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Fermented plant extracts

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from the Nastati book

TANSY:

INFUSION or DECOCTION

leaf and root

300 g (of fresh material) or 30 g (of dry substance) in 10 liters of water.

Without dilution spray on the plants regularly throughout the year.

Controls insects, ants, soil caterpillars, leaf caterpillars and root aphids.
Spray in spring and fall against strawberry and blackberry mites.
Spray to control apple worm and moth during emergence.
 

heady blunts

prescription blunts
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has anyone read the book 'Plantas Para Curar Plantas'?
it's all about fermented and other types of plant extacts (macerations, decoctions, infusions)
seems some europeans have been doing this for aeons, and searching google for these terms in european languages can be quite fruitful

i just typed it in a new tab to save for later and the first link is a PDF of the whole book!

Plantas para Curar Plantas
 
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SeaMaiden

New plant is coming up that I haven't tried to identify. It comes up at this time every year. VERY fragrant, has short, sticky trichomes, and makes bright yellow flowers. I think it's a good candidate for experimentation. Its scent when fresh is wonderful, I wish I could describe it, but there is something definitely citrus-y about it.
 
Well, I've got a tree in my backyard that's about done. I forget what is killing her but ants seem to be all over the poor girl.

Tanzy tea is gonna be sprayed on them when I get home. Let you guys know what happens.
 

ixnay007

"I can't remember the last time I had a blackout"
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New plant is coming up that I haven't tried to identify. It comes up at this time every year. VERY fragrant, has short, sticky trichomes, and makes bright yellow flowers. I think it's a good candidate for experimentation. Its scent when fresh is wonderful, I wish I could describe it, but there is something definitely citrus-y about it.

Pineapple Chamomile?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matricaria_discoidea
 
Large yellow jacket nest hidden between my foundation and front steps. Jammed a piece of drip edge against the foundation so I could pour Tanzy into their hole. Really pissed them off but they were still alive today.

I will kill those bastards the all natural way yet. BTW, I would let them live but I can't water my veggie garden cuz they live next to my water spigot.
 

ixnay007

"I can't remember the last time I had a blackout"
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Natural?

90% alcohol + lit match.

That or a nice concentrate of pyrethrin.

The alcohol is less damaging to surrounding wildlife though.
 

Dkgrower

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seems some europeans have been doing this for aeons, and searching google for these terms in european languages can be quite fruitful

Yea, the German Rudolf Steiner laid the foundation off biodynaic growing..

And in his books or from his students there are a hole range off usefull info and intersting reading
 

Aotf

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Large yellow jacket nest hidden between my foundation and front steps. Jammed a piece of drip edge against the foundation so I could pour Tanzy into their hole. Really pissed them off but they were still alive today.

I will kill those bastards the all natural way yet. BTW, I would let them live but I can't water my veggie garden cuz they live next to my water spigot.


Drown those bastards, thats a natural way to kill em....it would be tough to be a buddhist and gardner :ying:
 
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SeaMaiden

Drown those bastards, thats a natural way to kill em....it would be tough to be a buddhist and gardner :ying:

Drowning yellow jackets, hornets, and meat bees is kind of difficult. They sport water wings, floaties or somethin'. Seriously, I've tried. You've gotta REALLY knock them down into the water and hold them there.
 
Well, I can't go and set my house on fire. I can't even see the damn nest to drown them either. I can stick a 1/2" hose into their hole. Plant ID book has plenty of plants in there that are deemed poisonous. I'll get those bastards yet.

Tanzy did take care of the ants around the old tree though.
 

Buddah Watcha

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Hey guys, I got a question for all the FPE experts :)

So i did my first brew, 2 cups of alfafa and 2 cups of kelp meal with 4 gallons of water. Let it sit for 10 days and I removed the solids which went to the worm bin. The liquid is pretty stinky with some crost of some gooey slime on top. I assume is ready for use, right?

Can I just leave this on the open and use it whenever or do I have to cover it up and open when I want to use?

I've been mixing 2 cups to 4-5gallons of water, fed the veggie garden and things seem fine. Should I go a bit stronger for the herbs?

Thanks in advance! :thank you:

Peace!
 

Oregonism

Active member
Buddha, I find that it is like fresh juice. Leave it out in room temp for a few hours or few days and fuzzys start to grow. I like to keep mine in containers where I can seal out oxygen and I try to keep it cool, but not refrig temp, although that would be one great option for storage. There is active micro-life inhibiting your brew and they will start to consume.....


