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Elite Cuts - Closet Queens - Legends

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Share you closet queens here
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96' weasel cut to kick things off

Im a seed grower but lately im thinking the only Fire OG I have seen is the Cali Disp Cuts
It might be time to ship the clone ?
Heres were im looking and anyone know a legit clone site that ships state side to legal growers?
No mater what feel free to drop those elite cuts and clone pics

If I'm not in CA, can I still order?

Yes you can! Medical patients and recreational growers in legalized States can purchase 6" marijuana clones shipped using 2-day right to your home. A cultivation license or medical card is NOT required to buy cannabis plants for sale online; however, you must be over 21 years old.

Select Strains. Choose up to four (4) strains. It is challenging for our staff to process so many orders correctly each day, so we have a strain limit to let operations run smooth. In our experience, growers have the best results when limiting the amount of strains cultivated in a single harvest. Especially true when growing indoor, strains grow and uptake nutrients at different rates. With larger quantities we can make exceptions with approval from management.

Ordering Process. Place an order with us by text or email. Please decide how many plants you want and strain(s) selection before inquiring. Once you have been provided a quote for your order, payment is made using your smart phone. Your tracking number is processed within 2 days of payment and orders go out Monday - Friday to prevent any shipping delays on Sunday.

Generally, orders arrive within 5 - 7 business days after the purchase date. Once payment is received, customers need to email us their Full Name and Shipping Address as it appears on mail. If you live in an apartment, friendly reminder to add the unit number. Pricing for personal growing below:​

2 clones - $200
4 clones - $260
6 clones - $360
8 clones - $440
10 clones - $500
12 clones - $540​
 
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This is seedfinders list
211 Clone Only "only" strains
Its a bit convoluted maybe we can clean it up a bit?
Shall we start with the bx and s1's ??
After that imagine lay down a sort wish-list and start documenting some of these cuts
Want that in yellow
Highlighting the have that in green
 
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What do we know about the clone-only Triangle Kush?​

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Clone Only Strains Triangle Kush
The Triangle Kush story according to Marty @origins_tk_ogk / @origins_tk_selects and Josh D @therealogkushstory / @_j_o_s_h_d at instagram:


Triangle Kush and OG Kush , both seeds made in south Florida in 1991 in the same garage of Marty. The mother was called Emerald Triangle （in our circle from around ‘87） and that garage was stuffed wall to wall with it , A pack of Hindu Kush seeds that I bought from Neville , Amsterdam in 1989 was being tested after a pre sex test . One of those pre sexed Hindu Kush seeds created a bit of unseen pollen near the AC intake , that managed to make seeds thru out that entire 12 light garage . Those lbs where then sold by myself to a close buddy near Orlando , where he would then piece them out to his circle of friends . One of his buddies would find the Triangle Kush seed and another guy found the Kush seed that would later get named OG Kush once it made its way west to California .
The Emerald Triangle strain was given to my old partner from an older head from the Washington area before I ever even knew he was a grower as I was buying pounds of it already to sell in 87-88 . Added fact , The Emerald Triangle leaned more towards a earthy spicy , flower smelling , sweet candy like terps and not chemi or fuel like at all . fuel or gassy terps must have came from the Hindu .
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Nice strain chunky gassy crusty
 

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UW Hybrids / Crossings​


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Hybrids / Crossings (min. 1. Generation):​

Hash Plant Hybrids / Crossings​


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DPH - G13HP /not the '88

"An absolute must for the connoisseur, but please handle with care,
inexperienced smokers may have problems." - Nevil S. 🙏

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boel hashplant cuttlefish skelly puck pbud
 
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G-13 Hybrids / Crossings​


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Cut $2500 Per Seed S1 / $100ea. prices have since dropped
 
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Understanding Triploid and Tetraploid Cannabis Plants


Understanding Triploid and Tetraploid Cannabis Plants​

By Luke Sumpter
Most cannabis varieties are made up of cells that contain two sets of chromosomes—two from each parent. However, pioneering breeders have created varieties that contain three or even four sets. Why does this matter? Because these plants produce bigger buds, more cannabinoids and terpenes, and larger overall yields. Discover everything you need to know about polyploid weed and how it could steer the future of the industry.

