Fruit in your soil?

[Revegged_Clone]

Anyone here put fruit into your soil? I don't mean for composting, i mean... raw, macerated fruit around your plant? I have a friend that does this, and he is a pretty well accomplished organic farmer(almost makes me wanna become vegetarian! almost) but i dunno... wouldn't it be exposing the plant to larvae and root rot?

for pot he always uses bananas. high in potassium and other goodies, but... i dunno... it's not something i'd do to my plants.

He actually has soil mixes that include certain fruit mixed right in.

whacha guys think/do?

 

[TrustNoOne]

give me miracle grow anyday. lol

 

[Guest]

You're friend has the right idea but the wrong method (IMHO).

It sounds as though what you're after is the goodness released by fruits (sugar, carbon, nitrogen, etc).... which is called 'composting'. However, putting rotting fruit into your soil is a bad move due to the bugs, fungus, disease, smell it brings to the dinner table for your ladies. Hell, just look at what a piece of fruit sitting out on your porch will bring you...lots of little friends and a wonderful aroma

If you're looking to give em another boost take your fruit, grass clippings, sawdust and shredded paper and pile em up in the backyard... if the compost is 'managed' like I do, I get use-able fertile compost within 4 weeks. If you dont wanna deal with management it can take years depending on what you put in there.

This should also probably be moved to the organic forum....

 

[Revegged_Clone]

i do use composted fruit, i mean, come on, it's basically baby food for our girls(although due to lack of a yard i'm not currently making my own, hate the fact that i'm contributing waste for the dump ). i was just asking about what my friend does.

i was thinking.... i remember some people added juices to their flushing period, supposedly got flavors(don't remember who it was or how the experiment ended, anyone remember the thread from og?). I am curious as to what a REALLY ripe banana will do... i mean... it's incredibly rich in simple sugars(and i believe complex starches too), and when mashed makes a nice watery pulp that can be added to whater...

when i finally start my next grow imma try it just the last few two weeks to see if i notice any aroma difference. just think... making a smoothie doobie!!!

hmm get a nice blueberry tasting strain, throw some strawberries and bananas in the waterings, got yourself a nice tasting snack, hehe.

i wonder if the roots will actually uptake flavor compounds...
Wait, i have a friend that works as a flavorist at a local beverage plant and has access to pure flavors! anyone thinking mentholated weed? hahahahahhahahahhahhahahahahahahahahhahahah

 

[TrustNoOne]

the bugs will love ya at least, lol.

 

[BudgetBud]

I was pondering this recently due to my urge to grow cheaply.
I like the idea of maybe blending fruit/veges with water and applying vigorously. But it would most probably attract bugs.
Is there anyone actually doing this?

 

[Guest]

I agree this should be in the organic forum but, I believe the folks in OFC have been talking about this. In particularly Vonforne. Maybe he'll see this and jump in. I have been meaning to check as this is something I'm interested in. So now, if I can control my stoner memory, I'll go check.

 

[Revegged_Clone]

ok, but about the new question in my previous post?

will a plant uptake pure flavor compounds? my reasoning says yeah, i mean... if it's there it'll pick it up, but will the flavor compounds be present in a final product? maybe if i dehydrate the plant and also put a dessicant in the chamber to encourage uptake of flavor compounds into the buds on the last day before harvest?

i'm really interested in this now... and no, not to full people into thinking i got some super genetics, just... it seems like acool thing. also... imagine if we could make "stealth" mj that smells like something else if you just get a whiff of it?

"what's that officer? no n, that's just my cherry pine tree...."

although that question should probly go in advanced techniques...

imma discuss it with my friend and try to convince him to swipe some compounds from work to start a discussion thread...

 

[Pops]

If the fruit works, maybe you can put dead animals in your soil to get Road Kill Skunk!

 

[Revegged_Clone]

the taste/smell isn't with fruits, read correctly man..

it's with flavour compounds. the things flavorists use...

 

[floroscroger]

If flavor and smell transfered from the soil, all my weed would taste and smell like shit.

 

[Revegged_Clone]

hahahahaha, but remember, these are chemical compounds that i have an inkling won't be processed by the plants. then again.. these are chemical compouds that won't be processed by the plants, hence hindering burning quality... hmmm

 

[Space Ghost]

plants can't uptake large complex molecules, mostly just simple ions. The root hairs uptake minerals via the apoplastic or simplastic routs, that is through or between the cells. There is no way a plant could handle molecules that big. However if you planted fruit plants in the same medium as a mj plant and the mj plant's roots started tapping into the fruit plants roots and sucked on its juices, it might work. and that's a big might...

 

[Revegged_Clone]

good to know...

damn, i thought that would be the case at least my friend still hasn't taken the good from the plant. oh well, they can still be used to make awesome munchies!

ooooooooor.... flavored green dragon!

off to buy everclear and get some shake!

i might try the other thing you said with some guava trees my dad has on his terrain.... although i must admit, the second i mentioned flavour compounds this kinda went over my head, haha.

 

[WoOlYBLuNtS~]

interesting theory...keep us posted on any findings you come up with from your experiments.

 

[Revegged_Clone]

i'm thinking of grafting a clone onto a guava tree.... i used to graft cactuses all the time, and i even once tried a "precursor cocktail" but cacti are oune thing, this is completely different.

i also used to take care of some orchids and other stuff and did some grafting during that time, but.. it's def not the same

well, i couldn't really do it with a traditional clone, but imma have to try it with a really woody stem. i'm not even sure how i would go about grafting this on my dad's completely open, visible terrain.... hmm, imma go in a couple weeks and try to take a cutting from the tree and THEN after it's rooted try to graft the clone onto it?

this goes way over my head, i think. well, teh theory is simple, the mechanics of it escapes me right now. i'll start and do a thread in advanced techniques(there is such a subforum here, right?)

if a mod could go ahead and close this thread? this doesn't belong here anymore.