Sometimes, the more fermented it gets, the longer it takes to spoil as well [even @ room temp].
 
Drown those bastards, thats a natural way to kill em....it would be tough to be a buddhist and gardner :ying:

It is tough but you have to be tougher to do what is best for the environment. Yellow jackets have their place in the ecosystem too. I don't consider myself the owner of my "yard". Thankfully I am not allergic to stings so getting stung is not a problem or a fear for me. I disturbed some yellow jackets yesterday and a handful flew up in front me and just hovered there. I walked off calmly and while I did a couple flew by my head. I gave them their space and it turned out well. Mosquitoes must all die, and I'll kill ants if they get out of hand but they usually don't if I don't give them a reason. There are always some pests to a degree in the garden but I like to treat them on a case by case basis. If natural predators aren't doing a good enough job controlling them then I'll sort of spot treat a problem area. This is very time consuming and would be hard to maintain on a large scale but it works for me.
 

Oregonism

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I was just reading somewheres that yellow jackets possibly are predators to harmful insects in the yard. I always let them fly around me and feel my vibe. They say that they can scent memory mark you as foe/friend.

Need to read up more about it. I say all mites must die until after harvest.
 

Dkgrower

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Dont kill those Yellow jacks, i dont get why u cant just let them be unless there are in the way from children.

If u want them to move u want to stress them into moving, but rember they need to live some where and they do a very big task fore us....

Regarding there diet, The larvae eat insects and insect larvae that have been captured by the adults and brought back to the nest, so they are on oure side and good to have in the garden

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_yellow_jacket's_diet#ixzz26oOJmsuJ
 
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SeaMaiden

Drowning yellow jackets, hornets, and meat bees is kind of difficult. They sport water wings, floaties or somethin'. Seriously, I've tried. You've gotta REALLY knock them down into the water and hold them there.

Well, I can't go and set my house on fire. I can't even see the damn nest to drown them either. I can stick a 1/2" hose into their hole. Plant ID book has plenty of plants in there that are deemed poisonous. I'll get those bastards yet.

Tanzy did take care of the ants around the old tree though.

It is tough but you have to be tougher to do what is best for the environment. Yellow jackets have their place in the ecosystem too. I don't consider myself the owner of my "yard". Thankfully I am not allergic to stings so getting stung is not a problem or a fear for me. I disturbed some yellow jackets yesterday and a handful flew up in front me and just hovered there. I walked off calmly and while I did a couple flew by my head. I gave them their space and it turned out well. Mosquitoes must all die, and I'll kill ants if they get out of hand but they usually don't if I don't give them a reason. There are always some pests to a degree in the garden but I like to treat them on a case by case basis. If natural predators aren't doing a good enough job controlling them then I'll sort of spot treat a problem area. This is very time consuming and would be hard to maintain on a large scale but it works for me.

Funny y'all should mention this again. After the Year of the Deer Flies, we leave most hornet, yellow jacket and wasp nests. However, lots are built inside the dog's house and inside the deck railings. Last week I did a really stupid thing. It was after 8pm, everything was asleep, I'm out on the back deck with the cat and I find a fireplace lighter my husband uses to light the grill. I knew that there was a nest in between two 'risers' of the deck railing (I can't remember what they're called), so I light the lighter and hold it under the first area and

ALL THESE FUCKING WASPS COME POURING OUT AND START FLYING AROUND!

The cat takes one look and BAILS. I'm standing there and go, "Ooooooohhh SHIIIIITTT!" as the cat's looking at me from afar going, "Dude. That was stupid. Hope you get away."

Easily over a dozen big wasps were tending that nest. Which explains why the last time I was hanging out back there with my folks it seemed like this 'one' wasp was always in our faces. It wasn't one wasp, it was a shit-ton of wasps.

Anyway, the deer flies can get really bad out here, and the year we made war on all the stinging things our dogs paid the price in bloodied ears and biting fly-driven insanity. I'll never do that again.
 

minds_I

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Hello all,

Yellowjackets are your friend.

Couple weeks ago I saw a YJ be-head a honey bee and fly off with it.

Thought it was kewl, mother nature and all, but it is actually to my benifit.

Honey bees pollenate pot plants as well as all others right. Its all kewl till you find a random seed in your buds (like I did the other day). But that can be from any insect really.

Just a short note...next year, you guys pull the males before they pollenate more plants.

minds_I
 
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