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From a male's point of view: Women

Sheriff Bart

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im a nice guy, and so i've only found other nice women whom i will love. it might be a while between them but its worth it for me. that and not trying to hit every thing in sight gives me much more time to do anything else I want like meditation and tending to my garden...and a lot of homework!
If they want to be treated like shit, I wont do it, thats all I know.
I think Pops has it right though (again, lol)
 
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Stoner4Life

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A stellar example of 'pussy rules' guys.
You youngsters out there oughta get used to it.

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EatCannabisRaw

I think girls might be attracted to the "jerk" perse, because that guy seems to not give as much attention to the girl.

So from their point of view, maybe that guy has a pretty high social status where he sees a lot of pretty girls.... and so he just naturally gives less attention to the girl...

She picks up on this, and it makes him seem more desirable..because he's obviously socially ranked. You could apply this to the animal kingdom.

But theres the problem with trying to FAKE this. You just can't. lol... you might for some time... but its not real, and she will realize it.

Personally I just want to be myself... and develop confidence in myself... and if i find a girl who i think is worthy of my attention. I will give it to her. but if she falters then i will back off..

i agree with playing the game, and lowering of one's overall integrity/etc... but thats just where i'm coming from. i've never really been all about "pussy" like some guys talk about... i'm interested in so many other things...

to each his own and a bottle of perdon
 
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Classyathome

I don't think we are discussing how to meet the woman of your dreams here...

The thread is about playas vs nice guys when it comes to scoring some stinkfinger.

And the unnatural attraction alot of females have for the guys who are not going to treat them like queens, or be faithful to them alone - and the poor bastards that try the "understanding, nice, friendly" approach, and get no action.

If you are looking for Ms. Right, and you really care about her, then be a decent guy. But is a little cootchie is what you seek, the more successful approach seems to be the callous, uncaring tact.

It trips their libido - nuff said.

IMHO
 
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Truthman

What is happening is that women want a man that they can feel comfortable around BUT the thing that separates someone who is a friend and a lover is the one who is a lover is the one who says what he wants around them, with respect, and they know he isn't a whore who ****s anybody without discretion. This why they always want to see who the people you were intimate with looked like because they want to know you have good taste in women and not a horny dog who has sex with anyone.

If a guy is romantic, always tells her he loves her, open doors, and all the things tv calls romanitc, they would eventually see him as a weak man because he caters to her every need. She knows she is capable of a lot of the same things as the man is and if he keeps catering to her, she will feel he is needy and she is the best he can get. He isn't with her because he wants to be, he's with her because he can't get anyone else.

This is why they like bad boys and players because these type of people have things to do and KNOW that a women isn't something to adore and admire just because she is a woman. She has to work to get his affection. She also knows she can do and say sexual things without him feeling like she is a whore and therefore he won't go bragging to his friends about their sexual activities. He's used to different types of sexual positions and openly talking about it so she won't feel uncomfortable. In fact it will be such a rush for her because she will feel so free in a world that is so closed minded when it comes to sex.

The only thing that she hates is that most of the time the guys don't have their finances right and therefore can't do things that she wants or they have trouble with the law that jeopardize her safety so the relationships don't last.

If you can truly be comfortable with who YOU are and express this when the time is right to her as well as talk to her about sex and DO different types of porno like sex acts, while making her feel comfortable and not like a whore that you just want for sex, SHE WILL BE ALL OVER YOU AND BE LOYAL TO YOU. You wouldn't have to worry about her cheating on you emotionally or physically.

You as a man is her teacher as well as her stability and in order to be these things you have to accomplish goals which give you confidence and also do things that make you a quality catch like learning the arts, cooking, mastering sex, financial stability, and most of all knowing how to communicate your wants and needs and learning how to express HER wants and needs. You do this by being a good listener to EVERYONE you meet in your daily activities. This is why its important to have converstations with DIFFERENT types of people because it will help you learn how to read people.

Get your confidence up, stop kissing womens asses and doing things that they can do themselves, and talk to them like you would your best friend BUT make sure you know when to stop so she won't think your being disrespectful. Peace.
 
