Either too much water or salt build up on NEW PLANTS!

[Mischief2JZ]

I am growing about 6 plants right now.
3xDurban Poison
2xChem Sour Diesel
1xPurple Cat Piss

They are doing just great, I actually TOPped all the plants today. There were on their 4th node. ANYWAYS, it seems as though the new fan leaves on the Durban Poisons (sativas) are curling downwards. If you want to imagine this, pretend the edges of the leaves are curled under looking like a long round green blunt, LOL.

Is this from salt build uP? I mean these babies are only on day 22!!!

Or is it too much watering?? WHEN SPOTS ON THE PLANTS TURN BLACK, DOES THAT MEAN THERE'S TOO MUCH WATER??? I NOTICED LIKE 5 SPOTS ON ALL PLANTS WITH BLACK STAINS ON THE FAN LEAVES..

When I transplanted, I definitely fed the plants a little too much. Becuase the rolled up fan leaves are REALLY VAINY. The vains are definitely noticeable.But I NEVER experienced anything like this. Is this normal for Durban poisons? Or am I just trippen??

The color, height, other fan leaves are perfectly fine. Its just the new fan leaves that are growing. they are actually growing pretty big now, but still the same rolled up leaves.

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How long has this problem been going on?=========3day
What STRAIN are you growing?=========Durban poison x3, Sour Diesel x2, Purple cat piss
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)====seed
What is the age of your plants?=======23 days old
How Tall are the plants?====all average 7 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?===vegetative
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)===SOG/LST
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)===6pots
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)====Pormix BX/FF chunky perlite/EWC
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* Botanicare liquid Karms, Problend pro bloom, liquid EWC, Natures Necter Nitrogen, Algamic kelp. I used everything 1/4 strength ONE time (my last time) except Pro Blend
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?===6.0pH?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?====6.8
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? pH meter pen
How often are you watering?====once every 3-4 days
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?===3 days ago
What size bulb are you using? 400w MH
What is the distance to the canopy? ====2 1/2 ft
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)======45%
What is the canopy temperature? ====78degrees
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) ==70-79
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 440 cfm for reflector/exhaust, 240 intake
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?====about 6 feet away
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? ====now its wet like crazy
Is your water HARD or SOFT?====soft (aerated for over 24 hours)
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? =====TAP aerated for 24-48 hours
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?===after the horrible feeding, I TOPped all the plants
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? ===Neem Oil
Are plant's infected with pest's? ==I saw one little bug but haven't noticed none

 

[rckymtnthuglife]

Sounds like overwatering or overfert to me. No pic. Sounds like you got the "claw" NOT enough info in your thread man.

 

[BudLove]

Yea I'd say a picture would really help... however, the ram's horn, droop or 'claw' as you've described is typical for over watering.

So roll with that assumption and do this: Stop watering them and wait... wait... as soon as the plant begins to show signs of needing water, water her. Now you have a timeframe to use. If it took 7 days before she showed signs of needing water, start watering her on the 6th day.

Otherwise, if you're just guessing, or watering her to have something to do - that most surely will kill her off quick.

BL

 

[rckymtnthuglife]

While BLove's right doing so will give you a time frame...that gets shorter as the plants get bigger.

The way I like to do it is the lift method. Lift a pot and you will be able to feel if it heavy, leave it alone. Once it feels like it is just a little heavier than a completely dry pot it's time to water. It's not going to kill your plants to let them droop a little before watering once you get it down you'll be able to water them shortly before the "droop"

 

[BudLove]

I agree with Rcky on this one... I too use the lift method. But in the beginning, and especially for those who are in-experienced in growing bud...this method can't really work.

Best bet is to follow the 'timeline method' until you begin to get a feel for how long your ladies can go on without water. Once comfortable then you will learn to 'know' when they need water - not based on when you're personally thirsty, when you feel like 'doing something' to your plants or when you WANT them to grow faster...

BL

 

[tree&leaf]

Is this from salt build uP? I mean these babies are only on day 22!!!

It is from over-fertilisation and salt buildup, it doesn't matter what day it is. You should NOT be feeding plants in vegetative growth at this stage. Let them take whatever nutrients they need from the soil, stop force-feeding them.

Repot them into larger pots with fresh soil and feed them plain water.

 

[MynameStitch]

Like others have said, pictures say a thousand words!