Everlasting Pitbull Propaganda (rant)

[Pops]

Actually, Chamba , I used to live in central Florida,but now live in Socal,in a Mexican neighborhood.

 

[Guest]

I'm constantly babysitting my moms anymore,chicky the chickster chickaroony doony.He constantly harasses Jerry the dog my 80 pound shepherd.And don't go near him when he's napping.They were bred to bring down large game in 500-600 member packs so I'd say for pops...500-600 hahahaha

 

[Pops]

Bring the little bastards on. I have a large grill and a big freezer. These boots were made for stomping!!!

 

[backwoodburner]

Now would you call a Police dog that is trained to chase someone down and attack them and stop upon owners command a mean dog? or would you call it a well trained dog? Pits are so smart they will pick up on anything you got goin on.If you have alot of violence in your home chances are your pit is gonna be a bit mean or edgy. they need alot of attention. Pits get a bad rep for their owners mistakes. Dont take a pit in a one bedroom apt. just dont do it. chains are bad too.You have to understand that there are higher risks having a pit other than another dog. They CAN do alot of damage with their jaws and can be a very aggressive dog, but you teach to use that aggressiveness in other manners, such as running or playing with other dogs or toys. I got my pit at 6 weeks and he loves my other 3 dogs and is next to me 15 hours outta the day . Great dog Great breed.

 

[Ganico]

They CAN do alot of damage with their jaws and can be a very aggressive dog, but you teach to use that aggressiveness in other manners, such as running or playing with other dogs or toys.

Well, first off, let me dispell that whole "pitbull jaw" myth. They do not have special jaws, they are not space-dogs. The reason a pit can "lock" is simply due to having DULL TEETH. Compare most any other common breed's teeth with a pit's teeth. A German Shepard for example has skinnier pointier teeth which break off much easier. THAT'S where the "jaw" myth came from. Pitbulls teeth just don't break as easily cause they are broader and duller than most dogs.

(not too be confused with puppie's "milk teeth" which are much sharper as puppies than a grown pit )


But you got that last part right, about the "aggressiveness". Note, there's also a difference between "aggressiveness" and "gameness". A "game" dog is not the same as an aggressive dog. Really, it's hard to translate and you gotta really just know what the difference is, either that or have better communication skills than me, haha. But yeah, pitbulls are naturally HIGH ENERGY WORK DOGS, they also LOVE a challenge. They really require plenty of exercise for stability. Every pitbull whether indoor or outdoor should have at least around an hour of exercise or "play" time outdoors every day. Either that or until they wear themselves out from playing and are too tired to keep on and just want to lay down.


But I don't give a damn what nobody says, they ain't evil or means dogs, or stupid. They are honestly the smartest, most loyal, and most athletic dogs that you can find.


I was reading these posts I found through google over at seanhannity.com (or whatever the hell that guy on the news' name is) and all these people were talking about how in their community a bunch of people would sneak into pit owner's backyards and slip the dogs a pan of antifreeze. They kept droning on about pitbulls being stupid and having a brain the "size of a golfball" and just a bunch of other crazy shit. If anyone ever tried to slip my dogs antifreeze they would never be the same person again, that's all I know.

 

[Verite]

No offense but the dogs teeth have nothing to do with the breeds ability to appear like it has un-natural locking ability. The dog gets that from being bred for a trait called 'gameness' which is defined as " The desire to continue on and/or complete a task despite pain and discomfort. " Haveing a head full of muscle doesnt hurt either. Most people think pits fight because they want to or like to but the reality is they only want to please their masters, regardless of the cost.

Some people also wouldnt know 60 from 130 pounds when it comes at you looking like this.

 

[CannaBullies]

Beautiful Bullies people...I wouldnt own another breed..I have 3 that stay inside..with 3 cats and Baby squirrel...never an issue inside..Now outside is another story..it's on like donkey kong with anything that runs...Like Kids you get what you teach them..My oldest weighs 92 at 2 years old and his son weighs in at 85 at 1 year old..the Grandfather was 107 and thats the biggest APBT i've come across..130...yeah with the chain on it maybe..

