From Pipe Resin to Hash: A Novice's Experiment

[Horus]

I've always smoked pipe resin, which is very hit-and-miss. Sometimes I'll get stoned from it, then the next time I'll smoke twice that amount and not even get a buzz. It's frustrating to scrape: getting a good amount can often take an hour. It's also frustrating to smoke: the resin tends to turn into a "resin cake", which again begins to break up towards the end causing me to suck tiny pieces of burning resin into my mouth. It's just generally no fun and a big hassle, but something I do in desperation.

The other day I stumbled upon a big bottle of rubbing alcohol and had an idea. I'd heard about iso hash once or twice on these internets of ours but had never seen it in real life - hell, I've never seen any sort of hash in real life (I mostly smoke brick-weed). I understood the principle though: the thc from some sort of waste-product (or actual buds) is dissolved in iso, then the waste-product is strained out and the iso is evaporated to leave the various oils that iso extracts. I decided it'd be cool to do this with my pipes. They didn't have all that much resin on them, not enough to be worth scraping, but they did have a thin layer of resin covering the entire insides - it just wasn't a thick enough layer to scrape easily.

So I poured some rubbing alcohol in a glass container and plopped in my two pipes which aren't used for tobacco - only pot. One of them was a metal dugout and the other a small, cheap, wooden pipe. I realized after an hour that iso probably isn't good for wood so I checked out the pipe and saw that the vast majority of the resin was already gone so I took it out, leaving the metal one in all night. The iso turned a yellowish brownish color as I figured it would.

Some ash got into there through all this. Resin itself is at least partly ash, and there was some ash and tiny flecks of pot in the bowls - not a lot or anything but a little. Since all I was doing was soaking my pipes the only "contaminant" of the iso was this ash, so I decided not to filter and just leave it in there. I was too pussy to heat the iso up since I didn't know how you can avoid exploding the rubbing alcohol (or igniting the fumes) so I just left it to evaporate and, after three days, it was done

Anyway I'm sitting here with the hash next to me right now. It "looks" like hash to me - sticky (but not too sticky), black, kinda shiny, thick - and I think leaving the ash in there actually helped with the consistency of the stuff. I got a thick wedge of hash about the size of the fingernail on my index finger.

So, conclusion: soaking your pipes in iso hash works, and I'll definitely be doing it again.

One question: how to I go about smoking this stuff and how much should I smoke? Right now I'm just thinking about plopping the whole stinky thing on top of a bowl of shwag and smoking it all, but I would like to hear some word on at least the proper dosage of this stuff. I always hear stuff like "you only need a tiny drop" but I find it hard to believe :\ I might also smoke it straight in the bowl - but probably not since I don't have a screen atm; or I could roll it up in a cig, which I've done with regular resin, but probably not since I don't want to waste any.

I'll report back with a report about how high it got me and whatnot. People say resin gives a "shit-high", something I disagree with; maybe I can change a coupla peoples' minds with the trip report, make 'em realize the gold mine of THC they're sitting on

Peace and happy smoke!

 

[Big D]

lol, you're bring back the memories! When I was a KID I did alot of scrapin'. I have not smoked resin in many many years. Good luck with your experiment!

Peace....D

 

[Horus]

Here I'll give y'all a brief description of the pot I'm smoking, since I'm not smoking iso-resin-hash but rather a mixture of shwag and the hash.

This is some pretty average-looking commercial pot. It's very flat: a half-pound is a very clear, rectangular brick and you can very clearly see where it was cut in half. I love bricks for some reason; they just look really cool. Anyway it's mostly dark green with some bits of brown, black/purple, and grey. It's underdry too; not to an extreme level but yeah those cartel farmers should've left it in the sun for a coupla more days. The underdryness makes it burn pretty slowly and when when cleaning the grass you're more "ripping" it apart than "crumbling" like you do with better-dried weed. Not absolute dirt-weed but it's definitely pretty far from the crazy weed you lucky bastards smoke

There's not much smell, just the good ol' hay-smell with a hint of a peppery-herby smell. The taste is actually not all that bad for weed of this quality. It's fairly smooth and has a very pronounced pepper taste (like a lot of mexican weed does ime) with some earthy undertones (again, pretty regular for mexican brick).

