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Ecsd / Nycsd seeds

cfl...KING

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I really want to try the karma sour bx but it's out of stock everywhere I've ordered from before

What you guys think about El Chapo from the plug seedbank? Seems to have legit parents
 

kro-magnon

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Good luck to find some Karma SD Bx seeds, each drop he's done disappear immediately but you can find some crosses he has done with his Sour Diesel who are of very high quality, like Headbanger Sour Diesel x Biker Kush, it's a real gem and the only cross with SD as the mother available now. The other have been made with a SD Bx male like Sour Josh who seems to be of very high quality as well but I've not made those seeds unlike Headbanger, I've grown this strain for a few years with wonderful results, the buds have a wonderful smell and taste and the high is addictive.
Check karmagenetics.shop to find some seeds, I have not yet used this site but I plan to order from it for my next batch of seeds.
 

cfl...KING

Listen my username is from 07 lol
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Good luck to find some Karma SD Bx seeds, each drop he's done disappear immediately but you can find some crosses he has done with his Sour Diesel who are of very high quality, like Headbanger Sour Diesel x Biker Kush, it's a real gem and the only cross with SD as the mother available now. The other have been made with a SD Bx male like Sour Josh who seems to be of very high quality as well but I've not made those seeds unlike Headbanger, I've grown this strain for a few years with wonderful results, the buds have a wonderful smell and taste and the high is addictive.
Check karmagenetics.shop to find some seeds, I have not yet used this site but I plan to order from it for my next batch of seeds.

Sounds like your talking about El Chapo from the plug
 

Happy Times

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I really want to try the karma sour bx but it's out of stock everywhere I've ordered from before

What you guys think about El Chapo from the plug seedbank? Seems to have legit parents

Oh nice, forgot about that one. I think there’s an El Chapo thread somewhere on here. It does seem legit
 

kro-magnon

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Don't get El Chappo seeds when you can have some real Headbanger seeds from Karma that would be a shame to not get the original, all people who have grown those Headbanger had some great results. I have not read a lot of reports of el chapo but the one I've seen were mixed.
 

Eleutherios

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Yes, it is similar to sour diesel but I like it better.
You can ask directly on his instagram account akbeanbrains
ApeOrigin's Sour Diesel is a reproduction of Karma stock. I cannot attest to them yet, but have a pack on the way from Cannapot. They seem legit and if they were a rip off organization, something tells me that they'd be charging more than $20 some odd for the favor.
 

cfl...KING

Listen my username is from 07 lol
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Bumping this, while the El Chapo seeds were very good, there was one comment from a handful of old school testers "wish it had that smack you in the face sour stank". I do want to pick up a pack of karma's sour diesel but catching it while in stock is almost impossible lol.

So before I do a pheno hunt of 24-30 El Chapo seeds, looking for suggestions on breeders that have sour diesel in stock thanks
 

NEED 4 SEED

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ApeOrigin's Sour Diesel is a reproduction of Karma stock. I cannot attest to them yet, but have a pack on the way from Cannapot. They seem legit and if they were a rip off organization, something tells me that they'd be charging more than $20 some odd for the favor.
I strongly vote against Ape Origin. They are not breeders. Ape is a pollen chucker that slaps whatever onto whatever pheno in his tent. I grew the GSC S1 and it was the farthest I have ever seen away from any cookie type of plant. He just cashed in into the hype. Stay away...
 

Eleutherios

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I strongly vote against Ape Origin. They are not breeders. Ape is a pollen chucker that slaps whatever onto whatever pheno in his tent. I grew the GSC S1 and it was the farthest I have ever seen away from any cookie type of plant. He just cashed in into the hype. Stay away...
Girl Scout Cookies is an insanely unstable line. I have some issues with Phylos, based on their definitions and some of their behavior, but I think that their data at least reliably depicts how stabilized a line is. None of the Cookies or Cookie offshoot strains are remotely stabilized. There are what, 45 phenos of Gelato? THAT is pollen chucking. I mean, I know that they are all popular, but that just says that the line has potential; not that anyone seems to have bothered to stabilize it, in any real form or fashion. Anyways, you take something, that unstable, and then self it, why would you expect something, that was a spitting image of the cut, used to make it?

I haven't grown any of the ApeOrigin stuff yet. I got some OG freebies, via CannaPot, last year. I don't grow much without intense investigation first. So after looking at them, it seems like what they are really doing is creating reproductions of insanely overpriced strains and some preservationist stuff as well. How ethical is it to charge $16-20 a seed? Even if you breed the best stuff, if no one gets to grow it, what's the point? I am planning on documenting the grows entirely, then posting after editing. So that my ADHD/autistic, chronically overstressed ass doesn't just drop the ball on the thread. Judge then. Not telling you to do anything. Just trying to share information.
 

cfl...KING

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Exotic genetics are worth their weight in gold. When breeders are newer they typically are cheaper. But once the reputation is built prices go up. I have no problem paying 250$ for 10 fem Sour Diesel seeds if they are legit. I have many strains stashed away that I've paid up to 250$ for 10 seeds.

All the equipment, perfect environment, good nutes, doesn't mean anything if the genetics are bad. You'll end up wasting money on nutes an electricity.
 

Eleutherios

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Exotic genetics are worth their weight in gold. When breeders are newer they typically are cheaper. But once the reputation is built prices go up. I have no problem paying 250$ for 10 fem Sour Diesel seeds if they are legit. I have many strains stashed away that I've paid up to 250$ for 10 seeds.

All the equipment, perfect environment, good nutes, doesn't mean anything if the genetics are bad. You'll end up wasting money on nutes an electricity.
To each their own. If I were Exotic Genetics, I wouldn't feel right charging that much, no matter how good they were. It would just feel dishonest. Then again, cost doesn't equate to honesty on either end.

Yeah, cost does tend to go up with demand; not always though. Mandala's gear was cheaper once upon a time, for an example.
Bodhi could charge more and still sell seeds. It just seems like a better business model to keep things working class friendly, in terms of prices. These plants only exist because of the hard work of a whole bunch of people, over many, many generations. It seems more humble to do good work and charge a more moderate amount. Just my opinion though...
 
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