Flora Nova questions

[SweetIndica2]

Ok, well usually i'm use to using Pure Blend Pro series nutrients, but want to try something new. I like organics, but i have seen the flora nova nutes and they interest me as i know they are part organic but also give the plants big swelling buds like most non-organic nutes. I know you can get good yields with organic, but in my experiences organics don't quite much up to chemicals, as far as taste they organic is the way to go, but i'm looking for yield here.

What i want to know is does anyone have any info or opionions on the flora nova line?

Should it be used with any other nutrients like bloom boosters, or liquid karma perhaps? If so, please recommend what i should use it with.

Does it balance the Ph well?

 

[Gangsta Lean]

im using both bottles in coco
i like it alot
i use LK, hydrogrozme, open sesame and beastie bloomz
for the next run im goin to add some sillica and topmax

my buds are pretty big i'd say for a 400w
one of my main colas on one plant is about 9'' long and about 3'' wide n getting bigger

yes it PH's well i dont even worry about it now, but i'd say that would depend on ur starting water

this is my second grow, my first one was in soil and i didnt even flush n the buds didnt taste like ne chems really, the ash didnt burn white but it was a light grey
so with a proper flush it would b better

 

[sugabear_II]

love, love, love floranova, the one and only I ever use for DWC (tried AN and FF)

For additives I think fulvic acid is a good one and I always found my plants liked a little extra MG in the form of 100ppm of epsom salts.

Floranova has plenty of N so you can veg with it too. I found it had a little too much N and often times began cutting out some floranova in favor of plain GH bloom or PK 13-14.

I also used GH floraliscous additive but was never really convinced of it's worth.

-suga

 

[inflorescence]

I too think floranova has a bit too much N.
Right now I'm trying to figure out how to counter act that but my canna pk 13-14 says to only use ONCE, yet I've heard of others using it in smaller does more frequently than once?
In other words I'm trying to bump the PK to outweigh the N but everyone says PK is strong and not to use it that much.
What to do?

 

[SweetIndica2]

Alright, thanks for the info. Yea, i heard they are some strong nutes and it's easy to over do it. Alot different than the PBP, which i'm use to using up to 6 tsp per gallon of water.

I'm planning on using the Flora nova grow and bloom, along with some epsom salt or cal mag, and some type of flower booster in flowering (beastie bloomz or PK 13-14, or something of the like). I usually use a little molasses during flowering as well.

 

[Guest]

I switched from PBP to FloraBloom.... I never bother with the grow formula as the bloom has just what the ladies need be it in veg or flower.

One thing I quickly noticed: It's very strong and can easily burn your ladies. I wasn't used to this as PBP is pretty weak stuff. I run 6ml per gallon and sometimes push it up to 8 if the plant can take it. Other than that, there's nothing else to it! No additives needed as the nutes are very well balanced!

 

[sugabear_II]

I too think floranova has a bit too much N.
Right now I'm trying to figure out how to counter act that but my canna pk 13-14 says to only use ONCE, yet I've heard of others using it in smaller does more frequently than once?
In other words I'm trying to bump the PK to outweigh the N but everyone says PK is strong and not to use it that much.
What to do?

I use the GH bloom - the orange stuff - as follows; during last 3 weeks prior to flush I drop the floranova down to 1/2 strength and then add enough of the GH bloom to bring it back up to almost the same ppm as the floranova was at. Then the week after that I cut down the floranova to 1/4 strength and add as much GH bloom as I did the last week (i.e. now running at 1/4 FN and 2/4 bloom). Then the week prior to flush I just give it the GH bloom again at the same amount as the week prior. Does this make sense? basically on a 9 week strain I would start at 5 weeks by cutting back the FN and making it up with bloom and then I keep the bloom stable and just keep cutting back the FN until nothing by week 8 and then week 9 is water flush.

I used the bionova ph 13-14 which has different instructions but found in the end the GH bloom was cheaper and basically the same thing.