Contents:
  1. Diploids: the standard cannabis genome
  2. Overview of polyploidy in cannabis plants
  3. Triploid cannabis plants
  4. Tetraploid cannabis plants
  5. Cannabis polyploid: a fascinating and useful phenomenon

Diploids: The Standard Cannabis Genome​

Much like us humans, most cannabis plants are diploid organisms—they contain two sets of chromosomes in each cell (“di” means “two”). In case you don’t remember much from biology class, chromosomes are small structures built from nucleic acids found in the nucleus of the cell. They store genetic information and enable the copying of DNA during cell division, also known as mitosis.
Each parent plant passes down 10 chromosomes to the offspring, meaning diploid cannabis plant cells possess a total of 20 chromosomes. Researchers believe that diploidy offers organisms somewhat of a survival advantage[1]. Not only does having two sets of chromosomes mean cells have a software backup if one chromosome gets damaged, but it allows healthy genes to override those with detrimental mutations.
Diploidy also offers other benefits. The presence of two sets of chromosomes allows plants to adapt better to their surroundings over time. Inherited sets of genes from both parents also equip plants with genetic variability, increasing the odds of inherited pest and disease resistance and other desirable traits.
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The vast majority of cannabis cultivars are diploid in nature. Only a very small percentage of naturally occurring cannabis plants emerge with more than two sets of chromosomes. However, cannabis breeders have developed methods to create plants with three or even four sets of chromosomes. Known as polyploidy, this trait comes with some superb advantages, as well as some downsides.
Diploid Cannabis
Diploid Cannabis

Overview of Polyploidy in Cannabis Plants​

Polyploidy occurs in almost all flowering plants[2] to varying degrees. Many of the agricultural crops that have become staples in the human diet are polyploids, including strawberries, coffee, potato, and oats. Cannabis breeders have figured out ways to increase the number of chromosome sets within cannabis cells, using both chemical intervention and crossbreeding between diploid and polyploid varieties.
Polyploid cannabis varieties differ from their diploid counterparts in several ways, including:
  • Cell wall composition: Research shows that polyploidy changes the composition[3] of the cell wall—the structure that surrounds the plasma membrane. These changes influence the levels of proteins and complex carbohydrates in the cell wall, which can have a big influence on drought tolerance and pathogen defence.
  • Biomass production: Polyploid hemp produces more biomass and heavier flowers[4]. This has important implications in commercial agriculture for both industrial hemp and medicinal and recreational cannabis.
  • Less fertile: Polyploids are often infertile[5]. This might sound like a disadvantage, but it actually comes in handy when growing seedless weed flowers.

Types of Polyploidy in Marijuana​

In case you haven’t noticed, the cannabis market has exploded over the past decade. As legalization continues to blossom, research and development efforts are ramping up. Companies are pouring considerable time, effort, and money into creating cannabis plants/products that increase profits and better satisfy customer demands. So far, breeders have created cultivars with higher levels of THC, bigger buds, higher yields, and more flavour.
Now, researchers are honing in on the concept of polyploidy to improve cannabis as an agricultural crop. Through chemical treatments and crossbreeding, the following types of cannabis polyploids have arisen:
  • Triploid cannabis: As the name suggests, triploid cannabis contains three sets of chromosomes[6], which adds up to 30 in total. The offspring inherit a single set from one parent and two from the other.
  • Tetraploid cannabis: These cultivars possess four sets of chromosomes, two from each parent. Although tetraploid plants possess more copies of DNA, they’re a precursor to triploid plants during the breeding process (more on this below).
Polyploid Cannabis
Polyploid Cannabis

Can Cannabis Polyploidy Solve the Pollen Problem?​

Polyploid cannabis plants offer a host of benefits, and they may help growers overcome the fertilisation issue when it comes to cultivating cannabis on a large scale. You see, as a dioecious plant, cannabis emerges from seed as either a distinct male or female specimen. The females produce resinous flowers high in cannabinoids and terpenes (if left unfertilised), whereas the male flowers produce pollen.
Overall, male plants are relatively worthless when it comes to crop production. Not only that, but they decrease the quality of female flowers upon fertilisation, turning them from sweet sinsemilla into seedy and less potent buds.
The current industry[7] standard for dealing with this issue involves genetic testing before transplanting. As you can imagine, this quickly becomes costly and time-consuming. However, both feminized seeds and cloning offer an alternative solution. Polyploid cannabis could become another option for commercial and small-scale growers looking to produce seedless weed.
Triploid cannabis varieties are practically infertile and rarely produce seeds, regardless of whether they are surrounded by pollen-producing males. Their odd sets of chromosomes impair the cellular processes that lead to seed development.

