Eating Cannabis and me

[Cannabliss420]

Hi everyone,

so Iv noted some interesting events over the 10-11 years i have been using cannabis and was wondering if anyone else shares the same experience or if they have any in-sight.

so about me... iv always been interested in cooking and have always excelled at it. i ran a successful edible business here in CA for sometime many years back, with all Organic and Non-GMO products and with Gluten Free options. this was long before any other companies had organic edibles so i had distinguished myself from the rest, they were always boxed brownies or cookies etc. Hubbys chocolate bars had just released at the time as well. iv always been very precise and particular on how edibles should taste with maximum potency.

my problem is that i was never able to test the potency of my edibles. for some reason edibles dont effect me even except for 1 time, an experience im chasing. so i need to get to the bottom of this. its been a question iv had for sometime. iv always had to use other edible testers since everyone is different. i can walk around cannabis cups consuming many edibles along the way, while others cant hang with the dabs too. iv made edibles that made the testers fall asleep in 15min and knocked out into the next morning with 1 dosage, they dubbed these "too potent". but i have eaten 5 of these, 2 whole Hubby xxx hash oil bars and a 1000mg brownie on an empty stomach and felt nothing (i actually had to smoke later since i felt nothing for hours) or another time when i decarbed 1.8g BHO shatter and used into 2 cookies. the only time iv felt the effects... was quite an experience. it was before i started my edible company, i was in school at the time and had to go to class soon, i had my girlfriend make a batch of brownie/blondie swirl bars for a friend while i got ready. she said they just added a lil extra butter than the recipe asked for like we always had at the time so nothing seemed "new" by any means. i ate 1 on the way to class and had quite an experience to say the least...

i was finishing a test and was on the back page, had probably 7 questions left. my eyes started vibrating, swelling and tearing up. my nose started running and it became difficult to see the page properly. i knew it was coming on like i had never felt before so i rushed the rest of my answers. i turned it into my teacher and he asked if i was ok, i said "ya i think im having an allergy attack to something in the room.. maybe someone has a cat" (lol) i dont remember what he said as he judged my test scores, i somehow made it into my stepdad's truck and had him drive me home. i was falling asleep in the chair in a blissful state, full medicinal effect. i was in LOVE with the feeling, it was very powerful and made me realize this is the medicinal effect i need once in a while for pain relief with my muscle spasms and the lack of sleep associated with it. i made it home and realized where i was, i called my girlfriend and walked to meet her at her friends house nearby. when i got there, they could tell how slammed i was and couldnt help but laugh since they have never seen me that medicated on any marijuana.

from this point on, i chased that 1 time... trying to get medicated from edibles. iv tried BHO, Hash, Trim, Buds in many various forms of concentration into soluable fats. i have not been able to get there, i wonder why cannabis just goes right through me and isnt passed through the BBB. i do have GERD and bleeding ulcers, as well as a high metabolism.

but do you think this is the cause? what could it be? does anyone else share this experience? any tips anyone can make? iv baffled many other edible companies, baffled myself. does it baffle you? id love to be able to medicate with edibles once a week or even at night times if i could. it would also be quite $$ efficient since i wouldnt have to smoke so much. hope someone out there has some answers or atleast some info

 

[Swamp Thang]

Hello Cannablis, there might indeed be some truth to the reports that THC ingested in food produces widely variable effects even among those with high THC tolerance, from use of concentrates and such.

Sounds like your tolerance is way high fer sure, but it looks like the creative approach you stumbled on is getting you where you want to be.

I am very new to the idea of extracting TCH from herb with slow heat in coconut oil, and then using that oil in cookie batter, and so far I have found myself sedated and nodding off from THC eaten that way, while experiencing little of the "high" associated with firing up a joint, for example.

For my next batch of canna-coconut oil, I have decided to grind a much larger amount of herb into almost a powder so as to decarb and extract WAY more THC into the same volume of oil, in order to wind up with an oil required only in tiny amounts as an additive for baked goods.

 

[Donn]

I thought of this unusual case while reading an interview with Michelle Sexton, a local testing lab scientist.

... Additionally, “results may vary” across individuals particularly with edibles because liver enzyme metabolism will play a role in the potency.

So ... bearing in mind that I have no idea what I'm talking about ... maybe something you did prior to that one time, had some temporary effect on liver function. Ate something, took some over the counter allergy remedy, who knows. If you could duplicate the effect, big triumph for science.

 

[Tangwena]

Hi guys I gave up smoking years ago but I chew my decarbed buds and also make extracts mainly QWISO and cocanut butter. I would say everyone has different experiences depending on digestion/acid in the stomach. That is why I melt the coco nut butter on my tongue rather than swallow it and when I chew a piece of bud I chew it for about 5 mins untill it is powder.
I have multiple strains to choose from all grown by me. Something I have found over the years is a strain that gives a good high when smoked does not allways get you high when ingested sometimes they are very weak when eaten.
Others work both when smoked and eaten. I have strains C99, Thai tanic and silver haze that give mild stoney effect when eaten but racey high when smoked.
The sativas Golden Tiger and Zamaldelica that I am currently useing are very trippy and crazy like acid when decarbed and chewed or extracted into coca nut butter, but the decarbing needs to be done with precision or they become very stoney sedative type no high at all.
The secret is either a long cure 12 months min or decarbing done with precision and temp control regulated properly, then the full spectrum of the high is brought out.
However just because a bud is full of resin does not make it a good edible source, it has to have the ability to lift you up and trip you out or it will be just another stoney tired day. Eat enough and it will knock you out but not give you anything else, unless a narcotic is what you are after I think high grade sativas or sativa dominant crosses are best suited to making edibles to have a good trippy day with. IMHO.
Tangwena

 

[JointOperation]

so which liver enzymes do we need to focus on to get these things to work better or.. not at all.. I feel this could change a lot for people who want to use marijuana as a medicine but not feel the affects as we all know thc and cbd and other terpenes all have there effect on people.

also.. what id like to know is.. does it mean.. that if your not able to feel edibles .. that they wont work for things like tumors and cancer ?.. or does that mean.. the people who need lots of edibles.. but cant handle the high.. should focus on this liver enzyme to be able to consume tons of oils.. without the TAP OUT of being too high or sleepy?

 

[blastfrompast]

Joint Operation:

I like your idea at the end, up the dose without greening the patient out...

So for those who don't get high, are they just excreting it out their rear end?

 

[Gry]

I would be real inclined to think that if you could reconstruct carefully what you ate on the day it "worked" for you, that you would find, the potentiator which was unique to that day, and experience for you.

 

[waveguide]

woah gross thread title


i once ran a bananana business for over 10-11 years and bananana doesn't affect me, except this one time.

 

[InGhostgrower]

Im the same was as the op... I always just thought maybe I just smoke to much and my tolerance is high. I even have friends that wont eat my edibles because there to strong.
The way I always gauge the strength of them is, I eat one around 7 or 8pm. Then if I wake up and feel like I got hit by a mack truck (seriously a hangover almost like after a night of drinking) there to strong. If I have an uninterrupted night of sleep with no hangover there just right... I toss and turn at night so edibles do help with that but the high some people describe I do not get

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Ghost all I can think is you have the wrong strain because I have found some are very dull eaten but ok smoked and visa versa.
If you get the right strain (potent sativa in my book) and decarb and extract well, provided it was grown well, harvested at the right time, shit there is so much besides the stomach acid to get right.
If its good weed it will work well given all the above.
Tangwena