First grow, droopy leaves need some advice

[Bluf1sh]

Hey guys I need a health check on some of new sprouted girls. Some info real quick...

Strain: Barneys LSD Feminized
Lights: marshydro 300, generic 135 actual watt LED
Tent: 3x3x5
Medium: Soil, Fox Farm, solo cups
Temp: Low 70, high 92
Humidity: low 23 high 70
Water: I water till 20% drains at ph 6.3, runoff is 6.5

Since they've sprouted they've looked droopy like this. Lights started at 24" then day to day drop more and more to finally 12" right now. Temps have been difficult to control since the start of the grow. Temps where I live have fluctuated wildly, sometimes 25 degree swing from day to day. Generally though, the temps during the light on period are 77-83 and at night 72-75. Humidity has been a bitch to control due to the heat of the tent. Daytime with a humidifier and it's tough to keep 25-35. During the night I can enclose the tent without heat issues and keep humidity at about 60, tempts at 75-77. I've water twice since planting germ seeds on March 9th. I haven't used any nutes, seaweed, molasses ect. Just ph'd water. I've done some research and I've come up with a few. Maybe the soil is hot? The leaves show nothing other than drooping amd are a deep green color and the next set are coming in. Only other thing I can come up with is heat stress or maybe too much mositure? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Bluf1sh]

Forgot some pics...

 

[w3rds]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with your seedling. Its just a baby, it will grow and its leaves will aim up, then down, then down some more, then up again. If you put a video cam in with them you would see the leaf lift and fall throughout the day. Only tip with FFOF with seedlings is that less is more. Keeping your seedlings a little dry will keep them from absorbing too many nutes from the soil. Everything about your grow seems stable, I have a 25-30 degree swing in my temps from night to day and everything is moving along fine at week 6.

 

[cravin morehead]

looks fine. Nothing will kill a plant quicker than over loving it...

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[Bluf1sh]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with your seedling. Its just a baby, it will grow and its leaves will aim up, then down, then down some more, then up again. If you put a video cam in with them you would see the leaf lift and fall throughout the day. Only tip with FFOF with seedlings is that less is more. Keeping your seedlings a little dry will keep them from absorbing too many nutes from the soil. Everything about your grow seems stable, I have a 25-30 degree swing in my temps from night to day and everything is moving along fine at week 6.

Thanks for the reply! I have a quick question about FFOF and nutes. Their guide says to feed the girl once a week but would you recommend that with their soil? Should I wait till week 3 or 4 to start?

 

[w3rds]

With mine, I just use water for the first 2 weeks, until I transplant to a pot from solo cup, then I used liquid nutes at 1/4 strength and then slowly increase over the weeks. I use smart pots so I have to water ever 3-4 days or my plants get really dry(will attach a pic). So I water with nutes 1 time, then 2 times with just water, then 1 with nutes again. I tried to do more than that and saw nutrient burn show really quickly.

 

[Mikell]

Try to water by weight. Lift a cup after watering and each day after. When it feels roughly half the weight water again. If you have been overwatering, it will dry slowly.

Water cups like that slowly. Watering at the base of the stem will promote damping off. If you notice a thinning of the stem at the soil line, discontinue top watering. Seedlings can be easily bottom watered. Put in a pan with water 1/4-1/3 the depth of the pot, remove and drain just as the soil begins to look moist.

Good luck.

Cheers

 

[Phaeton]

I grew some LSD from Barney's and they looked about like that in the beginning.
Daytime temps run 80-84 in veg and 83-86 in bud. Nights are 70 for veg and 65 for bud. The cool nights seem to yellow up the leaves more at harvest time, warm nights kept the leaves green longer. Dropping to 60 at night yellowed the fan leaves within a week of the cooler temps, way before harvest time.
LSD is a really fine smoking plant, above average potency and smooth flavor.

 

[Bluf1sh]

That's some good info. More than likely I will be running a little hotter than I'd like as we approach summer, especially night time temps

 

[Bluf1sh]

With mine, I just use water for the first 2 weeks, until I transplant to a pot from solo cup, then I used liquid nutes at 1/4 strength and then slowly increase over the weeks. I use smart pots so I have to water ever 3-4 days or my plants get really dry(will attach a pic). So I water with nutes 1 time, then 2 times with just water, then 1 with nutes again. I tried to do more than that and saw nutrient burn show really quickly.

I'll definitely start off at 1/4 and increase from there to see how she holds up. I'm also using smart pots at 3 gallons. I might just end up following the FF nute schedule my first go and hope I don't get nute burn

 

[Mikell]

I've never even seen a bottle of FF but I have seen most of the users complain about burnt plants.

Double what Phaeton said about environment. You will want to gain more control before flowering. Large swings in temperature/RH will favour pathogens, high day temperature will encourage mite reproduction.

 

[Bluf1sh]

My flower tent is a 5x5 so a lot more room however, I am trying to run a raptor with 2k watts but obviously gets pretty hot. I may have to dial it down to try and help. I have my 8" inline fan blowing the hot air through duct runs through the ceiling to vent out the warm air. I've also duct my ce trap ac into the tent but I've yet to run tests on the temps. I am tuning 9 gals in that tent for flower, do those plants add a lot to the heat in the tent once they peaked in? I'm trying to get a good number to.shoot for temp wise before I get them in there

 

[Bluf1sh]

That's suppose to say I've duct my central air into the tent

 

[w3rds]

Here is my current grow. Day 42. 3 gallon smart pots, moved from Solo cups, in FFOF, fed with FF Big Bloom(just worm castings and guano tea really) and Golden Tree at quarter strength, like mentioned before.

 

[Bluf1sh]

I can't wait until they take off like yours. What do you flower then under?

 

[CosmicCharlie]

Fox Farm Ocean Forrest has nutrients built in. A lot of people have problems with seedlings and fresh clones because there is too much nutrients and it can cause nute burn.

I don't recomend feeding any nutes for at least 3 weeks, maybe 4. Also you may be able to just transplant into more FFOF soil and not need any nutes. If you do that just keep an eye on deficiencies. The plants will tell you what they need.

 

[w3rds]

I am flowering under 2 350w LEDs. Probably more than I need for my plants, but Im growing in a pretty open space so I want to make up for a lack of reflective surface.

 

[Bluf1sh]

Hey guy I woke up this morning to check on the girls and it looks like some discoloration on about have of them. It's brownish and they seem to be curling underneath a couple don't look all that well. I've fed them no nutes yet, led was at 16" off but I raised it ro about 20". Been watering only when cup is really light and top inch or so is bone dry. Could this be nitrogen toxicity from the FFOF?

 

[Bluf1sh]

 

[w3rds]

Cant get the image to open bigger than the thumbnail, but looks like it may be minor burn from the soil. Once the roots develop a little more the seedling will be able to handle it fine. Id say stay the course, sounds like youre doing everything right, just keep to your schedule.