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FPE from flowers = phosphorus source?
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schwagg
that's sweet! big difference!
nice!
for P i found Lambsquarter chenopodium album leaves would work well
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/highchem.pl
36,833 ppm according to link, freakn beets seem to be good for everything!
HTH
for P i found Lambsquarter chenopodium album leaves would work well
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/highchem.pl
36,833 ppm according to link, freakn beets seem to be good for everything!
HTH
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ngen
wicked results bonsai, i had to leave a potted plant at my friends house to finish up its cycle. They expected me to drop off a ton of nutes and shit, i handed him a jar of flower extract, made of 3 or 4 different species of flowers i cultivated (I know this isn't in accordance with jays empirical evidence of finding better results in use of a single species of plant per extract, and randomly experimenting, but unfortunately i couldn't find any nettle, yarrow, comfrey-the real goodies where i lived so i had to try something else.),4 weeks into flower, no P deficiency yet and no noticable Nitrogen yellowing yet from pictures i have seen. FPES= extracted and concentrated awesomeness.
darc mind i can't believe that! we just harvested all our lambsquarter plants last week and it's all gone to salads!!!!! lucky i have some strung up in my room to collect seed stock from ha! (and to eat the seeds yum!)
i've also noticed that this isn't amongst our common plant nutrient lists:
http://oregonbd.org/Class/accum.htm
darc mind i can't believe that! we just harvested all our lambsquarter plants last week and it's all gone to salads!!!!! lucky i have some strung up in my room to collect seed stock from ha! (and to eat the seeds yum!)
i've also noticed that this isn't amongst our common plant nutrient lists:
http://oregonbd.org/Class/accum.htm
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ngen
oh yeah i know you didn't mean it wouldnt work. just not quite as well as the single tried and true plants.
ive only mixed after the fact they have been fermented and mixing only occurring during diluting w/ water before deploying drench.
its nice to see others experimenting
lettuce also has some P, would work as a good mulch for OD or help in making designer compost or casting.
its nice to see others experimenting
lettuce also has some P, would work as a good mulch for OD or help in making designer compost or casting.
Any thoughts or experience with culinary herbs? I'm thinking about rosemary, cilantro and sage given their strong aroma.
Just curioius.
CC
Just curioius.
CC
ive used cilantro before, hate the smell of it but it works, sage does good too. never tried rosemary even though i have tons of it. its not my fav herb though. ive also done catnip, lemon balm, thyme, oregano, and other culinary hebrs. usually after im done picking and cooking with some theres extra so they go into a bottle of water and ferment for a few days.
cant beat given everything some diversity!
cant beat given everything some diversity!
What's in those flowers?
What's in those flowers?
I just picked about a cup of petals, very loosely, from roses and rosemary. About 2% rosemary.
I found when I got it to the kitchen.
4 cockroaches
3 jumping spiders
1 moth
1 weta
1 aphid (on a dying petal)
1 lacewing.
It was the first lacewing I ever found in my yard, it flew off directly into a daddy long legs web in the kitchen and got itself paralysed and wrapped up.
After extracting all the critters I blended a few pulses and put a touch of em and molasses stirred in with the pink water. Sound OK?
I just spotted a huge camellia bush, I'm gonna hit that now.
What's in those flowers?
I just picked about a cup of petals, very loosely, from roses and rosemary. About 2% rosemary.
I found when I got it to the kitchen.
4 cockroaches
3 jumping spiders
1 moth
1 weta
1 aphid (on a dying petal)
1 lacewing.
It was the first lacewing I ever found in my yard, it flew off directly into a daddy long legs web in the kitchen and got itself paralysed and wrapped up.
After extracting all the critters I blended a few pulses and put a touch of em and molasses stirred in with the pink water. Sound OK?
I just spotted a huge camellia bush, I'm gonna hit that now.
FPE's are teh awesomeness.maryjanecares
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Chemical Query doesnt work.
Chemical Query doesnt work.
I put in a couple different plants including "beets" and its plant name and I got NOTHING.
its kinda idiot proof so...I washed the "idiot" off of my forehead a few times just in case it was invisible ink.
Chemical Query doesnt work.
I put in a couple different plants including "beets" and its plant name and I got NOTHING.
its kinda idiot proof so...I washed the "idiot" off of my forehead a few times just in case it was invisible ink.
you search for chemicals/nutrients not plants.
try searching for Phosphorus or nitrogen. this will give you a list of plants containing the nutrient and its amount, simply find plants in the list that grow locally and you have yourself a natural free source of said nutrient.
it works for plant chemicals like triacontonal thats in alfalfa too
try searching for Phosphorus or nitrogen. this will give you a list of plants containing the nutrient and its amount, simply find plants in the list that grow locally and you have yourself a natural free source of said nutrient.
it works for plant chemicals like triacontonal thats in alfalfa too
Jaykush, or anyone really, have you made FPE from alfalfa? I'm just curious how using alfalfa fresh would be different than in a FPE. I guess that same would go for any other FPE, that we have access to in an unfermented state, like guano. Behind this question I'm wondering how much of any effect, is the bacteria in a FPE, or the lowered PH........scrappy
I've soaked alfalfa to the point where it was naturally fermented but not in the method that I believe that you're referring to using the lacto rice serum or one of the EM-1 products.
CC
CC
A couple of time per grow I just soak a tbs or so of alfalfa meal in a qt of water for 24 hours and strain, dilute, then spray. The plants love it and usually you can see new growth quickly.
But using the same water in a drench does not show me much.
Although a ewc tea with just a tad of alfalfa meal seems to work well. I understand the tea has the advantage of active microbes to break down the alfalfa, but would FPE work just as well?
And that leaves me curious as to if fermenting is somehow more beneficial than fresh, and if so, why.........scrappy
