billyblima
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Wat needs to be done to the electric in order to have three 600 watt lights, a carbon filter and a fan........I was told this would trip the circut out in a normal household
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The lights alone would draw a minimum of 15 amps, plus whatever your fan draws, you didn't list the wattage. So assuming the fan draws less then 600 watts that puts you under 20 amps which technically is where you will trip the circuit breaker in a modern home. But the startup current will be higher than the steady state current draw so you may or may not trip a breaker with the equipment you have when you fire everything up.
You would probably be exceeding the 80% rule with the equipment you have since it's I would think a fan for carbon filtration would draw more than 120 watts. The 80% rule is that you shouldn't run a steady state current draw of more than 80% of the breaker limit. I assume that rule of thumb is due to the higher start up current and also because ballasts draw more than what the bulb is rated at due to inefficiencies and such, at least if its a magnetic ballast.
Putting aside all the technical mumbo jumbo, I think there is one easy way to tell. Turn off the breaker, plug in all your equipment with any switches in the on position, then turn the breaker back on. If it doesn't trip the breaker back off you are good. If you are tripping the breaker, then a staggered startup of the equipment you have may solve that issue.
Building codes have a significant margin of safety built in, so I personally wouldn't worry about running right up against the breaker limit. But I think there are some electricians on here who could address the wisdom of doing that. I personally would not be comfortable if there was any jerry rigging going on or if the wiring was not up to code.
You would probably be exceeding the 80% rule with the equipment you have since it's I would think a fan for carbon filtration would draw more than 120 watts. The 80% rule is that you shouldn't run a steady state current draw of more than 80% of the breaker limit. I assume that rule of thumb is due to the higher start up current and also because ballasts draw more than what the bulb is rated at due to inefficiencies and such, at least if its a magnetic ballast.
Putting aside all the technical mumbo jumbo, I think there is one easy way to tell. Turn off the breaker, plug in all your equipment with any switches in the on position, then turn the breaker back on. If it doesn't trip the breaker back off you are good. If you are tripping the breaker, then a staggered startup of the equipment you have may solve that issue.
Building codes have a significant margin of safety built in, so I personally wouldn't worry about running right up against the breaker limit. But I think there are some electricians on here who could address the wisdom of doing that. I personally would not be comfortable if there was any jerry rigging going on or if the wiring was not up to code.
billyblima
Member
someone told me i would need an electrician to fit a 10amp cable runing from the mains to the room connected to a board wiv 8 sockets to run everything of........
Your room lights circuit is probably another 15amp circuit on it's own. (Edit: MAKE SURE it's isolated.)
Try running 2 600w's the first run. Disconnect the room light and wire a GFCI socket and a surge protector to it. Plug your fans and another room light into that.
Once your first crop is done you should be able to save a bit of cash for further upgrades. Also gives you more time to think about it.
Try running 2 600w's the first run. Disconnect the room light and wire a GFCI socket and a surge protector to it. Plug your fans and another room light into that.
Once your first crop is done you should be able to save a bit of cash for further upgrades. Also gives you more time to think about it.
billyblima
Member
sounds like you know your stuff guys are ne1 ov you from the uk by any chance......... I wondering with me running like 3000watts through a 3bedroom house would my electric usuage bring attention to me as cultivating as i would of thought this electric usuage is above average for an 3bedroom house... obviously im not looking to start playing with live wires so im thinking of bringing in a elctrician... do you think you could write dwn some usefull information for my electrician so he can get a clear picture of wat is needed to be done plz
hopefully every things rose and the electric doesnt trip......
hopefully every things rose and the electric doesnt trip......
Ahhh, you are in the UK. That makes a difference. Some european countries use higher voltage. What's the voltage you guys use? If its 220V or 240V you might be fine if your breakers are more than 10 amp breakers. Even at 10 amps there is a good chance you are OK. I'm not familiar with european standards. The voltage will be listed on your equipment.
And I doubt 3000W for a home will raise questions. That's higher than average but not outrageous. Keep the use of electric heat down to a minimum, things like electric water heaters, electric clothes dryers, space heaters, that sort of thing. And once you start to flower with 12/12 on-off cycle your usage will be cut in half on average.