 

[Ganico]

No offense but the dogs teeth have nothing to do with the breeds ability to appear like it has un-natural locking ability. The dog gets that from being bred for a trait called 'gameness'

Well I think gameness is part of it, but their teeth are just not as shrap and won't chip or break nearly as easily as most "common" breeds of dogs. There are certainly plenty on non-game pitbulls that can still "lock", so I wouldn't say it was just due to gameness.

 

[Chamba]

here's a short history of American Pit Bulls

http://www.pitbullregistry.com/Pit Bull History.htm

basically, they were bred from British fighting dogs in the 18th century......

I'd imagine they would be good for pig hunting

 

[fr33th3w33d]

Dude, i got a doberman pinscher. bred and flown from Germany.. im in the same boat as the Pit owners..

dobermans are the most loyal, sweetest dogs ever.. if you are in the family or a friend of the family it will show you nothing but love and devotion. if your a meter man or an intruder.. you dont need to see the schloman shield on my house.

but when i bring him out anywhere people recoil and make an extra effort to avoid us.. dumbasses.

its a shame that big dogs are discriminated against. better than annoying chihuahas and terriers that have Napolean complexes and need to bite and bark at everything that passes.

 

[THCzr]

nice dogs guys, love the pics, figure i'll share too.

i love pitbulls.

mine is always up for play time, but his favorite time of day is bedtime, when he gets to sleep in bed with me and the woman. He is my companion, and mine and my girls guardian. he would do anything for us.

THC

 

[Verite]

Well I think gameness is part of it, but their teeth are just not as shrap and won't chip or break nearly as easily as most "common" breeds of dogs. There are certainly plenty on non-game pitbulls that can still "lock", so I wouldn't say it was just due to gameness.

I have never seen any pit that didnt display high levels of gameness. I also couldnt find any info to back the theory that pits have different teeth than common dogs. The only info seems to be centered on the gameness levels of the dog. Heres a link that focuses on it.

http://stason.org/TULARC/animals/do...rriers-breed/12-What-exactly-is-gameness.html

And heres a link where senior researchers point to the teeth/jaws being no different than other breeds.

.. According to Dr. I. Brisbin, a senior researcher at the University of Georgia.

“ The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different from that of any breed of dog.

There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of 'locking mechanism' unique to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier. ” ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

.....yeah but Rotties have a 300lb plus bite force........


.....now where is that bite test on youtube gone?......they compared German Shepherds......Pit-Bulls and Rotties.....oh and Hyena's too......hmmmm...

 

[Jack D Ripper]

Heres my bro's dog. I think shes pit bull + black lab, but Im not sure. Shes a stray he found in some redwood forest in CA. Probably the smartest dog Ive ever met

 

[Chamba]

I have never seen any pit that didnt display high levels of gameness. I also couldnt find any info to back the theory that pits have different teeth than common dogs.

their teeth and jaws are no different...it's the way they lock onto that generally sets them apart from other breeds...most of other dogs are were bred as hunting, retrieving, guarding or as pets....APB and their ancesters the English bull terriors were bred as fighting dogs

American pit bulls were bred and developed from English bull terriors a hundred ~ one hundred and fifty or more years ago.......bull terriors will naturally hold and lock onto things, I used to play with a mate of mine's EBT...we would play fight with a section of car tyre, once he got hold of it you could lift him up in the air, shake him, kick or punch him in guts etc (in a nice way), swing him is fast circles and nothing would make him let go..they do this naturally...I used to do the same with a length of 2x4, but he ate it....dog fighting dogs don't snap and cut, they hold, lock and do deep damage and kill..they have been bred this way.

 

[DeOppressoLiber]

Man, the media sure loves hype mongering, huh? Haha, nothing new though. But anyway, I was watching CNN "Headline Prime" or whatever the hell headline news CNN is late night, and they had some hysterical women in tears (except they didn't show her face, but she was audibly crying as she was speaking) talking about how she threw her baby in a trashcan when a neighbors "pitbull" broke out of the backyard fence. They then went into to detail the horrible event and how the 130 lb dog attacked them or tried to attack them or whatever. And then went on to say the only right thing would be to have this "pitbull" put to sleep.

