From a male's point of view: Women

[Irishslappop]

After my last break up with my ex-girlfriend which was about 2 years ago, i became a total player. Used em, abused em, whatever, i really didn't care. It felt good getting laid all the time by a bunch of different girls and just having them jock me and being able to turn them down [role reversal]. It was pretty crazy and totally fun because even though i was a total jerk, WOMEN LOVED ME.
Eventually i found myself bored and started looking for a good girl, someone to love. Remembered a girl that i had had a crush on in high school, sought her out, and made her my girlfriend. Fell in love yadda yadda yadda. Of course, i like to do things correctly and do them well. I was a GREAT boyfriend. always told her how great she was and how she was special and bought her stuff for no reason at all. looked in her eyes for 30 minutes straight and all that jazz blah blah blah.

But this is the weird part. She really liked me. loved talking to me, hanging out, going on dates, doing special things for me but i could tell that she didn't feel the same way that i felt about her. Well being a pretty well established ladies man, i knew that i wasn't doing something right. one night and acted like i'd used to with other women, like a player, spittin game at her, generally manipulating her and being a prick . Low and behold, she loves me now.
This was a biiiiiiig time WTF?? for me. It kind of opened my eyes and made me slightly depressed. I mean, i LOVE being nice to people, but that isn't what she really wanted. That may have been what she said she wanted, but it wasn't the truth. so WTF man? I've been writing a guide to getting women and finding good relationships for some of my more shy buddies and i came up with this. Let me know what you guys think. It's very cynical, and not very romantic, but i definately find it to be true.

Women are always saying how they want a nice guy…someone who will open up to them, spend time with them, do nice things for them, in general, be there for them.

Bullshit.

Next time I hear that from a woman, I will say exactly that. Bullshit. Because you don't want the nice guys. Sure, you can say you do all you want, and maybe you can trick yourself into believing it too. But the truth is - you want the jerks. You want the guys who show an interest in you, then back off for no apparent reason. You want the guys who don't call you for two weeks, and when they do they swear up and down they're committed to you. You want the ones who don't talk to you, don't open up at all (and you want to change them to boot!) If you do find a nice guy, you make sure he's unattainable. He has a girlfriend, or he's gay, or he doesn't want a relationship at all. Basically, you want what you can't have.

You know how I know this? I used to be a nice guy. Yeah, I'm the one you always come running to when the jerks screw you over. I listen to your problems, I offer advice. Like all nice guys before me, and the countless ones after, I'm always there to back you up. I tell you how pretty you are. I tell you how fun it is to spend time with you, how cool you are, how you deserve great things. You say thanks, briefly, and then continue to rant about Jerk #2873.

I tell you over and over that you deserve a better guy, and there's always that "but…". Then you call me up at 1 in the morning some night just to tell me how he finally called you after two weeks, and how happy it's made you. You make excuses for why he's been ignoring you. You make more plans to change him. "If." And, do you know what the worst part is? This is the guy you're attracted to. This is the guy you're willing to get physical with. This is the guy you're willing to lose your virginity to. You make a big deal about how you're not a slut, and you won't just kiss any guy. But you admit that you would go all the way with this guy. Or you want to. Or, you already have.

No, you don't want a nice guy. And don't give me that bullshit about "a good man is hard to find." There are millions of them out there. Probably hundreds around where you live. And I'm willing to bet you know a few. You know that guy you call at any hour at night to talk about your relationship triumphs/problems? The one who always compliments you, makes you feel better about yourself? Is always willing to drop whatever he's doing to satisfy your needs?

What about him? No, of course not him. He's not enough of a jerk for you.

And the worst part? You don't want him now…but you will. When you get older, oh, say 30, and the ticking of your biological clock gets louder and louder, and you realize you can't play these bullshit games anymore, you stop going for the jerks and find the closest nice guy you can find. Wait, I take that back, the absolute worst part is that we let you do it. We've been starved for your attention since puberty, and now we're all too happy to get it. We're nice guys too, so we accept you when you come around, instead of giving you the cold shoulder in return you've been giving us for 15 years.

I used to be a nice guy. expletive that. I took the phone calls, I dished out the compliments, I listened, I gave so much advice, shit, I should have a doctorate in psychology conferred to me right this instant. I used to be a nice guy, and I figured that I didn't need to actively look for a girl - that if I just got to know people, some girl would get to know me and really like me and develop an interest in me. I thought that I would make for an ideal partner, I'd open up with you, and be there as much or as little as you wanted me to.

I used to be a nice guy. What did that get me? 21 years of my right hand and softcore porn on Showtime. So, expletive it. expletive it entirely. I'm not going to try to meet women and get to know them, and to hell with the phone calls at one in the morning. Next time you start bitching to me over the fact that he hasn't called in a week, I'm just going to smile at you and say "Ok." In fact, maybe, I'll tell you to call him. Better yet, go over to his house, and drop your pants for him right this moment. Save us all some time. I feel the desire to be that good, dependable, caring friend slipping rapidly away.