Triploid Cannabis Plants​

Triploid plants are not exclusive to the world of cannabis breeding. Horticulturalists have developed triploid varieties across a host of different species to reap their benefits. For example, seedless fruit, such as watermelons and bananas, are triploid. Because they can’t produce seeds, they’re more convenient to consume and therefore more appealing to consumers.
Much like other triploid crops, cannabis strains that possess three sets of chromosomes also offer key benefits. They create more biomass in terms of leaves and stems, which makes them more valuable in some commercial settings. Larger flowers also make them extremely appealing to growers, as well as customers seeking big buds in dispensaries and other retail outlets.

How Do Triploid Cannabis Plants Occur?​

Triploid plants do occur naturally, but they are extremely rare. In order to create them, breeders need to first create tetraploid weed cultivars (we’ll discuss this process below). Once they secure tetraploid genetics, breeders then need to select suitable diploid specimens with desirable traits. Crossing a carefully selected tetraploid parent with a diploid parent will create triploid offspring.

Diploid vs Tetraploid Plants
Diploid vs Tetraploid Plants

Traits of Triploid Weed Genetics​

Now you’re aware of how triploid and diploid plants differ genetically, but how exactly are these differences expressed? The key differences exhibited by triploid plants include:
  • Larger and more luscious: Research shows that triploid cannabis plants tend to grow larger[8] than their diploid counterparts. An overall increase in biomass makes for bigger fan leaves, longer stems, and a more extensive root network in the soil.
  • Slower to grow: The size and productivity of triploid plants come with a trade-off—they take longer to grow. While not a problem for hobbyists, the length of the growing cycle poses an issue for commercial ventures that value a quick turnaround.
  • More cannabinoids: Studies analysing the chemical qualities of diploid and polyploid weed strains have found higher levels of cannabinoids[9] in triploid varieties.
  • Bigger buds: Triploid cannabis varieties also produce bigger flowers. The buds are longer, wider, and denser. Larger buds and more cannabinoids make for dramatically larger yields per plant.

What Are the Benefits of Triploid Cannabis Plants for Breeders?​

Triploid cannabis opens up a whole new field of play for breeders. Just like the advent of autoflowering and feminized genetics, a rise in triploid plants could change the cannabis industry in many ways. Contemporary research has found that these varieties certainly show promise. However, this innovation is still in the early stages, and triploid weed plants also have some downsides that could affect their adoption among breeders and growers, both commercial and amateur.

Can You Cross Triploid and Diploid Cannabis Plants?​

Technically, yes. A breeder could cross diploid and triploid parent strains. However, the results probably wouldn’t be worth the effort, as their unequal amount of chromosome sets can disrupt the normal reproductive process. On top of that, triploids are almost always sterile, meaning there’s only a very tiny chance that they’ll go to seed to produce offspring.

What Are the Downsides of Triploid Genetics for Growers​

Triploid cannabis plants certainly boast some impressive benefits. They offer a seedless crop, bigger yields, large buds, and more cannabinoids. However, these cultivars largely remain confined to research laboratories for the time being. Plus, they also have some downsides. Their incredibly low fertility means that growers will have to indefinitely maintain a line of clones in order to maintain a progeny that they like. Inevitably, this demands resources such as space, lighting, and nutrients.
On top of this, triploid varieties are hard to create. They require knowledge of plant genetics and the ability to create tetraploid strains as parent stock. Realistically, the vast majority of small-scale growers lack the resources and knowledge to make their own triploid genetics.
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Tetraploid Cannabis Plants​

Tetraploid cannabis plants are similar to triploids in the sense that they are also polyploids. However, instead of three sets of chromosomes, each cell possesses four—two sets from each parent. These varieties are somewhat easier to create than triploid ones; you can view them as a botanical precursor.

