First Stealth Grow Auto Somango + Uknown Buddha seed

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Hello everyone, after spending hours and hours of reading and learning on this awesome website I decided to give it a try and grow my own buds for my personal use.
Guys, your advises are the main point of this journal.

The setup:
2x2x3 Stealth Speaker box (I called it "Box of Happiness")
reflective pads (car shade material)
homemade pvc pipes light fixture with 10 cfls (1) 50w 2700k (1) 50w 6500K (4) 30w 2700K (4) 30w 6500K
Apollo Adjustable Rope Hanger
Galaxyhydro 180w Led UFO (for future use)
(1) 118 cfm pc fan exhaust (ill add carbon filter soon)
(1) 50 cfm pc fan intake
Hydrofarm Timer
Ambient Weather WS-07 Wireless Thermo-Hygrometer (so I can know whats going on without opening the box)
(2) 5 Gallon pots + 1 for Fast&Vast ill be adding tmw
5.5- 6 ph potting soil (the best option i found in my city)

Germination:
I used 2 methods to see whats better
1-Unknow strain from Buddha seeds pack - germinated in soil (I didnt like this method because of the stem bend and droppy leaves)
2-Auto Somango from Advanced Seeds - toilet paper method.
3- Fast&Vast still germinating in toilet paper.

Please checkout the photos and let me know what do you think.

 

[five]

looks like im unwanted in here lol

 

[Cobra420]

Looking good.

I'm guessing the LED is going to be used for flowering??

 

[five]

Looking good.

I'm guessing the LED is going to be used for flowering??

exactly, for flowering

but this seedling makes me sad

 

[grouchy]

Be careful running an intake fan and carbon filter at the same time. When you restrict your exhaust with carbon you can easily create positive room pressure with an intake fan and smell will leak out of the cracks. You might be better off running passive intakes and just the exhaust fans. I would also advise installing your carbon filter now rather than waiting till you need it, it might not work as planned at first and the risk is less in veg.

 

[five]

Be careful running an intake fan and carbon filter at the same time. When you restrict your exhaust with carbon you can easily create positive room pressure with an intake fan and smell will leak out of the cracks. You might be better off running passive intakes and just the exhaust fans. I would also advise installing your carbon filter now rather than waiting till you need it, it might not work as planned at first and the risk is less in veg.

good point, thank you.
Any recommendation for carbon filter small enough for my 2x2x3 box?

 

[grouchy]

I like the push/pull method using pc fans. Find another pc fan just like the fan you have and stack them with a layer of carbon in between. I used a plastic container for mine with holes cut for each fan on top and bottom. It uses a thin layer of fabric and "gutter guard" aluminum mesh to keep the carbon out of the fans. A dryer sheet would work in place of fabric. Everything after the carbon layer must be sealed air tight to prevent leaks. Than just fill the carbon to whatever thickness you desire.

You will need to make sure you have enough passive intake to supply your fans. When you close the door the fans should not slow down. You can test this with a piece of paper floating over your exhaust if you need a visual. Light some incense or a cigarette inside and check to see if you can smell it while its closed. This will let you know if you have leaks.

 

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I like the push/pull method using pc fans. Find another pc fan just like the fan you have and stack them with a layer of carbon in between. I used a plastic container for mine with holes cut for each fan on top and bottom. It uses a thin layer of fabric and "gutter guard" aluminum mesh to keep the carbon out of the fans. A dryer sheet would work in place of fabric. Everything after the carbon layer must be sealed air tight to prevent leaks. Than just fill the carbon to whatever thickness you desire.

You will need to make sure you have enough passive intake to supply your fans. When you close the door the fans should not slow down. You can test this with a piece of paper floating over your exhaust if you need a visual. Light some incense or a cigarette inside and check to see if you can smell it while its closed. This will let you know if you have leaks.

MAN thats freakin awesome, gonna do this.
But im gonna get 2 silent fans around 80 CFM 20dbA each, the fan i have now is 118cfm 50dbA which is verrrrry load,noisy and hummming like crazy, its not good for a stealth box at all.

I found this in a pet shop, is it good enough?

 

[grouchy]

That would work for carbon. Just make sure it says activated carbon. They use a kiln to heat it up and activate it. It only has a limited life once you start using it. After a couple runs you will need to replace it with some fresh carbon. Wal-Mart sells a small container for $8 that would last awhile.

