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George Soros’ real crusade: Legalizing marijuana in the U.S.

RetroGrow

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George Soros is pouring $80 Million into legalization efforts. I knew he was involved, but not to what extent.

"Billionaire philanthropist George Soros hopes the U.S. goes to pot, and he is using his money to drive it there.

With a cadre of like-minded, wealthy donors, Mr. Soros is dominating the pro-legalization side of the marijuana debate by funding grass-roots initiatives that begin in New York City and end up affecting local politics elsewhere.

Through a network of nonprofit groups, Mr. Soros has spent at least $80 million on the legalization effort since 1994, when he diverted a portion of his foundation's funds to organizations exploring alternative drug policies, according to tax filings.

His spending has been supplemented by Peter B. Lewis, the late chairman of Progressive Insurance Co. and an unabashed pot smoker who channeled more than $40 million to influence local debates, according to the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. The two billionaires' funding has been unmatched by anyone on the other side of the debate.

Mr. Soros makes his donations through the Drug Policy Alliance, a nonprofit he funds with roughly $4 million in annual contributions from his Foundation to Promote an Open Society.

Mr. Soros also donates annually to the American Civil Liberties Union, which in turn funds marijuana legalization efforts, and he has given periodically to the Marijuana Policy Project, which funds state ballot measures.

Lewis, who died in November, donated to legalization efforts in his name and through the ACLU and the Marijuana Policy Project, on which he served as the chairman of the board. Lewis' estate declined to comment for this article.

"The pro-legalization movement hasn't come from a groundswell of the people. A great deal of its funding and fraud has been perpetrated by George Soros and then promoted by celebrities," said John Walters, director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy under George W. Bush. "The truth is under attack, and it's an absolutely dangerous direction for this country to be going in."

Mr. Soros' Open Society Foundations have annual assets of more than $3.5 billion, a pool from which he can dole out grants to pet projects, according to 2011 tax returns, the most recent on file for his charitable organizations.

David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who often are cited for their conservative influence, had $308 million tied up in their foundation and institute in 2011.

Mr. Soros did not respond to a request to be interviewed.

'A question of when'

In his book "Soros on Soros: Staying Ahead of the Curve," he said the U.S. policy of criminalizing drug use rather than treating it as a medical problem is so ill-conceived that "the remedy is often worse than the disease."

Although Mr. Soros didn't outline an alternative in his book, he wrote that he could imagine legalizing some of the less-harmful drugs and directing the money saved from the criminal justice system to treatment.

"Like many parents and grandparents, I am worried about young people getting into trouble with marijuana and other drugs. The best solution, however, is honest and effective drug education," Mr. Soros said in a 2010 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal. "Legalizing marijuana may make it easier for adults to buy marijuana, but it can hardly make it any more accessible to young people. I'd much rather invest in effective education than ineffective arrest and incarceration."

The Drug Policy Alliance stands firmly behind Mr. Soros' position.

"Drug use, the use of any substance, is a health issue and we shouldn't be throwing people in jail for health issues," said Bill Piper, the alliance's director of national affairs in Washington. "The No. 1 reason why people with substance abuse disorders don't seek help is because they're afraid of getting arrested.

"From a constitutional and legal perspective, states can legalize marijuana if they want, and there's nothing the federal government can do," he said. "State after state decided to end the prohibition of alcohol and forced the federal government to change federal law.

"What we're going to see over next decade is states repel marijuana prohibition and then the federal government following suit. It's not a question of whether it's going to happen; it's a question of when."

Drug Policy Alliance Executive Director Ethan Nadelmann said in an email that funding levels from Mr. Soros "have bounced around a bit over the years but it's roughly $4 million per year (i.e., 1/3) of DPA's general operating budget."

"Other funding comes from other wealthy individuals (including quite a number who agree with Soros on little apart from drug policy), foundations and about 25,000 people making smaller contributions through the mail and Internet," Mr. Nadelmann said in the email.

Mr. Soros and Lewis, with help from the Drug Policy Alliance and Marijuana Policy Project, helped 2012 ballot initiatives that legalized the recreational use of marijuana in Washington state and Colorado. Federal law still outlaws possession, use, sale and distribution of the drug.

Mr. Soros, Lewis and their various nonprofits provided 68 percent of the funding that went to New Approach to Washington, the group that mobilized signatures to get the initiative on the state ballot and then promoted it.

The Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol, a grass-roots group that supported pot legalization in Colorado, was established by the Marijuana Policy Project and was 67 percent funded by nonprofits associated with the two billionaires. The campaign then bankrolled Moms and Dads for Marijuana Regulation, a seemingly unassociated group of pro-legalization parents that in reality consisted of only a billboard and a press release, according to state election records.

"The other side has so much money, it's incredible, and the bulk of it is coming from a handful of people who want to change public policy," said Calvina Fay, executive director of Save Our Society From Drugs, whose organization was the largest donor to Smart Colorado, the initiative opposed to legalization.

"When we look at what we've been able to raise in other states, they raise millions. We're lucky if we can raise $100,000. It's been a process of basically brainwashing the public. They run ads, put up billboards, get high-profile celebrity support and glowing media coverage. If you can repeat a lie often enough, the people believe," Ms. Fay said.

Other states line up

Mason Tvert, co-director and spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project's Colorado campaign, disagrees.

"There simply is no grass-roots support for maintaining marijuana prohibition," he said. "Anyone who suggests otherwise is just not paying attention. They're railing against a public policy that most Americans support."

Mr. Tvert said the Marijuana Policy Project collected no money from Mr. Soros or Lewis for the 2012 initiative.

"Not that we would turn away Mr. Soros' money in the future," he said. "There are countless people that want to make marijuana legal, but only so many people who can afford to make it possible."

Those people are turning out to make the 2014 election cycle look much like the 2012 cycle in Colorado and Washington, state election records show.

• In Alaska, the grass-roots Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol has emerged with the help of funding from the Marijuana Policy Project, which gave the campaign its first big contribution of $210,000.

If history repeats itself, then a few months before the election in Alaska, the Drug Policy Action group, the political arm of Mr. Soros' Drug Policy Alliance, will start contributing hundreds of thousands of dollars to help fund a media blitz and drive voters to polls to help support the measure.

• In Oregon, New Approach Oregon has collected enough signatures to get a legalization initiative on the ballot and has cashed its first checks: $96,000 from Lewis before he died last year and $50,000 from Mr. Soros' Drug Policy Alliance, according to state election records.

• In Florida, Mr. Soros has teamed up with multimillionaire and Democratic fundraiser John Morgan to donate more than 80 percent of the money to get medical marijuana legalization on the ballot through its initiative "United for Care, People United for Medical Marijuana."

Calls to Tim Morgan, John Morgan's brother who is handling press inquiries, were not returned.

The Marijuana Policy Project and Mr. Soros' Drug Policy Alliance aim to support full legalization measures in 2016 in Arizona and California — where they have funded and won ballot initiatives for medical marijuana use — and in Massachusetts, Maine, Montana and Nevada, Mr. Tvert said.

The Marijuana Policy Project also is "focusing a lot of time and resources passing bills" in Delaware, Hawaii, Maryland, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Vermont, where it considers legalized marijuana to be a realistic prospect in the next few years, he said.

'Phony propaganda'

Mr. Soros also is putting money into studies that show economic benefits from marijuana legalization.

In Colorado, the Drug Policy Alliance helped bankroll the Colorado Center on Law and Policy's study that found marijuana legalization could generate as much as $100 million in state revenue after five years. That research was widely considered to have influenced the election.

The ACLU also has penned studies supporting legalization, and the Marijuana Policy Project commonly cites these and Drug Policy Alliance research to argue its case for legal marijuana.

Calls and emails to ACLU headquarters in New York were not returned, but its website says that "removing criminal penalties for marijuana offenses will reduce the U.S. prison population and more effectively protect the public and promote public health."

Last year, Mr. Soros, via donations from his Open Society Foundation and the Drug Policy Alliance, helped fund Uruguay's effort to become the first country to legalize the commercialization of pot. He also offered to pay for a study to evaluate the ramifications of the experimental legislation, which he has said will reduce overall drug use and help fight illegal drug trade, according to news reports.

"There are addictive, harmful effects of smoking marijuana," said Mr. Walters, citing studies by the federal government and organizations such as the American Medical Association. "The silliness of pop culture is pretending this isn't a serious problem. Their entire message is built on phony propaganda that has been far too successful in the mainstream media."

The Drug Enforcement Administration agrees, despite President Obama's proclamations that marijuana is no worse than alcohol.

In the official "DEA Position on Marijuana" paper last April, the agency said marijuana has a "high potential for abuse, [and] has no accepted medicinal value in treatment in the U.S." It also cited that "a few wealthy businessmen — not broad grassroots support — started and sustain the 'medical' marijuana and drug legalization movements in the U.S. Without their money and influence, the drug legalization movement would shrivel."