How Are Tetraploid Weed Plants Formed?​

Plant scientists create tetraploid plants through chemical intervention. There are several molecules that, when applied to a weed plant, cause cells to multiply their chromosomes. These compounds include colchicine[10], a naturally occurring chemical found in autumn crocus that interferes with cell division. Researchers also use oryzalin, a less toxic alternative, to achieve the same result.
Polyploid Cannabis
Polyploid Cannabis

Traits of Tetraploid Genetics​

Tetraploid cannabis varieties also possess unique traits that make them attractive to breeders and growers. These qualities include:
  • Unique leaf morphology: Tetraploid varieties have different leaves compared to their diploid cousins. Their fan leaves are larger[11] with longer and thicker leaflets. The guard cells that open and close the stomata are also thicker and longer.
  • Greater trichome density: Trichomes are the small glands found on bud and leaf surfaces. These crystal-like structures are responsible for creating cannabinoids and terpenes—the chemicals responsible for the effects of each strain. Studies show that tetraploid sugar leaves produce around 40% more trichomes[12] than diploid ones.
  • Bigger yields: Tetraploid plants produce bigger yields[13] overall. This includes a slightly higher amount of dry bud and a significantly larger amount of leaf trim that can be used to make hash and other extracts.
  • More terpenes: Aromatic terpenes are responsible for the unique scents and flavour of each strain. They also play an important role in the subjective effects of different cultivars. Early studies show that tetraploid varieties produce far more terpenes[14] in their leaves and flowers.

The Importance of Tetraploid Cannabis Plants in Breeding​

Considering the impressive traits mentioned above, tetraploid cannabis clearly has a lot of potential. But again, you’ll be hard-pressed to get your hands on any tetraploid varieties for now. However, we could see them arrive on the market in the near future. Breeders are likely to use this technology to create strains that are more productive, resinous, flavourful, and potent. Chances are, we’ll also see tetraploid versions of some of the most well-known cannabis strains emerge at some point.

Can You Cross a Tetraploid With a Diploid Cannabis Plant?​

Yes! In fact, this is exactly how breeders create triploid plants. Crossing a diploid with a tetraploid results in a progeny with three sets of chromosomes. Although tetraploid plants exhibit decreased female fertility compared to diploids, they are still able to reproduce (they just create fewer seeds).

The Disadvantages of Tetraploid Genetics​

Much like triploid genetics, tetraploid plants display some seriously impressive traits, and they’re relatively easy to create using chemical manipulation. However, they also have a few disadvantages. First, their low fertility makes successful crosses hard to accomplish. They also appear to have a slower rate of growth compared to diploid varieties, making them less appealing to growers that value speed. Finally, for now, they remain confined to a niche area of breeding, and a lack of understanding surrounding tetraploids will make them tough to work with for most amateurs.

Cannabis Polyploid: A Fascinating and Useful Phenomenon​

Although just a single species of plant, a gigantic industry revolves around cannabis. What started as a wild plant has, with the help of human innovation, become a diverse domesticated plant that takes on many different forms. Breeding breakthroughs have ushered in the likes of autoflowering and feminized strains, as well as the first true F1 hybrids.
Now, it looks like polyploids are next in line to shake up the industry. That’s right—cannabis breeding has reached the point of multiplying the amount of chromosomes in plant cells! Both triploid and tetraploid cannabis present some promising advantages, including bigger buds, more THC, and more terpenes. Research remains in the early stages, but you can expect to hear much more about polyploid cannabis in the coming years!
External Resources:
  1. The evolutionary advantage of haploid versus diploid microbes in nutrient-poor environments https://www.sciencedirect.com
  2. Frontiers | Current Strategies of Polyploid Plant Genome Sequence Assembly https://www.frontiersin.org
  3. Polyploidy Affects Plant Growth and Alters Cell Wall Composition - PubMed https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
  4. Characteristics of the Diploid, Triploid, and Tetraploid Versions of a Cannabigerol-Dominant F1 Hybrid Industrial Hemp Cultivar, Cannabis sativa ‘Stem Cell CBG’ - PMC https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
  5. Polyploidy https://www.ucl.ac.uk
  6. Breeding Triploid Plants: A Review https://www.agriculturejournals.cz
  7. Characteristics of the Diploid, Triploid, and Tetraploid Versions of a Cannabigerol-Dominant F1 Hybrid Industrial Hemp Cultivar, Cannabis sativa ‘Stem Cell CBG’ - PMC https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
  8. Characteristics of the Diploid, Triploid, and Tetraploid Versions of a Cannabigerol-Dominant F1 Hybrid Industrial Hemp Cultivar, Cannabis sativa ‘Stem Cell CBG’ - PMC https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
  9. Characteristics of the Diploid, Triploid, and Tetraploid Versions of a Cannabigerol-Dominant F1 Hybrid Industrial Hemp Cultivar, Cannabis sativa ‘Stem Cell CBG’ - PMC https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
  10. Frontiers | Polyploidization for the Genetic Improvement of Cannabis sativa https://www.frontiersin.org
  11. Frontiers | Polyploidization for the Genetic Improvement of Cannabis sativa https://www.frontiersin.org
  12. Frontiers | Polyploidization for the Genetic Improvement of Cannabis sativa https://www.frontiersin.org
  13. Frontiers | Polyploidization for the Genetic Improvement of Cannabis sativa https://www.frontiersin.org
  14. Frontiers | Polyploidization for the Genetic Improvement of Cannabis sativa https://www.frontiersin.org
Disclaimer:
This content is for educational purposes only. The information provided is derived from research gathered from external sources.
 