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Truthman

Here's ana rticle showing most people don't even communicate their sexual desires to each other and this is the major cause of problems in relationships. It coincides with what I said about women liking bad boys and players. CONFIDENCE IN YOUR COMMUNICATION.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7000265.stm

"But there are still obstacles preventing complete honesty, she says, and not just embarrassment. Only a minority of people are confident communicators and then there are questions over having the time, energy and will to speak about it.

And with knowledge comes heightened expectation - and anticlimax. "Even if people are talking about it more - and that's good - their expectation of what it should be is exaggerated and that means disappointment a lot of the time."

This is the reason why its hard to settle down, at least for me. I know what I want in a mate and sex is a major part because I have it everyday and if she doesn't know how to wokr her body and isn't willing to stay working at it the sex isn't all that which means I have to move on.

Of course its more than sex that makes a relationship BUT if I'm doing it EVERYDAY and she is so closed minded to open up and enhancing her skills, that means I'm wasting my time.

Its like being with someone because they don't like the fact that you smoke and they won't try it with you except for once in a while like at a party. Eventually her not wanting to learn more about your daily routine and also not willing to join in with you, will set you apart because you don't like what the other is doing and its a MAJOR part of their lifestyle and if you do something EVERYDAY, its your lifestyle. Peace.
 
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Classyathome

You as a man is her teacher as well as her stability and in order to be these things you have to accomplish goals which give you confidence and also do things that make you a quality catch like learning the arts, cooking, mastering sex, financial stability, and most of all knowing how to communicate your wants and needs and learning how to express HER wants and needs.



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huh?
 
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PoppinFresh said:
yeah i sort of felt the same way. kind of cavemanish to a degree. very old world even.

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No, it's actually very new type of thinking for most people because I'm not crontrolling her, I'm listening to her and expressing the things she says as well as watch she says with her body's reactions to certain things.

I know we would want a woman who tells you what she wants so you wouldn't have to guess but it's just not like that and doing the things I wrote works.

Why do you think pimps, macks, and playas get away with what they do?. It isn't because they forced someone to do something. It's because they studied woman and gave them what they wanted BUT in an aggressive, stern way while still doing things that they want to do although a lot of the things are hurting their relationship as far players go. They live THEIR life and the women lives hers and when they meet up, they enjoy each other. They don't live for the other person, the other person is just icing on the cake to the enjoyable life they already have.

I grew up with women and very few older men around me and I noticed the women were more subtle with what they said and what they wanted. They said one thing but you can tell they wanted another. I had to learn how to read them without older men who didn't understand woman telling me something else.

I also grew up around guys who you couldn't be soft around or you would be labeled weak. So when I put these two things together I realized this is what makes you wanted by women. Knowing how to listen and observe, making them comfortable, and also knowing when to let them know they can't bullshit you.

It may sound like what I'm talking about is cursing at them and being considered disrespectful but it's not. Its just being stern while at the same time being soft when dealing with a woman.

Obviously the thread starter saw this for himself and tons of other men see this if they choose to.

Listen to Tom Leykis and he says the same thing although more direct and a little more disrespectful but the essence is the same and that is don't cater to women, live YOUR life not what others want, and have goals to achieve. Peace.

Tom Leykis:
http://www.971freefm.com/pages/4096.php
 
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PoppinFresh

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You do realize, you're talking about pimping. That's a whoooooooole different beast. I can tell you right now, that only works on the weak minded ones that are looking for a daddy figure - someone to tell them what to do.

I promise you that will NOT work on a woman like the ones I prefer to have in my life - very strong minded, educated, beautiful and successful! i've grown up around those types of women. the men that i've grown up around know how to deal with such women. and it doesn't involve a lot of those things you say.

besides how is a man supposed to teach a woman when he doesn't know shit himself? all any one individual can know is themselves. you know what you want and what you desire in a woman. so you "teach" or the better word here is TRAIN a woman, much like a dog, to do things YOUR WAY. it gets to a point where you don't have to keep her on a leash for too long. so you think you aren't controlling her when you've already put the controls in place and she's just on autopilot!