The high has been . . . variable. My dealer told me that it was some better-than-average brick and I'd back her up on that. At first I thought it'd be the same old brown frown but I smoked a large bowl from a tobacco pipe with a buddy only to get roaringly high (I do have a very high tolerance, btw). It was pretty heady: we were listening to classical music while smoking and I remember the music seeming more intense and playing a far bigger role in my mood than it normally would. I could still talk fairly normal, which was nice: I hate it when weed totally cluster-fucks my speech capacity and I talk all weird There was no body-buzz at all: just clean, cheerful, and a little trippy in a relaxing sort of way. Later that day though I smoked more and had a much more mediocre experience. I don't know if it was because of variability within the brick or because I'd already smoked that day but I got a very stony, couchlock high (and I mean that in a bad way, it wasn't a good indica-feeling) followed by a horrible hang-over. I had a mild headache and felt so weak in the muscles and tired and generally shitty that I spent the rest of the afternoon lying down snapping at people before stumbling into my room and falling asleep for five hours on my back above the covers and with all my clothes on (unusual for me), followed by yet more hangover after I woke up, which I finally managed to stave off with copious amounts of nicotine and some much better pot.

Soo . . . yeah. I have no idea if this was because of variability in the brick or because I'd smoked earlier that day. I have found that the first high of the day is always the best, though the difference between the two highs is pretty big to right off to just that. Anyway now you have an idea of the pot I'm smoking, I have my bowl packed with pot with the wedge of hash plopped on top, and I'm gonna get high. Be back in about half-an-hour to write a report of the resin-hash + shwag combo

 

[Horus]

Okay I've smoked it, but not all of it. My damned lighter went out and I have no other lighter + no cash. Dammit. I probably smoked about half the hash. The hash has fused with the weed I think; it's now hard and dry like a rock, but there's *definitely* a lot more.

I'm stoned. Very indica, but pretty nice. The taste was excellent, at least *way* better than the shwag. I can't really describe it, it just had a heavy, sweet taste kinda but not too strong (and pretty smooth). I feel stoned right now, it's not really interesting enough to describe in too much detail. I feel really stoned in the body and spacy, and of course there's some trippiness (sounds sound a bit odd, I have that vague "weed-vision" pretty strongly which is hard to describe but you're probably familiar with).

You know what? This shit wasn't done coming up. I'm actually decently baked. Not totally fucked but still nice 'n' toasty

The moral of this story? Always have an extra lighter and soak your pipes in iso! I soaked two pipes with very little resin - just the thin coating - and got enough to get baked three times or so. Have fun!

edit: dumb stoned spelling mistakes ("too" for "two" etc.)

 

[cellardweller]

try to light a candle, lighter problem solved..
glad you could make treasure from trash!

 

[Moldy Dreads]

That is disgusting heehhe. You are a shwag connoiseur and appreciator, a dying breed!
Man I wouldn't touch that oil tho.. but that's just me.. Smoke on..

 

[Horus]

That is disgusting heehhe. You are a shwag connoiseur and appreciator, a dying breed!
Man I wouldn't touch that oil tho.. but that's just me.. Smoke on..

Hehe I know

What can I say, I'm "old-school". I've been smoking shwag since I was a kid. It's so under-appreciated! Every brick is different. I have honestly had dirt-brown brick that got me more stoned than any headies I've ever smoked - I mean Christ, everything was so surreal and dark it was almost like a bizarre shroom-trip with less hallucinations. Also I live in the south, so we get a lot of brick here. It's just traditional; it's been around since the 40s at least There's nothing like hanging out with some rednecks (I don't mean that as an insult) on a porch out in the woods, a humid hot day, with a big bag of yummy brick and a few packs of rolling papers. Throw some guns into the mix and you've got yourself one hell of a time.

Up north most bricks are indica, old, and nasty. Down here we get "fresh" bricks and a lot of sativa. It usually gets smoked up pretty quick: dealers know the difference, even if they don't know the names, and will try to buy "better shit" (even though it's still brick). Nice highs; Mexican grass really is pleasant. It's not too trippy usually, just cheery, and it makes working easy - though sometimes it will cause a giddy laziness.

I love this region. I was outside doing a bunch of dip - a large almost opiate-like dose of nicotine goes well with this sort of buzz. Unfortunately I have come down a lot now D: I still have that great cheerful relaxing after-buzz that indica highs give you. Anyway things were so beautiful on my porch; a wonderful breeze blowing through the trees, perfect humidity, and just plain pretty. I dream of a day when this region secedes; it's too lovely to be subjected to the evils of the federal government.

 

[Moldy Dreads]

Nice highs; Mexican grass really is pleasant. It's not too trippy usually, just cheery, and it makes working easy

I love bud like that...

 

[Bumble Buddy]

Yeah I miss that good top notch Mexican stuff a lot, so damn smokeable, so pleasnt and tasty, used to call it "workingmans smoke".

