back ground.

 

[OakyJoe]

seeds are small and dark i don*t know the hemp history in this country, but i guess its a wild.

 

[vostok]

...Dubious Dude very Dubious ..and I thought I had a grasp on all cannabis things east of Berlin for the last 11 years ...lol

pics please and more background ...

 

[OakyJoe]

Typ: sativa ssp. spontanea
Origin & Year: Georgia, landrace SSR, 1986
Notes: Small, dark seeds, seed hemp, flower onset 67-70 days, intermediary type (THC + CBD)

Thats the Info I got...

 

[Thule]

Thats the Info I got...

When trying to germinate feral spontanea seeds alternating between warm and cold temperatures can give better results than constant warm conditions, so try that if nothing happens. With such old seeds I would do it that way from the beginning. Best of luck.

 

[Only Ornamental]

I've some of these too. As seedlings, they look like the Armenian landrace from User 'Forscher' .
It's only a tiny test run with the weak seeds I didn't wanted to store. The two seeds germinated well, though one stayed very small whereas the other one starts flowering at one month of age (under 14/10).
The Armenian seeds on the other hand are a pain to germinate, placing them in the fridge (during soaking!) for one night helps a bit, scuffing and H2O2 plus nitroprusside also contribute to a better germination rate, but still...
The Georgian variety is listed as C. sativa ssp. spontanea, indicating that it's feral/wild hemp. The variety is likely to be maintained in situ in Germany since 1986 by the IPK (maybe not grown every year).

@OakyJoe:
If you want to see if it's an 'automatic', grow them at 24/0.

 

[OakyJoe]

Thanks OO

 

[Rinse]

Are these sold online/from a seedbank?

 

[OakyJoe]

Not directly. its more a genetic research institut.

 

[purple_man]

high fambz is this from the VIR (vavilov institute of research) passed on the german dudes???

if so, could be highly interesting, on the other hand who knows, if you had to pay for it could also be a scam with bird/hempseeds and a nice "story" for marketing purposes...

blessss
ps.: any more info on the ipk germans would be nice, dankeschoen!

 

[Only Ornamental]

Nope, it's not from the VIR. Who collected and donated it to the IPK I do not know (no publicly accessible knowledge).
One does not have to pay for it and the IPK is a national institution (and one of the biggest, if not THE biggest, European gene banks too), certainly no scam and no 'nice story'.
Search for IPK Gatersleben.

 

[purple_man]

thx for the info bro! will do

blessss

 

[Only Ornamental]

Here's my Georgian landrace at day 36. Turned out as a male after 4 weeks under 14/10 from seed... the second very small one hasn't shown sex yet.
BTW, it's not visible on the pic but the plant stretches considerably and is maybe 20 cm tall and pretty lanky.

 

[Thule]

Here's my Georgian landrace at day 36. Turned out as a male after 4 weeks under 14/10 from seed... the second very small one hasn't shown sex yet.
BTW, it's not visible on the pic but the plant stretches considerably and is maybe 20 cm tall and pretty lanky.

He looks quite WLD at this point OO.

I'd be surprised if he retains that "indica" look till the end.. Thinking of those Astrakhan sativas posted on the forums. The map though, makes you wonder:

 

[Only Ornamental]

Wonder what? Astrakhan isn't that far away from Georgia, neither is Armenia... Apropos, Here a pic of the Armenian (collected by Froscher) and a Slovakian landrace (IPK) as comparison.
EDIT: Do you mean the close proximity to the WLD C. indica gene pool? Maybe it's even C. indica hemp or a mix?

I'd be surprised too if they kept the rather broad leaves. Not sure if I'll see the change, though, cause I'm growing them under flowering cycle from seed and in small pots. I'll give them a second shot outdoors hopefully next spring.

 

[Thule]

Wonder what?

The nearby Turkey and Iran are WLD indica territory, Iran more so being connected to Afganistan. Lots of hashplant cutivation on the other side of the Caspian sea as well. It makes me wonder if this Georgian stuff is some kind of a sativa/indica mix and even has the bt allele in there.

 

[Only Ornamental]

The nearby Turkey and Iran are WLD indica territory, Iran more so being connected to Afganistan. Lots of hashplant cutivation on the other side of the Caspian sea as well. It makes me wonder if this Georgian stuff is some kind of a sativa/indica mix and even has the bt allele in there.

According to a German thesis, it should be of the intermediate type (i.e. both B alleles) with 2-4% cannabinoid (CBD+THC) content.
I should receive, if everything goes well this time, some Turkish landraces in the weeks to come. They may be of the intermediate type too but Turkey also has a lot of common hemp (C. sativa L./Hillig).

 

[OakyJoe]

It depends, is this a wild or a cultivated strain? Color and size of the seeds? Small and dark might indicate a feral back ground.

As they a spontanea they a wild. cultivated ones would be subspecies culta

 

[purple_man]

@ornamental: if you recieve the turkish beans, please let us know what comes out of those...

had some legit turkish hasj import several years ago, and that shit was CRAZY POTENT, can't remember the last time i fell asleep halfway through the joint (well the turkish made it possible)

been discussing this with a kurdish friend at that time, and he told me always when he was in turkey he could only score some sativa like compressed crap, hence i wonder if there is a sativa, indica and ruderalis expression....

blessss