Garage's and Such in the Winter ?

[Centrum]

During the winter how do you make a garage or room above a garage work for you without having to add heaters ?

I have a secret type room above my garage that i thought was a closet untill i found the light switch and here its a 8 x 20 x 20 room. I insulated the the floor above the garage and the entire 20 x 20 room.
If i leave the door cracked the room will remain the same temperature as the house but if i close the door the room gets chilly.

So for those of you who are growing in your garage's im just wondering if you have some techniques or tricks that work for a successful winter grow.

I was thinking of dividing the room so that the veg area and flower area would always be able to heat each other from maybe the lamps and ballasts during the dark hours.

Thanks

 

[Core]

maybe a small gasheater with butane or somethun ...it also produces Co2.....

 

[sogman]

yeah the room has lower pressure then rest of the house all that warm air wants to trickle in ther right? hmm maybe heating roots definetly, a heating pad under an ebbflow table would be tricky cause when the pumps off the aquarium heater would dry all the artificial media up.

I dunno but winter is definetly a threat to plants not properly shielded by a good framer, a good insulator, a good drywaller and a good taper.

I have a really nice spot under my stairs but it's pretty cold thers air heating tube overhead, I've been wondering If I could run a small feed of heat into the room. Would be quite nice. The rooms like a block of cheese under the stairs, 3x10x10.

 

[sogman]

Yeah core is a very wise man, CO2 to boot!
I'm not sure if propane creates more CO2 than butane, I know it will be more efficient though. I'm to afraid to possibly burn somebody elses house so I might make a feed into the room instead lol.

 

[Guest]

i dunno if u can get these where u are but they definately keep the chills out and are small
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0521417.htm

 

[sogman]

WHoa I really like that hazy thats nice and small and tactile and you could even attach a feed to the end easily. Thats about the best option without concerning CO2.

 

[vonforne]

You could also cycle your lights within the room. You could draw air in, much like the air conditioning in the summer. Just pipe it in. Put it on a fan and timer. Time how long it takes for the temp to drop with lights off and set the timer at that temp that you want to be your low. Kind of oppisite or the exhaust cycle. you will have to get a humidifier. The cold kicks out some dry ass air.

 

[Guest]

If you dont have any light leaks, then run your lights at night to help with heating during the coldest hours, and the normal daytime heating will help keep the cost down during plants dark period.

 

[Centrum]

Ill experiment with the lights and tempatures and see what happens.
Im not up for adding a heater even last resort.
This is just an extra room to play around with.
Thanks for your responses.

 

[Tunefull]

Hello Centrum/all

Mmm i have my veg area out shed(Not such a prob when it is really cold i can go for a longer light cycle)
Intime(next year)i be building a shed(to replace my wodden one)
And both my grows be out there..So going to have to think how to keep the flower area warm ish with no lights on.....

I plan on building a simple breezeblock shed....
With my two grow rooms built within....
I Would like to insolate the walls(of the whole shed(or just the grow room?)With some sort of boards(insolating)


Also someone mentioned these words....

....framer, a good insulator, a good drywaller and a good taper

Is a dry waller somit i insolate the walls with?
I hope it aint the stuff u put between caviteis,Cos my brick shed will only be single brinck(if u see what i mean)


Mmm as for the here and now
In my veg chamber it gets really cold(even with lights on)
What i done last winter was Add some extra ducting to my exhuast fan...In the hope it would not take the heat out so fast.....


Is there tho a type of Exhaust fan u can put on diff settttings?
So in summer u whack it on full suck

Then in winter u can set it to not so much suck....

Are there fans like this?

 

[sogman]

Heh Yes thats quite right tunefull, drywall is for insulation purposes.

 

[Tunefull]

JJS
Mmm that is clever(regaridng the dimmer switch)
I will need to read up on how to do the eltrics with that(but got a few months)
As long as i know that it is a option....They must do them with the sswitch built in tho by now ?



Sogman
So the Drywall thing goes on the wall on the inside?
Do i have to then put plywood or plasterboard or somit over the drywall?


Also does this drywall help keep things cool in the summer?(aswell as warmer in the winter)

 

[Centrum]

I might try to grab some scraps while im at work( New residential construction) and rework my ducting thats running through a Cubby hole/Kneewall next to the secret room.
The buckeye state gets into the single digits sometimes in winter.

I have a heat run and central air register on both sides of the cubby spaces , so if it gets to hot in the summer i could use the central air and if i tap into the heat duct i should be okay for the winter.

take it easy

 

[vonforne]

For drywall go to lowes and get their damaged sheets. Where I'm at I get them for 2.00 instead of 12.00. No they are not insolators. But they are fire rated. which means that they will retard a fire for so long before penetration. I would use at least a 5/8 inch sheet where you are at. Get the white board and just tape and finish. it will seal all of the cracks and leaks. If you work construction you could collect all the heating and cooling hardware on the jobsite. Make sure you get some 2x4's and things also for dead wood nailers. Screws, tape, joint compound and masking tape. Then you are ready to do a stoners building project.

 

[sogman]

Yeah good point von drywall is not an insulator it is a fire guard.
Sheetrock can take 20 minutes of constant flame before giving out.
Yeah I used to be a framer and a few other kinds of tradesmen before that.
Trades are overrated and the money goes to the welders lol. 70 an hour

 

[Dan42nepa]

I live in the NE... Temps here are already 30 degrees some mornings.. So far my office closet stays steady at mid 70's with lights on and heat off. This summer will be a different story as it will easily reach 90's. I will either have to go outside or in the basement which I chose not to do because of the dampness.

 

[sogman]

dont go mold
start making baskets and put those suckers up in the trees