Even Mr. Obama's drug czar said the legalization of marijuana is dangerous.

"Young people are getting the wrong message from the medical marijuana legalization campaign," drug czar Gil Kerlikowske said in December. "If it's continued to be talked about as a benign substance that has no ill effects, we're doing a great disservice to young people by giving them that message."

But the message is being propagated by Mr. Soros and groups of his supporters who have created their own nonprofits and political action committees. Although these organizations appear on the surface to have no affiliation, closer examination shows all are linked through their personnel and cross-promotion.

Drug Policy Alliance President Ira Glasser is a former executive director of the ACLU. Marijuana Policy Project co-founders Rob Kampia, Chuck Thomas and Mike Kirshner originally worked at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, which hosts industry conferences attended and promoted by Drug Policy Alliance staff, and has a political action committee that donates to marijuana advocacy candidates.

The Marijuana Policy Project's co-founders also frequently speak at events sponsored by the Drug Policy Alliance. The National Cannabis Industry Association — known as the chamber of commerce for marijuana — was co-founded by Aaron Smith, who previously worked at Safe Access Now, another Soros-backed nonprofit that promotes the legalization of pot.

After 20 years trying to influence policy, Mr. Soros' army is winning the marijuana debate. Last year, for the first time in four decades of polling, the Pew Research Center found that more than half of Americans support legalizing marijuana, compared with 30 percent in 2000. Lawmakers are following suit, with an unprecedented number of legalization bills brought to the floors of state legislatures.

"It's only a matter of time before marijuana is legalized under federal law," said Tom Angell, founder and chairman of the Marijuana Majority, an advocacy group based in Washington, D.C. "We now have 20 states plus the District of Columbia with medical marijuana laws, two states have already legalized it for all adults over the age of 21 — politicians will have to follow the will of the people on this."

Or follow Mr. Soros' money. Mr. Angell's group is funded, in part, by a grant from the Drug Policy Alliance.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...oros-turns-cash-into-legalized/#ixzz2xuQ6z8mx

Notice the DEA's response. They just continue to straight out lie. Not even a wisp of truth to anything they said. Their credibility is zero.
 

Slim Pickens

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Not looking for a conspiracy here,but...insanely rich people don't normally invest their money in issues that are "right".They invest in issues that they can profit from.

So.I always wonder what the "hook" is when somebody that is filthy rich invests in an issue like this.Somehow,somewhere,there is profit,and the rich are going to get it all (or the majority) of it.

I hope I am wrong...but I doubt it.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Yup. Big monetary gains to be had - especially if the public happily accepts a half measure that ends up granting control of the market to a few people.

No half measures.

This plant has the potential to revolutionize everything if we allow it to.

Canada we can grow hemp but farmers aren't allowed to produce seeds and are forced to buy them through government mandated sources.

Also costs a lot for a license. Where does the money for that license end up going ultimately? To pay down debts that shouldn't even exist in the first place.

It's a big game to keep us under thumb.
 

Jhhnn

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The accusation that legalization has been astroturfed is totally scurrilous, usual behavior for the rag in question. The Washington Times is the mouthpiece of the Unification Church & the now deceased Rev Moon, a rightwing rag. Their spin is utterly dishonest, considering that the Rev has spent well over $1.7B to keep the propaganda flowing-

The Washington Times has lost money every year that it has been in business. By 2002, the Unification Church had spent about $1.7 billion subsidizing the Times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times

America's right wing has an enormous number of billionaire financed propaganda organs, astoturfing the Tea Party & other "conservative" (read "authoritarian") causes since the 70's, often putting their little mind bending turdlets in a "Libertarian" wrapper before tossing them out into the public realm.

The rest? Thank you, Mr Soros. Your help is much appreciated.
 

oldchuck

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The Washington Times is a completely unreliable source. I wouldn't believe anything they publish unless it was verified by at least two other sources.
 

lost in a sea

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George soros is very very famous and very very evil. So evil..

He famously shorted the pound on black wednesday.

Given half a chance he will shaft you all and make billions.. The guy's bigger than countries in terms of wealth and power..

One of those devils like kissinger that makes soft brained "conspiracy" haters get cognitive dissonance..