Anyway, what I want to know is where are all these goddamn 100-150lb pitbulls at I keep hearing about in the media (it was probably a mastiff or even a goddamn rhodesian ridgeback or some shit, that's way more likely than a pitbull). I'm in the heart of pitbull country, all through the deep south, you'll find pits. Classic american work dog. But I've never seen anywhere near a 100lb pitbull. 75lbs for a male pit is ****ing huge, and that's about as big as it gets and that's for a fairly fat pitbull. 60-65lbs is average, and that's for males. Females are generally smaller. Pits are medium sized dogs, folks.

Bottom line is every dumbass that gets bitten by a dog, needs to stop calling it a "pitbull" just because they think pitbulls are mean scary dogs, so if they got attacked it must have been by a pitbull.


130lb pitbull? Get the **** out of here.

There are many 115lb+ American Pit Bull Terriers that I have seen. I am a dog trainer (agility, weight pulling, herding, flyball), and I have two APBTs (one is 96lb PURE BREED, the other 58lb pure breed), two Border Collies, and one Boxer/Hound mix. I love all of my dogs, and the 35lb 12 year old Border Collie is the alpha. I completely agree on punishing the deed, not the breed, but there are a few facts that should be shared here I think. The APBT has been bred for hundreds of years to be a fighting dog. Before that it was a bull baiting dog. Over those years APBT lines that were bred for dog fighting were also trained not to harm humans (the handler is the one who pulls the dogs apart). Other lines of APBTs have been bred for guard dog duties and trained to be aggressive to humans. These are not the fault of the dog, but still make for SOME animals bloodlines to show human aggressiveness. If there is a human aggressive dog that CAN NOT be isolated and handled accordingly then the only humane option is to put the dog down. This does not mean every dog, regardless of breed should be put down for attacking a human, this can only be on a case by case basis.

APBTs get a bad rep because of humans involvement with their bloodline. Hence the name American Staffordshire Terrier, 200+ years ago they started breeding APBTs for show, and pets, this was the name given. I don't care what anyone says, APBTs and AmStaffs are the same ****ing thing PHYSICALLY. Breed out the aggressiveness, and punish dog fighters, and guard dog owners much more severely and this will not be the case.


edit...it all comes down to the three Ts... training, treatment, and temperment (genetic). The most aggressive breed overall IMPO is a Cocker Spaniel.

another edit: there is not such a thing as a locking jaw. The dog simply doesn't want to let go, and he is stronger and more steadfast than the human.

 

[smily]

pit bulls are like guns and most other potentially dangerous things......they seem to only be bad or dangerous when in stupid, untrained hands whit no care or regaurd to what it or they are really capable of.

 

[gamehaze]

why do we start a campaign to save pitbulls from propoganda cos they are amazin animals then we can spread the truth about president bush and hopefully put him down lol only jokin we luv u bush really and ur evil campains

 

[Srgt.Stadenko]