Either way you should be mixing based upon ppms or EC so that you maintain the same concentration of nurients no matter how concentrated your fertilizer.

Also wanted to say that the FN is super concentrated and you will get many more crops off a bottle as compared to PBP.

Just don't let the FN sit for too long (more than a few weeks) without shaking after you open it or else it can pretty much turn into solid sludge.

-suga

 

[SweetIndica2]

Yea, PBP is definately very weak compared to most chemical nutes i've used. I have actually never burned any of my plants with it, and i've given them close to 30ml. The good thing with the nova is i should be saving alot of nutes. So instead of buying a gallon , i should be all set on a quart or two.

 

[inflorescence]

I use the GH bloom - the orange stuff - as follows; during last 3 weeks prior to flush I drop the floranova down to 1/2 strength and then add enough of the GH bloom to bring it back up to almost the same ppm as the floranova was at. Then the week after that I cut down the floranova to 1/4 strength and add as much GH bloom as I did the last week (i.e. now running at 1/4 FN and 2/4 bloom). Then the week prior to flush I just give it the GH bloom again at the same amount as the week prior. Does this make sense?

Cool, makes perfect sense. I was thinking somewhat along those lines but couldn't figure it out with the pk13-14 and probably would have never thought to use just the GH bloom.
But now that you explained it to me it seems like the perfect solution I was looking for.
Thanks!

 

[inflorescence]

Cool, makes perfect sense. I was thinking somewhat along those lines but couldn't figure it out with the pk13-14 and probably would have never thought to use just the GH bloom.

I was messing around with the pH spreadsheet and this is a comparison of FNB (flora nova bloom) compared to FNB + 1/2 AN bloom and FNB + 1/2 canna's PK 13/14.

Which do you think is the better ratio?

(elemental ppms)

FNB:
N 38.3
P 33.4
K 55.6
Mg 19.2
S 19.2
Ca 38.3

FNB + half the amount of AN bloom
N 38.3
P 41.1
K 67.4
Mg 24.4
S 24.4
Ca 38.3

FNB + half the amount canna pk13/14
N 38.3
P 51.4
K 92.5
Mg 19.2
S 19.2
Ca 38.3

 

[GREENJEANNIE]

I used to use GH three part chems. I have been using Floranova for my past 7 grows and the size of my flowers are huge. I also add Northern Lights Fat Flower at the very start of flowering-1teaspoon for every 10 gallons, and 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons after a few weeks. I'm growing Pot of Gold right now and after 4 days of setting the light to 12/12 I had flowers that I usually have to wait two weeks for, and at two weeks the flowers were the size of month old flowers. During the second half of flowering I add liquid Kool Bloom.

 

[Guest]

Try this: Buy a 50-55 gallon plastic drum. You can find them around feed stores, honey processors, farms suppliers and the like. I cut mine off above the 35 gallon mark and using tap water ( 6.9-7.0 ) ph (95-110 tds) fill to the 35 mark adding 10ml of GH product per 5 gallons the day before use to allow stabilization of ph. It is usually at 6.8 the next day.

Apply as usual and afterwards fill the barrel back to the 35 gallon level and apply at the next feeding, repeat the refill again and the tds will be very low, apply again and add water back to the 35 mark. After applying, re-mix as above and start the cycle over.

This has proven very successful with beautiful healthy plants and solid buds.

In addition, after flipping to 12-12 I continue the Grow plant food for 10 more days before going to the Bloom mix.

Additionally, be sure to thoroughly mix/stir the barrel before using as the GH products have solids that settle to the bottom of the barrel, re-stir as needed during application to maintain solids suspension.

Happy growing

Peace

 

[SweetIndica2]

Alright, i am grabbing some Flora Nova Bloom + Canna PK 13/14. Will the .25 liter be enough for 3 large plants? I use about 5 gallons of water for them every 5-7 days, and they are on about day 24 or 25 of flowering. Should i add any micro nutrients or calmag with it? I'm assuming not, since i've heard it works very well by itself from what i've read.