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Mendo Purps Hybrids / Crossings​


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’78 OG LA Affie is another legendary strain originally created by breeder Johnny Que. Relatively unknown until ‘Aficionado’ released it in a limited fashion. JQ then put her out under under his own ‘Stanky Dank Genetics’ . This is her genetic make up - Heirloom Lemon Thai x ’78 Colombian Gold x ’78 Pakistani Landrace

Many see this strain as a heirloom OG, one that pre-dates all the other strains within this now, large gene pool. Think heavy fuel aroma, indica leaning growth structure and a deeply relaxing high. The perfect evening smoke. She paved the way to OG Kush / Hollywood Pure Kush which both appeared after her arrival. ’78 Affie is simply an amazing line, hence the reason we partnered it with the pure Lambsbread.

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Matt “Bubba” Berger​

Matt “Bubba” Berger is a grower, breeder, and consultant with more than 30 years of experience cultivating cannabis. He is responsible for creating the famous Bubba Kush strain and is considered to be one of the godfathers of the legendary OG Kush. His hard work and dedication to the plant have helped change the cannabis industry forever.

In the early 1990s, Matt was attending concerts and visiting friends in Tulane, New Orleans, when he acquired some Northern Lights seeds from a grower known as Fat Larry. Matt brought the seeds back to his home in Gainesville, Florida, and sprouted them, selecting a keeper phenotype that he dubbed “Bubba.”

Shortly thereafter, Matt’s friend, Alec Anderson, gave him a cutting of another strain known simply as “Kush.” This cutting would later become known as OG Kush—perhaps the most coveted cultivar in the world.

In 1996, Matt decided to get involved in the medical cannabis industry. Armed with clones of Bubba and Kush, he moved to Silverlake, California, where he and a friend named Josh D started a cannabis-growing operation.

At the time, Matt and Josh’s grow room was small, and the Kush plants quickly outgrew the space. One of the plants became stressed and, as a result, turned hermaphroditic. Unbeknownst to the growers, this Kush plant pollinated one of Matt’s Bubba plants. The accidental pollination gave birth to the legendary Bubba Kush.

Soon, many people in the area started growing Bubba Kush, and new phenotypes of the strain appeared. Growers referred to Matt’s phenotype as “Pre ’98 Bubba Kush” to distinguish it as the original cut.
Its common knowlege that Ace Seeds Bubba is Katsu Cut
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Maple Leaf Wilson​


Cannabis has evolved over the years. In part, major thanks go to individuals such as an old hashish trade route hippie by the name of Maple Leaf Wilson who helped introduce Indica varieties of cannabis into California. Maple Leaf Wilson got the nickname because he was growing pot plants that had leaves remarkably similar to maple leaves. This was uncommon in the area at the time because most of the cannabis was long fingery sativa plants. Maple Leaf Wilson was bringing indica genetics from Canada into California. When people saw the look of the plant when growing, they quickly gave him the nickname Maple Leaf Wilson.


Sam the Skunk Man ​


,,,, AKA “Sam The Skunk Man”, is another individual that gave cannabis a push to where it is today. In the early ’80s, Sacred Seeds Seed Bank out of California was one of the biggest names in the industry. They were selling seeds through High Times magazine during a heightened time of prohibition. They ended up getting raided and having their business shut down. ... was one of the individuals working on genetics at the time with Sacred Seeds. He managed to grab a ton of genetics and make his way over to Amsterdam. He took five old-school original strains from California and introduced them to knowledgeable and successful cannabis breeders Neville Schoenmakers and Scott Blakely. Early Pearl, Early Girl, Northern Lights, Haze, and Skunk were the five strains that made it to Amsterdam. These five strains, along with the genetic profiles collected by Scott Blakely and Neville Schumacher, helped to populate cannabis as we know it today.