And I like that.

Likes? dislikes? comments?

 

[NOKUY]

nice guys finish last...always!

 

[cdc]

sounds about right ....

 

[Passenger]

Nice guys don't finish last. Just don't go after idiotic women. I know of 2 women who are nothing like your society trapped materialistic fools like so many women are becoming these days and so are men.

People don't even know what love is these days it makes me sick to the stomach how people treat each other these days no one has any trust with each other. People think love is a physical bound, How good their ass looks Lust doesn't exist in my eyes only within your own self pity.

If people could open their eyes up and look past the flesh they would understand what a relationship is, Real love is forever yeah call me a pussy or a hippy. I tried playing a girl once and I felt like shit from doing it this was when I was 17.

 

[Guest]

nice guys finish last...always!

got that right..

well..nice in a way that your a wuss...but not meaning being a total abusive a-hole..
some kinda medium,you must find.
hmmm...why am i talking like yoda????

 

[NOKUY]

people like "yummybud" are "nice guys"

..and where is "yummy" right now.....prolly jakin off in his closet, hiding from his mom and, the world.

I was a str8 up "player" for along time too....I gotta say that its fun and easy, but it gets/got old.

I got sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sick of talking to stupid broads that I almost shut up all together.



girls play the same game tho...so don't let them fool ya.

 

[genkisan]

people like "yummybud" are "nice guys"

..and where is "yummy" right now.....prolly jakin off in his closet, hiding from his mom and, the world.

I was a str8 up "player" for along time too....I gotta say that its fun and easy, but it gets/got old.

I got sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sick of talking to stupid broads that I almost shut up all together.



girls play the same game tho...so don't let them fool ya.

Yummy is not a "nice guy"


Yummy is neurotic ineffectual twerp, with no motivation, no goals and no testicles.

Just because one treats women (at least those who deserve it) with respect, consideration and care does n mean one will "finish last"

That's always been my motto, and I have the best wife any man could ever dream of.....fer the last 14 years.

It's not about being a "nice guy" or not....it's about choosing the right woman.

 

[NOKUY]

Yummy is not a "nice guy"


Yummy is neurotic ineffectual twerp, with no motivation, no goals and no testicles.

Just because one treats women (at least those who deserve it) with respect, consideration and care does n mean one will "finish last"

That's always been my motto, and I have the best wife any man could ever dream of.....fer the last 14 years.

It's not about being a "nice guy" or not....it's about choosing the right woman.

tru that genkisan.

..but

bein "nice" and respect don't always go hand-in-hand

"nice" people bother me to a point that I can't fukin' stand it.

I'd rather you be honest and be an asshole if need be.

your right tho that it's about having/finding the right woman.....we are all different, and it can be hard to find someone u get along with, but I could never settle w/ soomeone just because "they are nice"

 

[PoppinFresh]

dude how are you this ladies' man and know women this badly! lol

women want the nice guy but they also want that chop a tree down, wrestle an alligator, SPANK THEIR ASS nigga.. if you get my drift. you have to realize there's always two sides to a person. a woman is looking for that roughness as well as that polished side. they like the asshole but they will never stay with the asshole. he's just a dick to ****. he doesn't finish last because with him the race never actually started. the same goes with the nice guy type in a sense. women who are looking for a nice guy get to start the race. they love the nice guy but when he doesn't display that "bad boy trait" somewhere in the relationship, she gets bored and turned off.

so it's about being both, not just one sided. a woman wants a guy who will open the door for her. but she also wants a guy who knows when to slam it!

think about it from a guy's perspective and what you, the man, would want in a woman. ludacris said it best.. i want a lady in the streets and a freak in the bed. women aren't any damn different. they want a gentleman in the street and pipe laying thug in the sack! and it's all about timing of course.

 

[Passenger]

Yummy is not a "nice guy"


Yummy is neurotic ineffectual twerp, with no motivation, no goals and no testicles.

Just because one treats women (at least those who deserve it) with respect, consideration and care does n mean one will "finish last"

That's always been my motto, and I have the best wife any man could ever dream of.....fer the last 14 years.

It's not about being a "nice guy" or not....it's about choosing the right woman.

Exactly.

Also I can't date girls who dont believe similar things to myself, Simple minds do not interest me.

 

[Guest]

hey poppin why are you qouting ludacris..??please quote 50 cent for now on...lol

ya i thought i had it made with my ex..meet her in highschool...thought she was the one..everything was great for the first 15 years ...then she just turned into your typical sucubus..
i was the nice guy towards her for many,many years..maybe she got bored with that..?
but now i just f em and kick em to the curb...f the bullshat...