He is just such an evil shit it's untrue.. A destroyer of worlds..
 

oldchuck

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You might consider that some of those millions he made shorting the pound are now going into the legalization movement. Do I care if Soros rolled the British government? Not much.
 

lost in a sea

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I don't give a shit about the money "going into the legalization movement",, lol such a stupid comment,, your missing my point, He is an internationalist that screws nations and gets away with it over and over again. The shorting of the pound in 92 is one of a long line of things this man has done, if you don't know then your opinion is worth peanuts.

I'm British and do i care at all that he did that? not at all, it's not exactly new for us here to get fucked by a billionaire.. Do i think everything he does is out to fuck the common voter, yes i most certainly do..

You guy's really will get what you deserve for being quite so ignorant of who it is "fighting" for legalization.. wise up..
 

Bud Green

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lost in a sea is right.
George Soros is NOT putting up millions of dollars to help "pot heads" and tokers around the world...
He is NOT doing it to keep teenagers from going to prison for possessing a bag of weed.
George Soros is intelligent, rich, and has evil motives. He wants a one world government and he wants himself, his cronies, and his heirs
to be the boss of you, your children and your grandchildren..
 

Jhhnn

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George soros is very very famous and very very evil. So evil..

He famously shorted the pound on black wednesday.

Given half a chance he will shaft you all and make billions.. The guy's bigger than countries in terms of wealth and power..

One of those devils like kissinger that makes soft brained "conspiracy" haters get cognitive dissonance..

He is just such an evil shit it's untrue.. A destroyer of worlds..

Black wednesday wasn't a thing of Soros' making. The Pound was hopelessly over valued, the result of unrealistic attempts to prop up its value. It was money laying in the street, and Soros (among others) spotted it & picked it up. Better him than a lot of others.

Soros supports a variety of pro-democracy & humanitarian causes around the world-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

http://www.georgesoros.com/

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle---koch-brothers.html

If more billionaires were more like him, the world would be a better place.
 

Jhhnn

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lost in a sea is right.
George Soros is NOT putting up millions of dollars to help "pot heads" and tokers around the world...
He is NOT doing it to keep teenagers from going to prison for possessing a bag of weed.
George Soros is intelligent, rich, and has evil motives. He wants a one world government and he wants himself, his cronies, and his heirs
to be the boss of you, your children and your grandchildren..

So why does he support pro-democracy efforts world wide?
 

Bulldog420

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This is one of the most evil people on the planet. Anybody that is for Gorge Soros is an enemy of the United States and many other countries in which he has overthrown their currency's. Gorge is worse than Monsanto.

Jnnnn - re-read Bud Green Sr.'s post for answer.
 

Bud Green

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So why does he support pro-democracy efforts world wide?



Don't believe for one minute that Soros does this out of the goodness of his heart.

Soros does this to attempt to wrestle the support of the people out of the grip of dictator, war lord and despot leaders of nations in order to gain the control of them for himself and his heirs. By setting the people free from their current oppressors, he garners the peoples support and appreciation, and sets HIMSELF up to become the "New and Improved" despot leader who make the rules, thereby increasing his own power and wealth. The history books are full of examples of this happening throughout the ages.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

George Soros sees a potentially HUGE base of support for himself by getting in on the Marijuana issue..

Be careful of believing promises strangers make, that the rational side of your brain knows are too good to be true..<o:p></o:p>
 
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Scottish Research

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Yeah, hate to burst your bubble, but guys like him typically only have one motivation. Or, maybe, he smoked some fire chron and got hooked.
 

HidingInTheHaze

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You don't amass that type of wealth by accident. For there to be a winner there has to be a line of losers.

These type of guys don't play to lose.
 

vancityj

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Why I Support Legal Marijuana

George Soros | The Wall Street Journal | October 26, 2010

Our marijuana laws are clearly doing more harm than good. The criminalization of marijuana did not prevent marijuana from becoming the most widely used illegal substance in the United States and many other countries. But it did result in extensive costs and negative consequences.

Law enforcement agencies today spend many billions of taxpayer dollars annually trying to enforce this unenforceable prohibition. The roughly 750,000 arrests they make each year for possession of small amounts of marijuana represent more than 40% of all drug arrests.

Regulating and taxing marijuana would simultaneously save taxpayers billions of dollars in enforcement and incarceration costs, while providing many billions of dollars in revenue annually. It also would reduce the crime, violence and corruption associated with drug markets, and the violations of civil liberties and human rights that occur when large numbers of otherwise law-abiding citizens are subject to arrest. Police could focus on serious crime instead.