Mendocino “Romulan” Joe​


Mendocino Joe AKA Romulan Joe is a cannabis breeder out of California who worked with the group at Sacred Seeds on stabilizing the Skunk line of genetics. After Sacred Seeds was raided and David Watson took off for Amsterdam, Mendocino Joe headed north to Canada, where he sold his Skunk genetics to Federation Seed Company. He also had the nickname of Romulan Joe because he is said to be the creator of the cannabis strain Romulan that was popular in the ’70s and ’80s. This strain’s name was based on an alien species on the popular TV series Star Trek. It is said that smoking Romulan would cause your forehead to wrinkle up slightly, resembling the Romulan characters from the series.


Neville Martin Schoenmakers​


Neville Martin Schoenmakers is often referred to as the grandfather of cannabis. He was the founder of Amsterdam’s original Seed Bank, “The Seed Bank of Holland.” From an early age, Neville had a passion for growing and cultivating seeds of all sorts. This passion led to the cultivation of cannabis. Neville collected cannabis genetics from around the world. His extensive collection, without a doubt, helped cannabis evolve into the beautiful buds we enjoy today. This legend passed away on March 30th of 2019, leaving behind an impressive legacy that will forever shape the future for cannabis.


Shantibaba – Scott Blakely​


Scott Blakey, AKA Shantibaba, is another OG legendary cannabis breeder. He is accredited with the infamous strain White Widow. Scott worked alongside Neville with the Skunk genetics and many others before parting ways in the late 90s. He has been involved in virtually every aspect of cannabis cultivation and research. In 2019, Scott went into his newest venture Sciva Corporation, where he furthers his knowledge into the cultivation and study of medicinal cannabis.


The next time you get ready to sesh, remember that what you’re smoking or vaping on wouldn’t be as good as it is if not for the work of cannabis breeders and cultivators like the OG legends mentioned above.
 
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Romulan is a mostly indica variety from unknown origin and can be cultivated indoors and outdoors. .

What do we know about the unknown/legendary Romulan?​


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Rumors and guesses as to the parentage of Romulan abound. Claims that the Romulan is a pure Indica （Afgani/Kush） are mistaken. While there may be some genetics from Indica （Afgani） varieties, anyone who has tried the Romulan knows that the mind warping effect is that of plant with strong sativa traits. `Romulan Joe` and I have had many conversations on the origin of this strain. According to him the original breeders started growing in there backyard and greenhouse in the 50`s, after being introduced to cannabis in the Korean war and bringing home seeds to Victoria. They struggled to grow and acclimatise these seeds selecting the faster flowering shorter plants from the tall lanky Korean strain. When the late sixties and early seventies rolled around, they began trying Columbian and Mexician seeds, hybridizing varieties from these. In the mid 80`s when the Afghani strains swept into North America they briefly tried hybridizing with these but eventually when back to selecting the traits they liked in there old genetics. They worked mainly with Sativa genetics but always selected shorter squatter phenotypes which has made many people think that it is purely Indica strain. But whatever its true genealogy is, I`m sure we can all agree on its great taste and high.

Additional information courtesy of Romulan Genetics®:

Our founder grew up in California in the late 70's and early 80's. His father was US Navy Veteran, and also a well connected drug dealer during the 1960-70's. He was, more importantly, also a grower of cannabis. And starting in the late 1960's, his father began a business relationship with a certain motorcycle club. Which soon flourished into him being a main supplier of cannabis, cocaine, and LSD to some of the larger chapters of this club in California. This was the beginning of a loose collection of growers and cannabis breeders, who were all also military veterans and connected to motorcycle clubs from California to British Columbia. They met during camping trips up and down the PNW, and traded seeds, stories, and did their business with their families in tow all while camping out in the woods.

