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Environmental factors account for the link between cannabis and psychosis

Weird

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http://www.psypost.org/2015/06/envi...the-link-between-cannabis-and-psychosis-34964

A great deal of previous research has suggested a link between cannabis use and psychotic episodes. New research suggests that this association is due mostly to shared environmental factors rather than direct causation or shared genetic risk factors.
In the first direct test of whether the link between cannabis use and psychosis is due more to environmental or genetic factors, Sania Shakoor of the University of London and colleagues show that environmental factors can account for the co-occurrence of cannabis use and paranoia, cognitive disorganization, and negative symptoms (flat affect, low motivation). Their results are published in the June issue of the journal Psychiatry Research.

Previous work has shown a strong link between cannabis use (smoking marijuana) and the development of psychosis. Overall, a regular cannabis user has approximately double the risk of developing a psychotic disorder than a non-user. The cause of this connection, however, is unknown.


Most cannabis users do not develop psychosis and although the risk of developing psychosis following cannabis use seems to run in families, this could still be due to shared genetic effects or common environmental risk factors. It could be the case that cannabis use alters one’s brain chemistry (and that some families are more at risk than others), or that particular environmental factors like socioeconomic disadvantage or trauma lead independently to increased rates of cannabis use and psychosis.


This study surveyed 4,830 families of adolescent twins, including both monozygotic and dizygotic twins, of whom 9.4% stated that they had previously tried cannabis. As in previous studies, cannabis use was associated with more psychotic episodes, but overall accounted for little variation in psychotic events. Little difference between monozygotic and dizygotic twins suggested that environmental effects are more important than genetic effects in explaining the connection between cannabis use and psychosis.
“Cannabis use co-occurs with psychotic events in adolescence due to environmental risk factors that are common to both. These data argue against the hypothesis that psychotic experience and cannabis use co-occur due to a similar underlying genetic liability in adolescence and highlight adolescence as a developmental period where environmental processes are significant,” the authors concluded. Future work will have to pinpoint the particular environmental factors that are contributing to these conditions.
 
There's a lot of truth to this. Environmental factors play a huge role in things like addiction and cancer over genetics too.
 

waveguide

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i'm gonna type "environmental factors like" the obvious social prohibition and prejudice,

but that's way too obvious and totally not worth trying to say to a guy like weird who wants you to believe shit doesn't matter unless it's written down somewhere by a well paid prat.

nope, even talking to weird could be perceived as a passive acknowledgement of the utter bullshit the entire "referential" mindset is made of.



guess what bro, the rest of us already figured out that rich bitches lie to us to fuck us over and milk our asses.


the interesting thing is, how come you haven't figured it out that we have that figured out?
 

Weird

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the rest of us?

you don't understand the scope of what I know and what I don't

your still trapped in the paradigm of your own social division and discontent

if you had any true knowledge of humanity you would be unlocking it instead of marginalizing it with projections of fear and paranoia

the tavinstock got you by the root hairs they control so much real estate in your head that you respond like this, there magics aren't that strong and only work if your a willing member

i.e. you live a fear based life
 

kakaman

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When they link psychosis with cannabis they deliberately mix up a cause of psychosis with a symptom. The link with psychosis dose not prove cannabis causes psychosis or if people who have psychosis are more likely to use drugs as a way to cope with their mental problems. There was a show called Drugs Live : cannabis on trial aired on channel 4 in the UK that cited a study comparing two completely different groups of people. One a group of schizophrenics the other was a group without mental illness. They found that the mentally healthy group tended to smoke stale crappy euro hash while the schizophrenics smoke high grade "skunk" cannabis. The study claimed both groups smoked the same amount of cannabis but since the schizophrenic group smoked skunk its proof the skunk must be causing the psychosis instead of taking into account mentally ill people may need stronger drugs to feel better.

This link is like comparing someone who works in a office that drinks a few beers at happy hour to a soldier deployed in Iraq or Afghanistan drinking a half bottle of vodka at the end of the day and saying hard liquor is the reason soldiers have PTSD.

