Flowering under 14-10

[Guest]

Im really not a newb...

Im about to run an experiment with some LUI clones from about 4 different plants....

Im going to put some under 12-12... some under 13-11

and some under 14-10....

Tell me....

what do you think I will find????

 

[Guest]

The experiment is about the plants reaction to the longer light cycles....

Nothing beyong that.... nothing about yields and such....

The bottom line is that I suspect some folks do not believe the plants will flower under anything but 12-12.....

some will swear up and down the plants will not flower under 14-10

thats what I want to focus on.....

by the way from the research Ive seen 10-14 is not a great idea....

experiments show that while the plants flower faster they also create far less thc....

So Ill stick to 12-12....

thanx for the response....

 

[Guest]

I vegged under 14/10 and flowered under 10/14 long ago,like my first couple grows before discovering the forums.14/10 is a veg photoperiod for sure,13/11 is getting rather iffy a lot of plants are going to want to flower under that photoperiod.I'm not sure what you're tring to accomplish,but after 6 years without a vacation I've discovered the simpleist to be best.Pick your veg photoperiod from 14/10 24/0,take you pick.You can interchange these photoperiods during veg growth without any negative effects that I've noticed.When ready to flower simply switch photoperiods to 12/12.I've tried it all bro,darkness before flower,gradually changing photoperiods,its all a waste of time and energy IMO

 

[Guest]

Ive said what I plan to accomplish....

Will these luis flower under a longer light cycle.....

thats pretty much it....

I gather from the responses that The Slickster says the plants under longer light cycles will flower more slowly but will flower....

smilin bob says that the plants will stay in veg under 14-10....

thats what I want to know.....

My opinion is the same as the Slickster...

 

[Guest]

I get it now,Hey bro long time lol!In my experince with 14/10,and it hasnt been but a few times with a few pheno's,they will not flower under 14/10 no matter how long you have them under that photoperiod.Thats been my experience,no experience with 13/11,but I bet you'd have a better shot under that photoperiod.Its not the light hours determining the hormonal change,but the dark hours.I just dont think 10 dark hours will make a cannabis plant flower,but I'm not a cannabis plant either lol

 

[Guest]

I figured you might get it....

Since we have had this discussion before.....

but like arnold said in his movie....


I lied.....

I didnt do the experiment as I said....

but did place my plants under 14-10.....

and they are done....

Are you still sticking to they will not flower under 14-10????

If you are I have a little suprise for you.....

 

[Elevator Man]

In my experince with 14/10,and it hasnt been but a few times with a few pheno's,they will not flower under 14/10 no matter how long you have them under that photoperiod.

I'm afraid I have to disagree - I've just flowered my entire grow by starting them flowering on 14/10 - nearly every strain started showing pistils after eight days, when I switched to 12/12. The only strains that didn't respond to 14/10 were my sativa-dom skunks, and a Malawi Gold (pure sativa).

I do veg on 16/8 exclusively, which makes it easier, but I have two strains that will grow small buds at 16/8 and flower properly on 15/9! Check out my grow thread below - the evidence is all there...

 

[Guest]

Stands and applauds elevator man.....

Spot on mate.....

I had some variation in how fast they wanted to flower....

but all my plants have fuzzy hair toppers.....

Im about to go to 12-12 but clearly they all have initiated flowering....

and once that starts you cant stop them.....

Elevator mans experience with sativa doms is also correct in my opinion....

 

[Guest]

Just what are you trying to prove man?Are you a grower or a kid out to make someone look bad?I told you my experiences with it.I dont have time to screw around seeing if flowers will form under funky photoperiods,I'm a grower.You have a little surprise for me?lol fuckin kids do you feel big now?I vegged under 14/10 and my plants didnt even preflower,but whats the point here?O yea,its its just a kiddie "gotcha".Gotta go now man,I'm, here to help newer growers,not to try and impress.

 

[Guest]

Here are your own words......

And please Please,flower a plant indoors at 14/10 thats what this is all about isnt it?O thats right,you'd rather just read it than check it out for yourself lol

Now that Ive tried it you get all pissy???


whats up with that????


You flat out said they wouldnt flower.....

And Im older than you are.....


but I dont care for charlatans.....

 

[Guest]

OK you were right I was wrong,case closed.

 

[Guest]

and the point of this thread is what?
is there any relevance to growin or is it just plain argumenative?

 

[Elevator Man]

Smilin Bob - hope you didn't take offence with anything I posted - it certainly wasn't my intention to score points on the question at all and I suspect I may have missed something somewhere else!

My experience seems to show that certain strains (the more indica-dom the better) will flower under much higher light periods than 12 hours. That said, I suspect the veg photoperiod before triggering is just as important, hence my use of 16/8 for everything else. I'm trying to acclimatize my plants to a lower 'virtual latitude' basically...seems to work so far...

 

[Guest]

I didnt at all EM,actually its pretty interesting stuff.My point,as in the other thread before this childish "setup" was that this is a grow forum for mainly new growers.All this confusion about photoperiods does a new gower no good,I'm sure this has a place in a funky photoperiod forum or such.My goal has always been to get the newbie started,that includes flowering with the standard 12/12 photoperiod.I've shared my honest experience about a 14/10 photoperiod,it didnt make my plants flower.Thats cool it did for you and shows the vagaries of growing,apparently someone here was to lazy to do it for themselves and prioritized a "setup" over actually seeing for themselves.I think its an interesting subject for another forum,I try to get the new growers concentrating on having 7 or more harvests a year,not the vagaries of different photoperioeds and how they may affect different strains.No offense taken whatsoever EM,congradulations for experimenting and setting us all straight on the matter.

 

[DumpsterDiver]

by the way from the research Ive seen 10-14 is not a great idea....

experiments show that while the plants flower faster they also create far less thc....

I'd like to find out more about this. I've been flowering a Vietnamese sativa under 10/14 for about 6 weeks. I plan on travelling in early June and need an early finish. I don't really want to compromise the potency so would it help to switch to 12/12 in the last couple of weeks?

Can anyone confirm the relationship between photoperiod and potency?

 

[Guest]

Originally Posted by Rosy Cheeks
I agree and disagree with some of the inputs in this thread. First of all, cutting down on the light hours is hardly ever a good idea.
In 1973, two researchers (Valio and Valle) tested the influence on cannabionid content in Cannabis Sativa with different light cycles.
In short, they came to the conclusion that the longer the uninterrupted light cycle was, the higher the cannabinoid (THC) content in the plants.
In fact, between plants grown under 10 hours of light and 12 hours of light, the cannabionid content was twice (!) as high in the 12/12 test group. The researchers concluded that Cannabis needs 12/12 or 13/11 of uninterrupted light in order to reach maximum cannabinoid content. Here's an abstract of their research, the entire study can also be downloaded on the same site (UN office of Drugs and Crime):
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/bulletin..._1_page008.html

If you want to cut down light hours on a strain to finish it faster (or force finish a stubborn sativa that refuses to mature), know that when you rush things, you always loose out on quality and quantity. The plant produces flowers and resin up until late flower stage. Therefore, light cycles should never be shortened before peak flower stage, and preferably only in the very last week of the grow.

 

[Guest]

You may want to make a comprimise with an 11/13 photoperiod,I've heard of many people using this photoperiod on stubborn sativa's.I didnt mean to sound like 14/10 was a normal photoperiod for the vegging or flowering phase,its really not.My first two grows were vegged under 14/10 at the advice of a friend,I hadnt discovered the forums yet.11/13 seems to be quite a normal photoperiod for many sativa's,but not 10/14 that was just me and my inexperience on the subject.