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PhatPhreddy420

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Of course, how do you think your email ends up on the computer at your house?

Ask Al Gore.......

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dragunn

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i guess i should have been a little more specific.is it ez to get my home address from my ip address? is there any way to cover my tracks if my email is in the wrong hands all ready?would getting rid of my computer help anything?
 

Hammerhead

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IP address will only give the location of the server. Ip lookup tells ya the server name,The City,The Area Code,GPS and Geolocation Map. I just looked up mine its not even in the same city I live in.
 

dragunn

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are all email accounts the same? if they have my email address,cant they get the address where the computer is located?
 

Hammerhead

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they would need to get a warrant to get your home address from your Internet provider. Skip is the expert on these matters. Anyone that gets your email address will not be able to get your home address without contacting your service provider as far as I know.. I know the big providers like ATT cooperate with Leo all the time.

Your computer connects to the Internet through another server Via IP address. Go to any IP look up and enter your IP...
 
As stated, yes...but it should not be easy. My e-mail server isn't even in my own state, but to get the mail into my outlook, it needs to know where to send it to, and that is the IP address of your modem or router. If LEO has the right justification, and the provider is not one to bend over easily, it takes a warrant. The IP is requested to be located, and with some work, it will link to your provider, then they need a warrant to give the information to your billing account...and that is how they get your address. Dial up? Your IP probably changes with each call. But your not safe. If asked what account had this IP at this date and time, the provider does have that information to give if pressed. If your paying for internet service, your provider knows what IP your account has at all times...depending on how long they keep records.
Using free wifi somewhere like a motel, that is tricky as hell as they know someone was in the building but not exactly where. Most ask to enter the room number and password before you can access the net. The password must be valid, but any room number will pass the test and your on-line.
There is also the thing called A Media Access Control address (MAC address) that is a unique identifier assigned to network interfaces. They may not know where you are, but they can identify what computer sent what ever. It is like a vehicle VIN number. Like a stolen vehicle can be put on a look out for list, if LEO has the time and money, they can flag the device on a look for list. If they go that deep into looking for you, you are in a heap load of shit.
 

FlowerFarmer

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As stated, yes...but it should not be easy. My e-mail server isn't even in my own state, but to get the mail into my outlook, it needs to know where to send it to, and that is the IP address of your modem or router. If LEO has the right justification, and the provider is not one to bend over easily, it takes a warrant. The IP is requested to be located, and with some work, it will link to your provider, then they need a warrant to give the information to your billing account...and that is how they get your address. Dial up? Your IP probably changes with each call. But your not safe. If asked what account had this IP at this date and time, the provider does have that information to give if pressed. If your paying for internet service, your provider knows what IP your account has at all times...depending on how long they keep records.
Using free wifi somewhere like a motel, that is tricky as hell as they know someone was in the building but not exactly where. Most ask to enter the room number and password before you can access the net. The password must be valid, but any room number will pass the test and your on-line.
There is also the thing called A Media Access Control address (MAC address) that is a unique identifier assigned to network interfaces. They may not know where you are, but they can identify what computer sent what ever. It is like a vehicle VIN number. Like a stolen vehicle can be put on a look out for list, if LEO has the time and money, they can flag the device on a look for list. If they go that deep into looking for you, you are in a heap load of shit.


Good post.. but I wouldn't exactly be so sure of the part I bolded. Maybe a warrant is needed for such to be used in a prosecution or something, but people are people.. and tend not to always follow the rules.

All it takes is a buddy, family member, paid lowlife to work for said provider to get that info. If they just want a address to poke their heads around looking for further evidence that would credit a warrant they might have inside friends that could provide this info without going through the proper avenues.. Cops do shit "off the record" all the time.. maybe one of their kids works for the provider, etc..

Or.. is it really that hard for LEO to get a warrant these days? I'm sure many can catch a judge on a friday as he's walking out to go be with his family and get him to sign a warrant based on some bullshit evidence. These m'fuckers aren't reading these warrants all the time.. its handed to them from a "reputable cop" and signed it gets. (At least in regards to normal local raids)

I'm surprised we dont here of web related busts in this nature..perhaps if these servers were located in the US we would. Lets just hope the powers behind this website dont or dont ever cooperate with US LEO for whatever interests now and in the future.

This is why I dont click on posts with links exiting ICMAG to another website. For all we know it could be a bait site dedicated to logging IPs/MACs that are directed there from this website.
We might be safe here with IPs stored overseas, but not once you leave here and are on some other site.


Maybe I'm way off base here.. but don't think LEO doesn't do slimy shit without warrants.. and don't think shitbag employees/companies out in the real word don't help them without paperwork. Just dont think a warrant is some holy grail paperwork that keeps criminals safe...Its a tool of the system. Judges write them for the buddies all day every day.

Stay safe guys.. there is a war going on. If they want you bad enough they will get you.




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St3ve

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Of course, how do you think your email ends up on the computer at your house?

Ask Al Gore.......

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lol that picture is retarded.. you think they had laptops with LCD's and Internet explorer in 1978? Hell, Windows wasn't even made until the mid-80's, much less Internet Explorer. And laptops? lol
 

St3ve

Member
As for the op's question, as mentioned, they can only find a general area as to where the message originated. From a web-mail client like Hotmail or Yahoo anyway.. if you are referring to mail provided by your ISP then THEY can provide the exact information if they are audited.

Keep in mind.. the technology to track you through your computer usage is not something that most people would have. The super smart computer geeks we see in the movies aren't wasting there time for things like these at all. Most of the computer ppl in our areas are doing everything they can to keep the printers running and email functioning in their offices.

I mean has anyone, in the history of anywhere, ever hear of anyone being tracked like that? The closest I've ever hear of is pedophiles who get entrapped from chat rooms and what not. Even when trading emails that have to wait to the in person meet to make the bust.
 

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