 

[five]

That would work for carbon. Just make sure it says activated carbon. They use a kiln to heat it up and activate it. It only has a limited life once you start using it. After a couple runs you will need to replace it with some fresh carbon. Wal-Mart sells a small container for $8 that would last awhile.

i just bought activated carbon and a perfect sized plastic container for this project. Ill order 2 Cougar Vortex 70CFM 17dbA

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rue&ref_=ox_sc_act_image_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Now, what I know is installing a filter will reduce CFM rate by 25%. The question is, if I use 2 70CFM fans push/pull does that mean I have 140CFM and 105CFM approx. after adding the carbon?

I really need a high CFM rate, the temperature reached 98F once and i went crazy.

 

[MedGrowerTom]

i just bought activated carbon and a perfect sized plastic container for this project. Ill order 2 Cougar Vortex 70CFM 17dbA

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rue&ref_=ox_sc_act_image_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Now, what I know is installing a filter will reduce CFM rate by 25%. The question is, if I use 2 70CFM fans push/pull does that mean I have 140CFM and 105CFM approx. after adding the carbon?

I really need a high CFM rate, the temperature reached 98F once and i went crazy.

my understanding is, you would still be at 70cfm. Since one fan is feeding into the other one, you might loose less cfm from the scrubber maybe, but you do not double your cfm for adding another one inline to the first one. However, if you had two fans next to each other, not using the same ducting, then you have two 70 cfm ducts and fans, and if you joined them together both feeding into a larger duct( like 2 4" into 1 6") then you would be able to add the cfm's together.
So, two fans inline to each other, creates the SAME cfm, using LESS work, making the fans work less and last longer. The more bends, hoods, scrubbers, or long runs, would benefit from an extra fan to pick up the slack.
But two fans not inline with each other, actually moves twice the air.

I know you said you were using pc fans, I'm sure you know, but just in case.. dont forget that larger fans move more air with less noise. You could always get larger higher cfm fans, and turn down the voltage on them to get it to a volume you can deal with and still have enough power for going through the carbon. Using pc fans would be easy to make a speed controller since your only messing with 12 volts...

 

[five]

my understanding is, you would still be at 70cfm. Since one fan is feeding into the other one, you might loose less cfm from the scrubber maybe, but you do not double your cfm for adding another one inline to the first one. However, if you had two fans next to each other, not using the same ducting, then you have two 70 cfm ducts and fans, and if you joined them together both feeding into a larger duct( like 2 4" into 1 6") then you would be able to add the cfm's together.
So, two fans inline to each other, creates the SAME cfm, using LESS work, making the fans work less and last longer. The more bends, hoods, scrubbers, or long runs, would benefit from an extra fan to pick up the slack.
But two fans not inline with each other, actually moves twice the air.

I know you said you were using pc fans, I'm sure you know, but just in case.. dont forget that larger fans move more air with less noise. You could always get larger higher cfm fans, and turn down the voltage on them to get it to a volume you can deal with and still have enough power for going through the carbon. Using pc fans would be easy to make a speed controller since your only messing with 12 volts...

I get the point, i think im going to use my old 120mm 118 CFM fan from the inside and the new fan for the other side attached to the box.

Im thinking of adding a 300W LED unit to my 180W UFO, 480W total. and take out 6-8 CFLs to reduce heat.
My goal is 1 oz+ per plant , I really dont know if thats enough lights to get to that number.

 

[five]

my understanding is, you would still be at 70cfm. Since one fan is feeding into the other one, you might loose less cfm from the scrubber maybe, but you do not double your cfm for adding another one inline to the first one. However, if you had two fans next to each other, not using the same ducting, then you have two 70 cfm ducts and fans, and if you joined them together both feeding into a larger duct( like 2 4" into 1 6") then you would be able to add the cfm's together.
So, two fans inline to each other, creates the SAME cfm, using LESS work, making the fans work less and last longer. The more bends, hoods, scrubbers, or long runs, would benefit from an extra fan to pick up the slack.
But two fans not inline with each other, actually moves twice the air.

I know you said you were using pc fans, I'm sure you know, but just in case.. dont forget that larger fans move more air with less noise. You could always get larger higher cfm fans, and turn down the voltage on them to get it to a volume you can deal with and still have enough power for going through the carbon. Using pc fans would be easy to make a speed controller since your only messing with 12 volts...

I get the point, i think im going to use my old 120mm 118 CFM fan from the inside and the new fan for the other side attached to the box.

And Im thinking of adding a 300W LED unit to my 180W UFO, 480W total. and take out 6-8 CFLs to reduce heat.
My goal is 1 oz+ per plant , I really dont know if thats enough lights to get to that number.

 

[SmokeGanj]

never used a pc fan myself but have heard about them so many times

 

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