First Day of Flower Poll

[Nokturnal]

What do you consider your first day of indoor flowering to be?

First Day of 12/12

First Day they show Sex

 

[Johnny Rotten]

NEITHER...

The correct way that lines up to breeder descriptions and leaves room for indoor/outdoor fluctuation is WHEN YOU SEE FLOWERS FORMING. POST STRETCH.

 

[Nokturnal]

NEITHER...

The correct way that lines up to breeder descriptions and leaves room for indoor/outdoor fluctuation is WHEN YOU SEE FLOWERS FORMING. POST STRETCH.

According to you? Or you got an article or some type of information? I've never really heard that.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

According to most people with a bit of experience. Ask around.

 

[Nokturnal]

According to most people with a bit of experience. Ask around.

I just asked you for some more info on it. Show me something, geez. I've never seen any threads with people going by when flowers start to form due to the fact i've seen so many variations of grow styles and phenos with different traits. Seems strange to me that's all.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

Newbs and there SHOW ME attitude. Why don't you ask the breeders of the strains your growing when they recommend pulling them. Or you can get a loupe and check trich's like everybody else with half a brain and figure it out by yourself.

How does an outdoor grower know when there plant was triggered to flower?

 

[B.C.]

From the first day of 12-12. Most all plants will show their sex if ya jus veg em long enough. BC

 

[Nokturnal]

Newbs and there SHOW ME attitude. Why don't you ask the breeders of the strains your growing when they recommend pulling them. Or you can get a loupe and check trich's like everybody else with half a brain and figure it out by yourself.

How does an outdoor grower know when there plant was triggered to flower?

First off jackass I do check the trichs, you have no idea how I grow. Secondly this isn't a poll asking when I want them pulled, I clearly asked what most people here on these forums go by in a Diaries forum for the first day a flower. NOT Everyone goes by the same rules if you even bother to read peoples shit. Third, Thanks for fucking up my thread instead of a civil discussion. Douchebag.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

Nice neg rep. Your poll is lulzy and newbish anyways. Every clone i've ever ran has had preflowers and they sure as hell ain't flowering.

I'm still surprised by all the experienced people pulling there strains early. If you only had the patience to wait the extra week or two. You'd be heavily rewarded with most strains.

 

[Nokturnal]

Nice neg rep. Your poll is lulzy and newbish anyways. Every clone i've ever ran has had preflowers and they sure as hell ain't flowering.

I'm still surprised by all the experienced people pulling there strains early. If you only had the patience to wait the extra week or two. You'd be heavily rewarded with most strains.

My god you don't even make sense, This thread has nothing to do with harvesting.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

Wow, you have no comprehension skills.

Preflowers have NOTHING to do with flowering. They show the age of the plant, that's it. My moms have preflowers, my clones vegging have preflowers...it doesn't mean SHIT.

So how does an outdoor grower figure out when the first day of flowering is? You forgot to answer. I'll help....it's not when they change the sun to 12/12

Edit: Nice edit, bro. It has EVERYTHING to do with harvesting. ARE YOU SERIOUS? Flowering days given by breeders are TELLING YOU WHEN TO HARVEST. If you start count from 12/12 you could be pulling it two weeks early.

It is strain dependent. Some are fine pulled early, some are completely ruined by it. You need to ask the breeder of each strain your growing what the range of days are for the range of phenotypes.

 

[Nokturnal]

Wow, you have no comprehension skills.

Preflowers have NOTHING to do with flowering. They show the age of the plant, that's it. My moms have preflowers, my clones vegging have preflowers...it doesn't mean SHIT.

So how does an outdoor grower figure out when the first day of flowering is? You forgot to answer. I'll help....it's not when they change the sun to 12/12

Did I fucking type when do you consider your Clones first day of flowering? Nope. Completely different subject man.

Also nice way to flip the whole subject around. Troll elsewhere please.

 

[Nokturnal]

Edit: Nice edit, bro. It has EVERYTHING to do with harvesting. ARE YOU SERIOUS? Flowering days given by breeders are TELLING YOU WHEN TO HARVEST. If you start count from 12/12 you could be pulling it two weeks early.

It is strain dependent. Some are fine pulled early, some are completely ruined by it. You need to ask the breeder of each strain your growing what the range of days are for the range of phenotypes.