The racial inequities that are part and parcel of marijuana enforcement policies cannot be ignored. African-Americans are no more likely than other Americans to use marijuana but they are three, five or even 10 times more likely—depending on the city—to be arrested for possessing marijuana. I agree with Alice Huffman, president of the California NAACP, when she says that being caught up in the criminal justice system does more harm to young people than marijuana itself. Giving millions of young Americans a permanent drug arrest record that may follow them for life serves no one's interests.

Racial prejudice also helps explain the origins of marijuana prohibition. When California and other U.S. states first decided (between 1915 and 1933) to criminalize marijuana, the principal motivations were not grounded in science or public health but rather in prejudice and discrimination against immigrants from Mexico who reputedly smoked the "killer weed."

Who most benefits from keeping marijuana illegal? The greatest beneficiaries are the major criminal organizations in Mexico and elsewhere that earn billions of dollars annually from this illicit trade—and who would rapidly lose their competitive advantage if marijuana were a legal commodity. Some claim that they would only move into other illicit enterprises, but they are more likely to be weakened by being deprived of the easy profits they can earn with marijuana.

This was just one reason the Latin American Commission on Drugs and Democracy—chaired by three distinguished former presidents, Fernando Henrique Cardoso of Brazil, César Gaviria of Colombia and Ernesto Zedillo of Mexico—included marijuana decriminalization among their recommendations for reforming drug policies in the Americas.

Like many parents and grandparents, I am worried about young people getting into trouble with marijuana and other drugs. The best solution, however, is honest and effective drug education. One survey after another indicates that teenagers have better access than most adults to marijuana—and often other drugs as well—and find it easier to buy marijuana than alcohol. Legalizing marijuana may make it easier for adults to buy marijuana, but it can hardly make it any more accessible to young people. I'd much rather invest in effective education than ineffective arrest and incarceration.

California's Proposition 19, which would legalize the recreational use and small-scale cultivation of marijuana, wouldn't solve all the problems connected with the drug. But it would represent a major step forward, and its deficiencies can be corrected on the basis of experience. Just as the process of repealing national alcohol prohibition began with individual states repealing their own prohibition laws, so individual states must now take the initiative with respect to repealing marijuana prohibition laws. And just as California provided national leadership in 1996 by becoming the first state to legalize the medical use of marijuana, so it has an opportunity once again to lead the nation.

In many respects, of course, Proposition 19 already is a winner no matter what happens on Election Day. The mere fact of its being on the ballot has elevated and legitimized public discourse about marijuana and marijuana policy in ways I could not have imagined a year ago.

These are the reasons I have decided to support Proposition 19 and invite others to do so.


Source: The Wall Street Journal

http://www.georgesoros.com/articles-essays/entry/why_i_support_legal_marijuana/
 

Daub Marley

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Jesus Christ!!! George Soros shows up like a fucking white knight literally almost single handily funding the complete legalization effort and you guy's have the nerve to call him evil? He made money in the free market and did so legally. I don't care if he completely monopolizes the industry because it would still be 10x better than it is now. Stop your ungrateful hippie bullshit and respect that he has taken his own person money and is now making pretty much all of your lives better with it.
 

jayjayfrank

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he is not bank rolling legalization efforts hes BANKING ROLLING HIS OWN BILLS AND POLICY

if he cared about 'legalization' like is claimed then how come jack herer could never get any proper funding?

because the guy is only bank rolling his own shit.

people make the mistake that "oh Drug Policy Alliance for America they must be great people"

so great? then why arn't they in cali in 2014 but jack herer act is?

its not like this soros guy has a big pot of money he hand out to potheads. no. its a big pot of money and if you support his policy you get money, simple. this is why ACLU and DPA are getting bank rolled in 2016 and why they didnt do shit in 2014, no soros money.


EDIT: See TPP for why billionaires 'support democracy'
 

Bud Green

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Jesus Christ!!! George Soros shows up like a fucking white knight literally almost single handily funding the complete legalization effort and you guy's have the nerve to call him evil? He made money in the free market and did so legally. I don't care if he completely monopolizes the industry because it would still be 10x better than it is now. Stop your ungrateful hippie bullshit and respect that he has taken his own person money and is now making pretty much all of your lives better with it.

Sorry Daub, but you shouldn't have dropped out of high school last year...

I mean, really, you "wouldn't care if he completely monopolizes the industry because it would still be 10x better than it is now...??

George Soros a "white knight"?!?.........I don't know what you've been smoking, but I sure don't want any of it...
 
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