Figuring Timing for Perpetual Grow! HELP

[GrüneErd]

Ok, i'm having some trouble figuring out the timing on the perpetual grow i'm planning, and i'm terrible at math.
I plan on growing Mazar, 2 females from a veg box to a flower box that i'll take 2 clones from apiece. i'll flower out the 2 females and harvest, and continue the 4 clones in a veg box.
before flowering these 4, i'll take one to keep as the new mother plant in a mother box, flower and harvest the other 3. this is to start the cycle.

NOW FOR THE QUESTIONS. A.assuming a one month veg, 2 to 2 and a half month flowering period, how often can i harvest 4 plants this way?
B.how often do i take 4 new clones from the mother to continue the cycle?
C.how do i time this to where i can come as close as possible to "continuously moving 4 clones from cab to cab and harvesting?"

i've mulled over this for hours on end, writing time tables and scratchin through em. the fact that this will be my first grow CANT help this at all, though ive been reading these forums for some months now planning. anyone that can help will be appreciated more than you'll ever know!!!

 

[gladysvjubb]

You'll have to guage it as you go along. Remember these are living things and not subject to a set timetable but rather a guesstimation. You know you want 4 clones every 2 weeks. If all of your clones root, you will have to discard some plants. If not your schedule will be thrown off.
Lets start by assuming you have rooted 4 cuttings off your Mom. If you veg them for 2-3 weeks, you should be taking more cuttings from another Mom when you place the rooted ones under 12/12 in the flower room.
Two weeks later go back to the 1st Mom and take cuttings and root them. After your 2nd batch of 4 are rooted and growing veg for 2 weeks or so place them in the flower room. Now you have 8 plants in the flower room and 4 more rooting.
Two weeks later take more cuttings off the second Mom and continue the cycle. Estimating the cycle you will need enough space for about 24 clones at various stages of 12/12. Then you begin the chop and move the newest clones in. Perpetual gets going by the steady in and out flow of product.
That is under ideal conditions. I'm allowing about 14 weeks from cloning to harvest.
You can jiggy up the proces if after once they are cloned you go straight to 12/12 with no veg time. Your yield will be less, about 5-7 grams dried weight per plant but you'll have a steady stream of pot and you'll be able to pack the plants in closer together and just go for a straight up cola rather than pinching, lst'ing, etc.
REMEMBER - if anything can go wrong it will at the most inopportune time. I run a perpetual grow from seed and just got slammed with 2 Females out of 10 beans when my "plans" call for 5 or more.
I do my growing at 12/12 from seed and start my seedlings around every 2 weeks but nothing is set in stone. Some take longer to finish. Some seeds don't pop, some runs will give you 8 females some runs will give you 2.
The main thing is to get started and be very flexable. I have 40-45 plants in various stages at all times, so it takes a bit of watching and work.
Get growing, it's very rewarding!

 

[GrüneErd]

thank you so much! this response is exactly what i was hoping for.
SO. assuming i have a 400w hps/mh in my flowering cab, the cab should be big enough to sustain what..at max 8 plants in various stages of flowering?

right now i figure my veg space to be around 2.5ftL x 2.5ftW x 3-4ftH, using various CFLs. this is flexible though and open to suggestions. my flowering space is pretty much gonna have to be no bigger than 4ft. x 4 x 4, with a 400w hps/mh and ventilation. how big would you reccomend?
i now fully understand the concept, just unsure of AT MAX how many plants will be in each box at any given time, and this info is vital to how big i build each of them.

and is a veg box even necessary? ive read much about 12/12 from seed, and think that a mother, clone, and flowering cab would work fine..like once rooted, the cuttings can just be put on 12/12 in the flowering box. sounds like one less thing to build eh?

 

[gladysvjubb]

thank you so much! this response is exactly what i was hoping for.
SO. assuming i have a 400w hps/mh in my flowering cab, the cab should be big enough to sustain what..at max 8 plants in various stages of flowering?

right now i figure my veg space to be around 2.5ftL x 2.5ftW x 3-4ftH, using various CFLs. this is flexible though and open to suggestions. my flowering space is pretty much gonna have to be no bigger than 4ft. x 4 x 4, with a 400w hps/mh and ventilation. how big would you reccomend?
i now fully understand the concept, just unsure of AT MAX how many plants will be in each box at any given time, and this info is vital to how big i build each of them.

and is a veg box even necessary? ive read much about 12/12 from seed, and think that a mother, clone, and flowering cab would work fine..like once rooted, the cuttings can just be put on 12/12 in the flowering box. sounds like one less thing to build eh?

24 Plants at various stages of growth and ultimatly death would fit in a 4x4 space powered by a 400 W growing straight up with some lower lateral branching. Once they are rooted and have as much veg time on them that you want, move them to the flowering room.
A veg box would not be needed if you move the cuttings, once rooted and transplanted into a 6 inch standard pot under the 12/12 400 W HPS bulb. Keep them about 18 inches away from the bulb. You'll be moving the lighting up a bit as they grow. As new cuttings are introduced, use boxes to elevate the new pots on to keep an even canopy.

 

[Guest]

Your first questions deal with yield. Concentrate on technique.

It is hard to guess a perpetual grows needs,. It requires knowledge, that "stuff" we find in books, the kind written by people respected in the Canna World.

I read a lot, Do You?

TyStik

 

[GrüneErd]

i read quite a bit, yes. multiple hours on here daily for multiple months, thanks for the sarcasm. BUT. thank you very much gladys for your help, i appreciate it VERY MUCH. and yes, i know, i just gotta start growin and see how it works out, which im sure will be much better thanks to the input given to me