Hence not everyone goes by the same rules or breeder description. Some people consider there flowering much longer then others. Reason for the god damn poll. Most people go by trichs as you said yourself.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

Do you understand that different genotypes within strains have different finishing times?

Do you understand that different environments effect flowering times, even on the same clones?

Do you understand how preflowers and a plant showing sex have absolutely nothing to do with a plant flowering hence your whole poll being flawed from the start and pointless?

 

[Nokturnal]

Do you understand that different genotypes within strains have different finishing times?

Do you understand that different environments effect flowering times, even on the same clones?

Do you understand how preflowers and a plant showing sex have absolutely nothing to do with a plant flowering hence your whole poll being flawed from the start and pointless?

I'm convinced you read nothing I post. This is why I posted this poll.

When I flip my plants to 12/12, (that have not been sexed from vegging),
The ones that do not show sex right away take longer to start flower.
The ones that sex quicker, flower much faster, I've never seen different.
Does not mean, one will be ready for harvest before the other due to genotypes.
Now It can take a few weeks after light flip, for those to sex themselves,
Some consider the moment they flip 12/12 without knowing sex the day of flowering.
Yet people seem to consider the day they are sexed after a few weeks of 12/12 the day of flowering.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

I'm convinced you read nothing I post. This is why I posted this poll.

It would help, for future reference, to include info like this in your first post. Just a thought. We aren't mind readers and you actually have to post for us to read. You should work on being more succinct with your posts.

When I flip my plants to 12/12, (that have not been sexed from vegging),
The ones that take longer to finish, do not show sex right away.

You are dealing with immature plants, before they show preflowers

The faster they sex, The faster they go into flowering I've never seen different.

This is true, a plant must be mature before it will flower

Does not mean, one will be done before the other.
Now It can take a few weeks after light flip, for those to sex themselves,
some people consider the day they are sexed, the day of flowering. Get it?

You are flowering young plants too early. You need to wait until they show preflowers before you flower. It has nothing to do with counting days of flowering.

 

[B.C.]

Did you call me a douche bag too? if so why? BC

 

[Nokturnal]

Well I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, and I also apologize. I assume a lot of people on these forums and others must flower immature plants and not realize this either. I was quiet confused on the variation of bud sizes of some peoples photos with counted flowering days. I did not quite take into consideration that aspect of it, and yes my post was vague I jumped the gun, but you did come off a bit rude, ya know? Also no BC I was not calling you a douche bag, thank you for replying, I did not even see your post.

 

[B.C.]

Well, good! lol.... I think it's a standard, everyone goes from the time the photo period gets cut back to 12-12. Otherwise it would be very subjective to ones own opinion. Doesn't really matter though, they're done when they're done, and each will be a lil different. Take care... BC

 

[Maj.PotHead]

Wow, you have no comprehension skills.

Preflowers have NOTHING to do with flowering. They show the age of the plant, that's it. My moms have preflowers, my clones vegging have preflowers...it doesn't mean SHIT.

So how does an outdoor grower figure out when the first day of flowering is? You forgot to answer. I'll help....it's not when they change the sun to 12/12

Edit: Nice edit, bro. It has EVERYTHING to do with harvesting. ARE YOU SERIOUS? Flowering days given by breeders are TELLING YOU WHEN TO HARVEST. If you start count from 12/12 you could be pulling it two weeks early.

It is strain dependent. Some are fine pulled early, some are completely ruined by it. You need to ask the breeder of each strain your growing what the range of days are for the range of phenotypes.

{ If you start count from 12/12 you could be pulling it two weeks early. }
thats what the 60-100 power magnifier is for

this plant is from seed NorCal Goo {fm} x Deep Chunk {m} in the pics she's 24 days of 12/12. now if i count from after stretch shes 10 days flower and that size under 400w light with other plants in the chamber.



i dont think so thats fricken huge if i stat count when flowers start packn which would only be like 10 days in the pic when it's been in flower 24 days. i start count day 1 of 12/12 and use the magnifier on new strains at day 50 the strains from clone i run and keep come down at 50 days except this Goo dc girl shes comen down 65 days. oh yes theres also both lowest bottom branches all bud sites been pollenated heres a top of 1 branch 3 days after pollenation


oh yes she was vegged for approx 8wks and was fully mature when placed into flower