If you plug everything in and trip a circuit breaker, you can always get an extension cord and run it into another room that is on a different circuit. Might be a good idea anyway just so you aren't right on the edge. Just get a really heavy duty extension cord, a thick, heavy gauge one.
billyblima
Member
nice 1 mate........ i appreciate the info.... with those three lights how many plants would you do n what strain bairing in mind im looking for a stinking odourous 1
all you need to do is run two 20a circuits running to your grow room... If you want from there you can add a set or two of plugs to each circuit so you have more then two plugs per circuit.... If you are smart... and wont kill yourself its pretty simple to install the new wire plugs and breakers.... But if your not good with your hands and head dont attempt it... Dont want to burn your house down or electrocute yourself....
You really should learn to grow first. Start with one light and a few plants. Skunk #1 is a real hardy bitch that produces a lot of buds that people like, try that one. Pretty stinky too.
Once you have a light dialed in and your odor control is maxxed out, get yourself some Sour Diesel beans and a few more lights/tables.
You'll be very glad you did.You really should learn to grow first. Start with one light and a few plants. Skunk #1 is a real hardy bitch that produces a lot of buds that people like, try that one. Pretty stinky too.
Once you have a light dialed in and your odor control is maxxed out, get yourself some Sour Diesel beans and a few more lights/tables.
Aw man, don't rain on his parade. The man is ambitious, I admire that.
Not sure why anyone growing in an indoor situation in a country where it's illegal would WANT an especially stinky plant though.
billyblima
Member
lol.......... i aint wasting my precious time waiting on a few skunk #1 plants when i can b growin 15 or more of the sour diesel that will fly out for 200 a z........ come on lads do the math....... if you do something you gt to do it big........... nt that 15 is u knw........... lmao........ im was born in the deep end so practicing is for you shallow guys..... im lookin to do bout 20plnts every 8 weeks....... hw many z do you reckon i can gt of that lads
PS....... JEALIOUS
PS....... JEALIOUS
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blackburngrower
it all depends on u growin conditions how many ozs u guna pull off 20 plants to many variables to say i maself grow 8 bigbud under 1 600w all topped and aim 4 2 0z a plant anything else is a bonus wiv 20 plants 2oz each u guna get 40oz but thats only if everthing goes to plan which isnt always the case wiv growin
odin_
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under a 600, i would aim at one per square foot so at 3x3 try 9
billyblima
Member
thats very true......... i have 3 to 4 600watt lights and 13 plants also room is not a problem.... the ventilation is propa and the temps is on...... 2 weeks veg and then im swithing them....... im aiming for 2 -3 z a plant
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blackburngrower
id top da hell outa ov em or try lst to get as many tops as u can and veg em a little longer ul see da benefits ov a little extra veg time
billyblima
Member
im also looking to take cuttings..............
top them in veg yeh
top them in veg yeh
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blackburngrower
yea top them in veg and take cuttings after a week in flower or u could keep one plant back n use it as a mother within a couple ov months u cud ov a mother dat will give u plenty ov cuttings 2 keep u going for years
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sparkjumper
I hope you can understand this because I speak pretty normally I think lol.Take 2-3 cuttings from towards the bottom of each plant.Ones that would only provide popcorn the ones many people remove as a matter of course.
billyblima
Member
jumper shut it...... yeh so as u were saying if i just keep a fem plant in veg mode for as lng as i want then i can just repeatedly take cuttings?
also i dnt kno if i want to do that as i am unaware of how gd this shiva skunk is.... if its standard then a few early cuttings aint so bad and ill just buy a 10 pack nyc diesel and have sum shiva in there.... keeping 1 plant bk cud cost me a few z u know... thatz lke 450... u feel me... we have to
for that type of paper... u frm the uk
blackburngrower
also i dnt kno if i want to do that as i am unaware of how gd this shiva skunk is.... if its standard then a few early cuttings aint so bad and ill just buy a 10 pack nyc diesel and have sum shiva in there.... keeping 1 plant bk cud cost me a few z u know... thatz lke 450... u feel me... we have to
for that type of paper... u frm the uk blackburngrower
