Fem Chemmy Jones.. Balls everywhere

[zachrockbadenof]

that sucks... I'm with you, the $$$ spent is not the worry.. its the months spent growing em

our only exp. in growing fem's was yrs ago where we snagged a pack of abusive kush from... rez... as with your experience, they were not hermi's, they were full blown males, with balls exploding everywhere ..

ruined 4months of growing...

 

[jammie]

For the last 5-6 years the only plants I've grown have been feminized hybrids. Never had any balls or nanners. This has included several of ojd's strains. His grateful Casey where some of my best ever. Anyways- I always use dutchmasters reverse, keep Nute levels reasonable and check at different times of 12/12 to check for any light leaks

 

[944s2]

For the last 5-6 years the only plants I've grown have been feminized hybrids. Never had any balls or nanners. This has included several of ojd's strains. His grateful Casey where some of my best ever. Anyways- I always use dutchmasters reverse, keep Nute levels reasonable and check at different times of 12/12 to check for any light leaks

hey jammie,,,,,
nail on head brother and another who has been using feminizer/reverse,,,,been using it for years,,always multi strain usually fem bean only, never no seeds,,,,,
been looking at my albums/runs over the years,,,,,39 cheese and chong,,,,strawberrys and cream,,,,,cheezedog,,,,chemmy jones etc,,,whole runs made up of different csg strains,,,,,all with juicy finished pics,,,,,
light leaks are devastating,,,amazing how far a tiny light leak can travel in a totally dark room,,,,,s2

 

[JamieShoes]

I've also been growing mostly fems for the last few years (mostly from sann1e) only herm I had was a nep jam from Ace, but all their other stuff was fine..


edit: back on topic... I'm about to run my first csg beans, a lemchem cheesedog test run (regs) so all this is on topic to me

 

[944s2]

I've also been growing mostly fems for the last few years (mostly from sann1e) only herm I had was a nep jam from Ace, but all their other stuff was fine..


edit: back on topic... I'm about to run my first csg beans, a lemchem cheesedog test run (regs) so all this is on topic to me

hey Jamie,,,,very best of luck with those,,,,,be really interesting to see what smells and especially tastes ya be getting from those,,,
subbed when ya start a thread or if ya start one,,,,
poxy cheese hybrid I am presently puffing on makes me feel tired,,,
another reason I am not a cheese lover but crossed with lemon hopefully get more of a creative/happy high instead of that heavy stone,,,,but its that or lemon and I have a 24 mile round trip if I want the lemon,,,,,,s2

 

[JamieShoes]

Cheers S2

Really looking forward to them as it happens.. been quietly watching since OJ found his SSSDH keeper way back when ... hoping to find all kinds of lemony fuelly funkyness in these

I know what you mean about that cheese hit too... like some kind of herbal valium..tasty, but very tiring ...lol

 

[WeetisPotPie]

Sorry about your hermies. Maybe the place you got em duped you. Did they
come in the breeders packs?
I am running East Coast Cookies and SSSDH, I'm about 8 1/2 weeks in, no balls or nanners,
I'm pheno hunting so I don't baby the plants at all and all are fem seeds.
If nothing else you learned a lesson I did years ago, I always make sure any seed plants I
run, feminized or regular show sex before I flip them. Sometimes it takes lots of
patience other times they are easy.
I would contact OJ, he is a very active member and I'm sure would be glad to help you.
Good luck and hope it all works out for you.

 

[zooty]

Sorry about your hermies. Maybe the place you got em duped you. Did they
come in the breeders packs?
I am running East Coast Cookies and SSSDH, I'm about 8 1/2 weeks in, no balls or nanners,
I'm pheno hunting so I don't baby the plants at all and all are fem seeds.
If nothing else you learned a lesson I did years ago, I always make sure any seed plants I
run, feminized or regular show sex before I flip them. Sometimes it takes lots of
patience other times they are easy.
I would contact OJ, he is a very active member and I'm sure would be glad to help you.
Good luck and hope it all works out for you.

Nah bro I buy a lot of stuff from this place it's local to me and they know me well. Lol what's the point in buying fems if you need to sex them, that's the only reason I'd run fems because it's a bitch to sex plants in hydro and isn't that what the whole fem seed market is about.. 99% female plants so they say.

Lucky I spotted the balls before I went away on holiday I would of come back to a fully pollinated room. Lesson learned any way this is why I try and stick to trusted clones but I was bored of the same old genetics and wanted something new to enjoy

 

[Dr. BHaze74]

Nah bro I buy a lot of stuff from this place it's local to me and they know me well. Lol what's the point in buying fems if you need to sex them, that's the only reason I'd run fems because it's a bitch to sex plants in hydro and isn't that what the whole fem seed market is about.. 99% female plants so they say.

Lucky I spotted the balls before I went away on holiday I would of come back to a fully pollinated room. Lesson learned any way this is why I try and stick to trusted clones but I was bored of the same old genetics and wanted something new to enjoy

1. Stating weak genetics as a cause of hermis is a non educated statement. Neither of those parent plants were hermi leaning to start with, so to state weak genetics is a bit naive. Which attributes of the genetic background are you labeling "weak"?
2. Fem seed hermi rates can be influenced by method. OJD uses silver, that's the least likely to select for hermi traits.
3. If all your seeds went hermis, I'd look at what light schedules you were using for stress moments when changing schedules. Did you go 24 hr then something else before flip? I'd also look into your nutes, pushing plants too hard can drive hermis too. Excessive heat will too. You said your using gravitas. Those are heat bombs.
3. Fems can show balls very early, but will disappear as you get deeper in flower. Out of the hundreds of Fems I have run, only 2-3 went full herm and it was my fault cause I stressed them.