pitbulls are bred to kill thats why they were bred. To many pit bull attacks and if you look at the people who own pitbulls why are they MOSTLY the scum of society who only have pit bulls as a symbol.PitBulls, except for last year, avg'ed the most human fatalities annually for many many years WORLDWIDE. PitBulls in most cases are highly aggressive towards ANY animal, no matter what kind, number, or size. PitBulls are one of the most dominant and powerful mammals out there. They have the most solidity and defined musculature of any dog breed, or animal for that matter. They ARE THE MOST GAME ANIMALS ON THE PLANET. Gameness as a quality means never backing down, fighting to the death even with missing limbs and eyes, and always wanting to quarrel with another animal. Determination goes hand-in-hand with GAMENESS, and I doubt that there is any animal with as much determination as an American Pit Bull Terrier. Pit Bulls are also impervious to pain, with a staggeringly high thresh-hold for it. They have the strongest bite-grip of ALL dog breeds, as well as ANY mammal in the animal kingdom. They have an up-front generated bite strength (capacity) of anywhere between 2,000 PSI - 2,600 PSI. I have heard reports of these numbers even hitting the 3,000's in provocation sustained tests using a PSI measuring sleeve. Even 2,000 PSI can crush a human skull, very easily. Pits have a propensity towards aggression, as they were originally bred to fight bulls and bears. Pits can be molded very easily, meaning you control how they act almost 100% of the time, that is if you are strong enough for this kind of dog. When Pits lock down their powerful jaws, think of a trash-compactor with teeth, to get the general idea. They can break bones like toothpicks, and bite deeply into the bone through the muscle. Most dog breeds can't even bite through or even deep into the muscle !! When a Pit has a good hold (lock), sometimes, they can stay suspended in mid-air for up to an hour or more. I have a red-nosed APBT that can hold onto a rope from a tree for around 40 minutes, kicking and shaking his head almost the hole time. The PSI measurement, assuming the back molars were ONLY doing the biting or gripping, is 280,000 lbs. of pressure per square inch, possibly even more. This almost 300% PSI increase is only because any mammal or animals back molars can crush or bite up to and over 120x the bite pressure that the front to mid teeth can produce in pressure strength. Pits are, by nature, the most experienced and most effective fighting dogs ever produced. Pits fight longer, more effectively, and better than any animal that I can name. Pits are highly athletic as well --- Verticling an 8ft. fence won't be a problem. If you've ever been ramsacked by an excited or even aggressive Pit Bull, then you are quite aware that even this medium sized dog can, without a doubt, bring even a Pro. Football LineBacker down to the ground......... assuming medium height, usually applying it's weight towards the lower torso or pelvis, and knocking you hard off your feet onto the ground. I own 2 red-nosed APBT's, I have plenty of experience with Pits. I also obtained my ACCURATE PSI measurements from Cornell University Professors and Berkely Professors during their time of research on carnivore jaw and tooth development, both professors have their Phd's. Pit Bulls are also excellent at weight-pulling, being able to pull 4,000 lb. sleds over 20 yds in competitions. American Pit Bulls are the strongest dog of ALL dog breeds, regardless of their 30-75 lb. size........ even though I've seen them get up to and over 130 lbs !....... check http://www.landofthegiants.com for any doubters. Are "PITS" dangerous, YES ! Mostly towards animals though, less towards humans. Do Pit Bulls make good house pets ? Almost always the case, NOPE. They should be kept outside in their respective kennels or dog houses. I have encountered my friend's pits before, 2 of which, wouldn't harm a fly and are flops, or currs........ meaning too loveable or scared to fight or show maximum aggression. Bottom line, Pits are very very very, have I stressed VERY enough ?? --- DANGEROUS ANIMALS !! If you do want a pit down the road............ raise it from a pup, socialize it with people and other animals the day that you get it, go with a female gender (gentler), and baby it as much as possible with love...... if it gets out of hand, punish it without abusing it. Let it know who's boss. My friend has a 2 month old AMSTAFF/RED-NOSE APBT cross that has humped my leg twice, and humps the other full grown dogs that he has in his house, at 2 months of age ! This shows you exactly how dominant the dog breed in general is, and if not corrected early on, will remain more dominant than even you, it's master. Take my advice, PIT BULLS ARE HIGHLY DANGEROUS ! I've seen, with my own eyes, just how dangerous they really are. Cops are even afraid of them, as I've heard plenty of reports where cops have shot them numerous times in the head and the pit keeps coming for the cop. In one case, an oficer shot a pit over 30 times, and it was still alive ! In another case, a cop shot a pit coming towards him countless times, before the pit jumped up, grabbed his throat and ripped it out in full ------ trachea included ! Do a search at Google on Top Secret Animal X files, or something of that label, to find this exact criteria from the reports from the under-ground media posted there. Please people, take my advice, don't have one unless you know that you can and will properly control it's behavior from early on, and in the future. They may not have lock-jaw, but unreal determination to not let go of a grip severely out-weighs it's lock-jaw rumor. Pits can be considered a highly lethal weapon, just like a gun. Most people think that this is absurd....... only, they forget that a gun is only lethal when it goes off.
(I didnt write this its pulled from a website)

 

[CannaBullies]

what a waste of bandwith reprinting that shit..