that's a pimp's game. Poppin Fresh don't get down like that. i can tell you right now, the women i deal with would probably smack the shit outta you for even sayin shit like that! sure you'd just hit em back cuz that's what pimps do. hopefully you aren't dealin with any of the tough ones cuz that'd be your ass in the worse way. **** a self defense class, these bitches get busy. LOL.

trust me, your views are NOT new at all. they are as old as the oldest profession and i ain't talkin bout hunting and gathering, ya dig?!? pick up something by iceberg slim. if you already know about him then you already know the shit you sayin is OLD SCHOOL pimp game! either, there's a lot more you ain't tellin or you don't know what the hell you're talkin about.
 

gramma watt

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Classyathome said:
I got married, treated my wife like a queen - and still got none. We seperated for a while, and I decided to try the winners way. I had more pussy then an animal shelter.

Odd fact here - women who are raped have a better than average chance of being impregnated by their rapist, as the female body genetically takes violent or aggressive sex as an imperative to reproduce. Woman are hardwired to respond to bad boys.

Be understanding, kind and considerate - but know that she is gonna put her knees up for the first dick that treats her like shit.

What a stupid moronic thing to say....
no wonder you ain't married no more....
 
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Truthman

PoppinFresh said:
You do realize, you're talking about pimping. That's a whoooooooole different beast. I can tell you right now, that only works on the weak minded ones that are looking for a daddy figure - someone to tell them what to do.

I promise you that will NOT work on a woman like the ones I prefer to have in my life - very strong minded, educated, beautiful and successful! i've grown up around those types of women. the men that i've grown up around know how to deal with such women. and it doesn't involve a lot of those things you say.

besides how is a man supposed to teach a woman when he doesn't know shit himself? all any one individual can know is themselves. you know what you want and what you desire in a woman. so you "teach" or the better word here is TRAIN a woman, much like a dog, to do things YOUR WAY. it gets to a point where you don't have to keep her on a leash for too long. so you think you aren't controlling her when you've already put the controls in place and she's just on autopilot!

that's a pimp's game. Poppin Fresh don't get down like that. i can tell you right now, the women i deal with would probably smack the shit outta you for even sayin shit like that! sure you'd just hit em back cuz that's what pimps do. hopefully you aren't dealin with any of the tough ones cuz that'd be your ass in the worse way. **** a self defense class, these bitches get busy. LOL.

trust me, your views are NOT new at all. they are as old as the oldest profession and i ain't talkin bout hunting and gathering, ya dig?!? pick up something by iceberg slim. if you already know about him then you already know the shit you sayin is OLD SCHOOL pimp game! either, there's a lot more you ain't tellin or you don't know what the hell you're talkin about.

I'm not talking about pimping, it was just an example and NO all the women who do have sex for money are NOT weak minded. Sure a lot are but not all. In fact the difference between them and so called high class women is that the high class women don't tell you upfront what they're about and you have to learn how to read them whereas sex for money women tell you up front what they're about. This is why a lot of them are so tough at least seemingly.

Do you know the rate of std's is higher in society than it is in the prositution world in the U.S. and this is because square women play games. They are having sex on the side without taking precautions while bringing stuff home to the man. The same goes for men.

Believe me, I don't deal with low quality women BUT essentially most women want the same things, its just that some hide it better and some will work harder to get it than others. So you apply the same tactics to most of them in its essence while changing it up to apply to each women because they're different and not all exactly the same.


The type of women that are what you describe are most of the time the most conniving. I remember when I was foul and would mess with a woman who I knew was still with her man, talking to them while they would be talking to another man planning on going out to eat and I would be playing with her breast, kissing her, and being touchy feely. Never had to play games like other men that I saw. These women would play tough with men they KNEW they could play that game with BUT when I realized to let them know I don't play the bullshit, it STOPPED. I did this by letting them go when they said they would leave. Telling them I don't love them when they would use that to try to play games with my head. Just basically being real and NOT what society says how I should do treat a women.

These women were TOP NOTCH university students, played the game of getting married to corporate execs, going to church and being what society calls the good girl.

It's all bullshit.