 

[Yummybud]

well I am actually pretty "nice". lol I'm nice to everyone including people I hate.

 

[Swoop420]

hahaha... irish that is classic!! poppinfresh has got it nailed though!

 

[Classyathome]

So true - time and time again I saw guys treat women like crap, they'd find a nice guy to cry on, but always went home with the asshole.

I, growing up, was always respectful and understanding - and got NONE. My buddies would hump and dump - they had no shortages of bearded clam.

I got married, treated my wife like a queen - and still got none. We seperated for a while, and I decided to try the winners way. I had more pussy then an animal shelter.

Odd fact here - women who are raped have a better than average chance of being impregnated by their rapist, as the female body genetically takes violent or aggressive sex as an imperative to reproduce. Woman are hardwired to respond to bad boys.

Be understanding, kind and considerate - but know that she is gonna put her knees up for the first dick that treats her like shit.

 

[Pops]

Sounds like a bunch of immature guys are dating a bunch of immature chicks. Hopefully you will all grow up sometime.

 

[Tom Hill]

For cried pete, open a few doors, act like your grandfather did, he was a man. Don't take no shit off nobody, have a good plan, & she will follow you. Otherwise you deserve what your reapin...

 

[PoppinFresh]

hey poppin why are you qouting ludacris..??please quote 50 cent for now on...lol

ya i thought i had it made with my ex..meet her in highschool...thought she was the one..everything was great for the first 15 years ...then she just turned into your typical sucubus..
i was the nice guy towards her for many,many years..maybe she got bored with that..?
but now i just f em and kick em to the curb...f the bullshat...

15 years... tha's a ****ing long time! i'd have to give her hell for a few years lol. but, those high school relationships worry me in the sense that the woman hasn't had a chance to experience other things. the man is the same way HOWEVER, we're gonna be ****in happy as long as our stomachs are full and our balls are empty! you can quote me on that LOL.

women are a lot more promiscuous than they'll admit, most of them anyway! it may not even be that YOU were boring. it may simply be that she was just bored of the same guy! being that she came out of high school, she probably never had much other experiences and never learned to express her desires so that shit was just building up until one day.. BOOM she's shining the postman's knob! at least that's what it sounds like with you.
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the main advice i can give any guy that wants a keeper, it's a give and TAKE. we're all always taught to give, give, give.. hold the door, pay for the meal, buy gifts, offer this and offer that - be the nice guy, be the gentleman. but back then, most women had stable fathers and families too! they learned from their fathers that a man should be more than nice watching dad spank moms ass in the kitchen and shit like that. at the same time, the boys don't get a chance to see dad being that "asshole" to mom sayin little dirty things and whatnot LOL. when we're young we see that shit and say ewwww but when we get into that situation, what do we do? SAME DAMN THING. lol.

by all means, hold the door open, buy her gifts but make her work for it a little. pick a few silly fights, wrestle her ass to the ground. don't go making love all the time face to face. turn that bitch on her knees and give it to her hard!

the one thing nice guys and assholes have in common is predictability. that's why neither ever works out in the long run.

 

[Guest]

Also I can't date girls who dont believe similar things to myself, Simple minds do not interest me.

Why are all minds that are not similar to yours simple?

 

[B.C.]

If you have ta put up a front ta be with a woman it isn't gonna last.Be confident in who you are and every thing else will fall in place.Showin em the time of their life in the bedroom doesn't hurt either.Who's yo daddy? lol j/k later,BC

 

[1TWISTEDTRUCKER]

I can't speak to the whole Player thing,other than to say I could'nt ever be "That Guy".
I guess thats why i never got much play i high school.
To me playin the game cheapens ones true self,makes ya cynical,& mistrustfull of others.
I was lucky enough to find a women as hard headed and bruitly honest as i am,& we've been married a little more than 20yrs.
We definately don't see eye to eye on a lot issues,but at the end of the day we both know exactly where the other is coming from is a place of honesty,& integrity.
When i met this lovely lady I had wrecked my life,hit Rock Bottom,& was on the trail to rebuilding my life.
We met,& became best friends within a week 3mos later i proposed,3 mos.later we were married.
I could have been KING of tha PLAYA's BALL,had i chosen that road.
As i am,& always have been a people watcher.
It has never ceased to amaze me the lenghts some people will go to,to play some one for every thing from sex to things as little as a pack of smokes.

Sorry for the rant.

I guess I just aint cut that way.Playin tha Game just isn't worth the psychic toll it takes on me.

Hey to each his own,i just prefere to associate with likeminded folks,i'm not making judgments on anyone here,just adding my .2 cents.

Play on PLAYER,if thats what gets ya through the day.

PEACE,LOVE,& INTEGRITY;1TT