If skunk caused schizophrenia we would see a huge increase in the amount of people with the disease that would coincide with the increase in its popularity which according to the show is 80% of the street cannabis market in the UK, just like we see the massive epidemic of men who have grown big fat boobies due to marijuana use after that 1970's study "proved" the link between growing boobs and smoking weed. BUT WE DON'T
 
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Jericho Mile

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Sunshine,

What happened to the Big Bang bullshit thread? O...I see...it got derailed into politics....or was it religion...same same...and now this one into the realms of:

Mental Illness

I predict 20 pages here....and nothing
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
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I would rather be mentally ill than so emotionally and intellectually stunted that I hold a grudge after an discussion in a thread on the internet.

It is easier to address mental illness because that is not a choice.

Being a douchebag on the other hand, is always a choice.
 

Jericho Mile

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Intellectually stunted? grudge? what???????

lol...too much

better it be...that I am not a pale pseudo intellectual internet martyr...claiming his lack of ego...because he follows the words of others.

I have no grudge against you, weird. I'm pointing out your persona of spinning wheels....and where they never go.

maybe I do have an ego. at least..I live with it
 

Weird

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lack of ego = lack of self = lack of selfishness

For every person I argue with I get about 10 connections to people who feel the same way and just haven't had the capacity to express .

Your here in an unrelated thread, offering nothing to do with it except my presence, like a moth to the flame.

I have never trolled anyone, because no one commands that kinda real estate in my head, nor do I condemn the whole of a person or hold grudge for a difference in a perspective so yeah you are acting stunted, but hey your free to choose so keep at it and keep proving my point.

So funny how people seem to go out of their way to do my work for me, enlighten the world to your predictable nature by acting as predicted.
 

Jericho Mile

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lack of ego = lack of self = lack of selfishness

For every person I argue with I get about 10 connections to people who feel the same way and just haven't had the capacity to express .

Your here in an unrelated thread, offering nothing to do with it except my presence, like a moth to the flame.

I have never trolled anyone, because no one commands that kinda real estate in my head, nor do I condemn the whole of a person or hold grudge for a difference in a perspective so yeah you are acting stunted, but hey your free to choose so keep at it and keep proving my point.

So funny how people seem to go out of their way to do my work for me, enlighten the world to your predictable nature by acting as predicted.

your ego has spoken. well done
 

waveguide

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water off a duck's back :p

weird, what's your problem? if, and only if, i were to say something like... oh i think you're a fuckwit or short dicked, what's your beef? if i want to hold out my hand with a piece of nasty shit in it, it's on me bro. you think i or anyone is am free of derisible criteria or isolate from the vagaries of exclamation? "oh nail him back" dear god not this again..

lifetime upon lifetime chanting bro

seriously, who wants to spend all day me calling you short dick and you making fun of my donkey shit face or something? we're mature people, we all the time deal with people who are different. you're like bloody clark gable, en garde.

if you want to dazzle people with your fencing, don't draw your rapier to deal with flying pies.

just

move

your

head



signed,
donkey shit face already and over it, bro. hey look everyone, i'm a massive cretin :tiphat:

bloody mages and symbols, hold out a picture of something
 

Weird

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if you were to say something like that it would at least be less stereotypical and more direct

Funny if you read the sequence of posts you might get when I said what I did because it is becoming too regular. Whatever reality I share gets labeled as "tavinstock"

I mention something there is a negative stereotype attached.

It is tiring, and limits the potential to appreciate reality from more than one perspective.

If you have a problem with me, be direct, I am an open book there is not one aspect of my being I haven't explored and there isn't any aspect of humanity that scares me so much I need to be prejudice about it.

We all have more in common than is different, starting with DNA.
 

mrcreosote

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Then there's always the Cheetos and beer therapy.

But we'll just assume anyone here would still smoke weed even if it made them crazier than a shithouse rat.

I'm still at the mildly bemused stage, but that could turn at any time.
 

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