Like I said, I'm NOT being disrespectful BUT I'm calling it like I see it. I used to watch these men who would listen to what their fathers said and it would NOT work for them because in the end, they got hurt BAD. They truly believed woman were precious and only did things because a man made them do it such as cheating. I would feel so bad for them because they would keep getting trapped because they were living in a world that doesn't exist anymore and it would backfire on them.

I'm not on no pimp shit, mack shit, or player shit. I'm about living MY life to the fullest and the women that I meet are coming along for the journey. It's nothing disrespectful or demeaning. I'm just not willing to sacrifice my life just to make someone else happy when they should be happy themselves.
I'm just expressing this in a blunt way. Peace.
 
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PoppinFresh said:
besides how is a man supposed to teach a woman when he doesn't know shit himself? all any one individual can know is themselves. you know what you want and what you desire in a woman. so you "teach" or the better word here is TRAIN a woman, much like a dog, to do things YOUR WAY. it gets to a point where you don't have to keep her on a leash for too long. so you think you aren't controlling her when you've already put the controls in place and she's just on autopilot!

I don't know how you came up with this because I specifically said I LISTEN and OBSERVE what SHE WANTS. I didn't say I get her to do what I want.

I also said live out your goals and do different things to become a quality person.

I think your reading my being blunt as being coldblooded and that is far from who I am. Peace.
 
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PoppinFresh said:
trust me, your views are NOT new at all. they are as old as the oldest profession and i ain't talkin bout hunting and gathering, ya dig?!? pick up something by iceberg slim. if you already know about him then you already know the shit you sayin is OLD SCHOOL pimp game! either, there's a lot more you ain't tellin or you don't know what the hell you're talkin about.

Iceberg slim is NOT a pimp you would want to take advice from. He was a drug addict, he beat his women, and he just didn't have his life together until he got older. A lot of things I didn't agree with him on such as not showing emotions to a women or what he called a whore. You can do it BUT give different levels of it and know your limit.

I read one of his books when I was 12 years old and even then I knew he wasn't playing the pimp game right. Peace.
 
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Mrs.Babba

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Its interesting reading all your thoughts on women, and I really dont know what to say...I see it more as being nice to everyone, regardless of their gender, you cant like everyone that you meet in life, but you can live your life with a much respect for everyone and yourself,who can ask for more? am I even making sense? ...I dont know...I like a guy that is nice to me, who makes me feel safe and I try to do the same thing :)
 
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Mrs.Babba said:
Its interesting reading all your thoughts on women, and I really dont know what to say...I see it more as being nice to everyone, regardless of their gender, you cant like everyone that you meet in life, but you can live your life with a much respect for everyone and yourself,who can ask for more? am I even making sense? ...I dont know...I like a guy that is nice to me, who makes me feel safe and I try to do the same thing :)

This is basically what I'm saying BUT there are women who play games and if you don't stop it in its tracks you WILL get hurt.

Being blunt and letting them know to chill with the bullshit is how I do it and it WORKS.

Like I said listen to Tom Leykis and Traiq Nasheed. Before I heard these men I thought I was the only one who thought like this and kind of felt alone because the people around me just treated everybody the same even when they saw signs that they were being bullshitted. I don't know if they were scared to confront the women for fear of looking like a mean guy or just ignoring it but in the end they ALL got trapped.

I didn't. No kids, no forced marriage, no giving up on my dreams to buy a house with her or help her out with her debt and a whole bunch of things that a lot of women do to men that doesn't get talked about in the mainstream.

I want to enjoy my life by all means possible without hurting anyone BUT I'm aware there are people who don't feel the same way.

They want to enjoy their life by any means necessary EVEN if it means hurting someone emotionally and physically by taking their money or tricking them into kids so they will always have money coming in to take care of themselves.

I'm not blinded by love or lust so I take all precautions to protect myself. Peace.
 
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cocktail frank

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all i know is that if my wife walks away from the kitchen, i'll punch her dead in the mouth.
then i tell her i'm sorry and i love her.
then we have sex and she apologizes to me.....go figure!










just kidding, dont tell my wife i wrote this, she'll kill me!
 

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