What I have learned over and over is stress drives hermis and often growers don't realize they have a stress factor in the garden. If your using Fems, you have to be on point with stress management.

Anyways, too bad that happened, but maybe try not to be a prick about it. OJD is one of the last honest breeders, do bashing him ain't the answer.

Good luck on your next attempt.

 

[Dr. BHaze74]

Nah bro I buy a lot of stuff from this place it's local to me and they know me well. Lol what's the point in buying fems if you need to sex them, that's the only reason I'd run fems because it's a bitch to sex plants in hydro and isn't that what the whole fem seed market is about.. 99% female plants so they say.

Lucky I spotted the balls before I went away on holiday I would of come back to a fully pollinated room. Lesson learned any way this is why I try and stick to trusted clones but I was bored of the same old genetics and wanted something new to enjoy

Also, to expect that fem seeds don't need attention sexing is not realistic. Biology isn't a perfect system and weird shit can happen. Always watch your shit, unidentified stress can wreck a crop.

 

[Dr. BHaze74]

For the last 5-6 years the only plants I've grown have been feminized hybrids. Never had any balls or nanners. This has included several of ojd's strains. His grateful Casey where some of my best ever. Anyways- I always use dutchmasters reverse, keep Nute levels reasonable and check at different times of 12/12 to check for any light leaks

Dump the Reverse, use Florel. Same product, 1/10 the price.

 

[944s2]

Dump the Reverse, use Florel. Same product, 1/10 the price.

hey doc,,,,
is florel available in the uk?,,,,
reverse is £15 per litre ,,,,
peace and regards 944s2

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

.it should also be noted that anything with chemdog in it is a potential hermi risk...

Jamie is one hundred percent correct, every single chem hybrid I've ever run, from various breeders, has thrown male flowers on the lower nodes during the first few weeks of flowering. This is a trait of chem genetics, particularly with low light levels. The plants aren't true intersex, and the pollen if you find any is mostly sterile. I've probably found one or two immature seeds, but it's nothing to worry about.

It's shocking to see male flowers and I agree I freaked out when it first happened, but learnt from growing chem hybrids over the years that it's an inevitability and won't endanger your sensi crop.

ojd has posted about this many times. Buyer/Grower beware.

Peace

 

[The Pheonix]

well said Piff..... . I'll have some on the go with chem genetics soon so hope there's no issues but i had some on the rainbow j at the lower nodes but only one single mature seed came of it CSG genetics have been good to me upto now....

 

[zooty]

It's easy to blame hermies on stress, but when I see every plant from the pack growing full on balls I put that down to weak genetics. I have everything pretty much dialed I keep EC low and the PH doesn't fluctuate along with oversized fans to deal with heat. If everything else in the garden is fine and thriving then I can only blame the genetics because I have done everything else the same.

OJD may be a good breeder, what made me buy these were the pics I've seen on here of his strains but I guess I've just had a bad experience. But any breeders knocking out so many strains cannot be doing the kind of testing to truly stabilize a strain in my honest opinion.

But here's a 14oz plant that was fully female

 

[Dr. BHaze74]

It's easy to blame hermies on stress, but when I see every plant from the pack growing full on balls I put that down to weak genetics. I have everything pretty much dialed I keep EC low and the PH doesn't fluctuate along with oversized fans to deal with heat. If everything else in the garden is fine and thriving then I can only blame the genetics because I have done everything else the same.

OJD may be a good breeder, what made me buy these were the pics I've seen on here of his strains but I guess I've just had a bad experience. But any breeders knocking out so many strains cannot be doing the kind of testing to truly stabilize a strain in my honest opinion.

But here's a 14oz plant that was fully female

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Well, you have a right your opinion, obviously, and only you can attest to your growing style, so if you feel you have all of it covered, then have at it with blaming genetics. Maybe Femed Chem crosses aren't for you. I have seen examples of hermis in differing grow styles where 1 is all female, the other struggles with more male flowers. Same plant, different methods, different outcomes. Genetics are awesome with the possibilities, but both bad traits and good traits will show up.

That said, the data out there argues otherwise given the large number of successful grow out of this strain and its parents. Just so you are aware of what most readers here know about OJD.

If your looking for an awesome Chem seed strain from OJD, get his OG Chem. regular beans easy to sex, and Rock star quality.

Anyways, anytime you rock Fem seeds, use Florel and hermis will never be a problem.

 

[Dr. BHaze74]

hey doc,,,,
is florel available in the uk?,,,,
reverse is £15 per litre ,,,,
peace and regards 944s2

I don't know. I got it off eBay. It's cheap.

 

[944s2]

I don't know. I got it off eBay. It's cheap.

thanks for that doc,,seems its only available in the US,,,,with shipping fee but could still work out cheaper,,,
I need to do a bit homework,,,,,
peace and regards 944s2

 

[Picarus]

So all of you guys claiming to never have problems with male flowers on female plants are spraying hormones? How can you do that and claim so and so is a great breeder? The breeder may be honest and a great person but as Zooty said, having that many new "strains" year in and year out is not the same as working a line down and creating a new strain. The breeder is pollen chucking using clone only's and reversing. If you have to spray hormone to have "zero problems" you have a problem. Thats why you sprayed the hormone!

 

[944s2]

for me,,i started using feminizer [now named reverse] around 12 or so years ago when fem beans started to appear and their wasn't the information available like now plus they were a bit of a "unknown oddity".....
been using it ever since because I feel re-assured plus I run multi strain and sometimes theres not much information on lesser known strains so its like "covering my back" just in case,,,,,,
do peeps subscribe to the idea that a room full of females and there need to pro-create plus factor in "nature" could result in plants going to the darkside?,,,,,I often have wondered that,,,,
peace and regards,,,,944s2