 

[Horus]

Yeah I miss that good top notch Mexican stuff a lot, so damn smokeable, so pleasnt and tasty, used to call it "workingmans smoke".

I'd say that's a pretty apt description lol I remember when I was like 14 or 15 I worked in a farm out in the woods and all the workers would smoke fat joints of shwag at lunch to make the work easier. Those guys were strong as oxen!

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

if your pipe resin is hash, those guys were oxen.

 

[chubbynugs]

Umm why dont you just smoke resin? I would think it would be a way better tasting product then some oil made out of it. All in all though it would be some gross shit.

 

[Horus]

if your pipe resin is hash, those guys were oxen.

Sorry you're absolutely right this was not in any way shape or form hash. At the same time it was much better than resin and tasted much better, plus being stronger. I almost suspect - and this is just speculation - that the iso only extracted some oils from the resin; the thc was extracted along with some of the "nasty stuff", but at least some of the nasty stuff was left behind in the pipe since it tasted better and was stronger.

It wasn't hash but it wasn't resin; it was a pipe-resin extract that was easy to make, saved me about 20$, cleaned my bowl, and got me stoned Some people might think it's nasty but I promise it didn't taste that bad; but yeah whatever floats yer cheerios.

 

[MeTa4]

Its all good homie , you gotta do what you gotta do. Heres some karma coming your way =) kudos.

 

[Sleestak]

if your pipe resin is hash, those guys were oxen.

lol.


Haven't read the thread, but impossible to get anything CLOSE to hash from pipe resin, not to mention 'purify' or refine it. If you enjoy smoking the resin (for some horrible reason) I'd just stick to that. gdluck with your experiments though

 

[webguy]

flatten it and soak it in water for a few days, change water daily, you will get better quality resin to smoke at least. i say chuck it out and get some weed.

 

[love?]

Since iso cleans pipes so well I think it's obvious that you're smoking everything that was in the resin. If it only/mainly got the THC out the pipe would still be dirty afterwards..

So not really making it better but more like getting all of it out from the hard to reach places.

Nothing wrong with that though as long as you are cool with smoking resin... But it can't be too healthy.

 

[mriko]

hell, I've never seen any sort of hash in real life

Obviously... what you're talking about is oil, not hashish. Hash is made of matured and cured resin drops which are separated from dry buds through sieving (can be hand rubbed from live plants as well. Iso extracts and dissolves all thc from the plant material, be it resin drops, or cannabinoids which are in plant tissues. The resultin product is oil, and certainly not hash.
Iso-ing some pipe residue doesn't product any hash, but only oil.
Please, call a cat a cat.

It's so under-appreciated!

Agreed, I love schwag too and miss it a very lot ! Only bloody glass-weed around here, where are all the bricks gone ??


Irie !

 

[Gray Wolf]

I’ve been wondering what to do with that stuff too, now that I haven’t gotten desperate enough to smoke any for awhile and lawrd knows it accumulates if you still save it like this old hard times toker does.

With your question and one from another forum, I extracted the oils from about ¼ pint of such evil smelling dregs using hexane and after filtering, re-suspended it in ethanol, which I then reduced down to cook off any remaining hexane. In addition to the hexane extraction outside, I also had to cook down the alcohol outside, because of the ghastly ashtray odor.

Out of the half pint of pipe cleanings, I ended up with about 50ml of flow-able oil in tincture.

The appearance is very dark amber and the bouquet is slightly eu de ashtray.

I coated a rolling paper with the resulting product and after the alcohol flashed off, I inserted the paper in a test tube with a two hole stopper incorporating a draw tube, and baked the test tube in a 300W oven made out of two quartz lamps bolted together facing one another, with a wall light dimmer switch to modulate the intensity. See attached photos:

I am a poor judge of upper end because I haven’t gotten high since I started using MMJ daily. I will therefore give you my impression for what it is worth and note that I passed the extraction sample out to a larger panel for testing and feedback. More on that later.

Definitely heady, but not a soaring head. More like a tightness in the area of the hind brain (Lizard). I increased the dosage to three drops and it produced an inclination toward mental stupor that left me feeling mesmerized and inclined to stare fixedly into space.

Physically, it immediately relaxed my body’s smooth muscles, making me feel warmer and dropping my blood pressure and heartbeat, while also serving as a laxative.

Tastes hashy, with a mild flavorful ashtray aftertaste.

More feedback later, as it comes in.

GW

 

[Bumble Buddy]

eu de ashtray... Ha! Good stuff Gray Wolf, keep in comin', a lot more informative than the standard "its gross! and makes me feel like I'm wearing a tight hat" which is about as far as I ever got with the ole scrapings.