This was eventually how Romulan came to be, but it was first known by a very different name: Port Alberni Pinebud. In California, it was called Pine Mtn. bud among a few other names. But it was all coming from the same source, that group of veterans who grew and met during camping trips together. They started meeting up, and eventually working together on the cannabis they were breeding. It started well before Jake's father got involved, with veterans returning home from the Korean war. They brought back seeds from an amazing strain they had sampled, called Thai. The Korean Thai seeds were grown back home in the BC area, and Norcal area but these veterans found it very difficult to grow in those regions. Eventually when Jake's father and other veterans got involved, they introduced a Mexican sativa into the mix. And later a Colombian landrace was added, most likely Colombian Red, in the late 1970's. Eventually an Afghani Indica was bred in, but they did not like the results entirely, so they back crossed it with the Colombian Red again before they found what they were looking for. This original set of F1 seed stock are what brought P. Alberni Pinebud, P.A. Purple, and other notable strains to come from that region at that time. It was also at around this time, that Federal Agencies began to crack down on this groups members and their activities. This forced them to no longer meet together, and pushed the resulting strains and growers into more remote areas.

But that still doesn't cover how it became Romulan. "Romulan Joe" is who brought the strain to the masses initially. Most everyone knows that part of the story. The Romulan we grow here, is something very similar to the famous Joe's Romulan, but not the exact same thing. Rather it is a slightly different version than what Joe had, and should be thought of as closer to Vic High's Romulan cut. Our's is a pure original Romulan that has not been crossed with anything else.
 
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Rumors :thinking: Cuddle Fish Hash Plant » Skelly and Puck same cut ?​

Maybe someone can come along and clear this up ?

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Cuddle Fish Hash Plant​

Lineage: Sky Hash x Industrial Plant​

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Marc Emery: Amstel Gold is an Indica variety developed in California in the seventies and has been grown outdoors in Holland since 1980. Smokes soft with a citrus like aroma and has a good high. Easy to grow, grows with long compact resinous buds. One of the best green outdoor varieties in our collection.
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Nine Tails​


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The Oregon Afghani clone has been around for 30+ years. It came from landrace seeds that greatly resemble a pure OG Kush. Its very heavy, and will induce couch-lock almost instantly.

A very old Afghani clone that has been past down through several generations.The first time I tried the Oregon Afghani was in 1996 when I arrived to the state. She tastes of earthy/coffee/kush and extremely potent with a narcotic effect that will topple the biggest tolerance. She is also very stable and has proven to help stabilize offspring out of the several crosses that I've used her for, thus making her an ideal canna-date for the males in the stable. (Professor P)
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pakistani-heirloom - NF

This is an old kept and acclimated Pakistani line out of northern California gifted to me by my father. They do carry an Afghani edge to them being collected right at the northern border. Original collection from right below Khyber Pass, Northern Pakistan late 1980s, and kept out of region since.


These genetics have Only been grown outdoors for years and are a kept outdoor line. I wanted to change that so This was the first time they have seen artificial light. I selected for plants that showed zero stress and high tolerance to the indoor environment. Not only that, they thrive in it.


From 45, we selected down to 4 amazing females and 1 stud male. The male has an old school horseradish/hot mustard sour stench coupled with loud dank linoluem funk exudes off him. He is also more on the sativa spectrum with a later flower window which is where my father says the more traditional Pakistani heritage lies.
Females carry smells range from Industrial chemical, new linoluem roll, new carpet musk, adhesive glue, old world spices, Tart Sour Melon, to an almost meat funk kush over linoluem all with a pine wood style backing. They are also referred to as ‘Blue Pakis’ by those older than myself.


Extreme lime green coloration to the flowers, the more sativa carry a darker resin where the others are more of a grey tacky resin cakes the hands quick. The flower is extremely unique and stands out against most anything, some do carry a golden cure.


The effect is extremely Cerebral and potent, to a narcotic cerebral in the more Afghan. Most are extremely energetic and motivational with a clean introspective effect.


They hold extreme vigor and resistance to pest, mold, mildew. Many are Hash and extract style plants, the more forward facing sativa are sieve style plants with a drier resin, a later bloom and a looser flower set. They all dump resins and should make great plants to select in for extractors.


Flower times will range from 10to12 weeks with your occasional fast finisher, outdoors they finish the very start of October into November for some. Yield is above average, quality is above average. Drug trait cultivar, low to no CBD.


Pakistani Heirloom male that has an old school horseradish/hot mustard sour stench coupled with loud dank linoluem funk, what he passes to offpsring is a very classic clean linoleum over old world Spice. Average Flower time 9to10 weeks on the pure line and the Male is of the truest sativa presence. These plants under the sun are amazingly fast they will be done early October on most everything despite their effect being so cerebral. Resistant to pest and mold as well. Yield will be above average on just about all. quality, effect, vigor, yield. All there.

Feel free to add more info on the old pak lines ...
 
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