Earth Juice - Anything you want to bring up!!!

[FinestKind]

Satellite Internet + TOR (The Onion Router)= Duplicate Posts. Sorry all.

 

[FinestKind]

I'm not sure about that "not organic" claim- I'm too lazy to go get a bottle right now, but I'm pretty sure everything in it is A-OK... and yeah, it is pretty cheap too. Compared to say, Canna's organic line, or General Organics, it's a bargain. I mean, making your own is pretty much guaranteed to be cheaper, but most of us are too lazy, right? I know I am!

The thing about the EJ Grow is that it is, I'm sure you all know, a pain in the ass to use... if it's not organic on top of it all, what's the damn point?

Zendo, with that recommendation, perhaps I'll figure out a way to work it into my next schedule!

FK

 

[kannubis]

Escentials for the spoiled ladies out there, eh. Other than the scent does it enhance growth?

 

[Tactical Farmer]

EARTH JUICE GROW - (2-1-1)

bat guano
kelp
sulfate of potash
feather meal
oat bran
blood meal
steamed bone meal

Earth Juice Escential Spray

Kelp
Quinoa
Eucalyptus
Orange capsicum
Rosemary
Patchouli
Tea tree
Lemon grass
Cloves
Lavender
Ginger
Molasses
Citric acid

Grow not organic - really ?

Escential has no listed NPK & states its not a fertilizer but that fungus wasn't eating air.

 

[kannubis]

Quinoa is an interesting component. Looking at the list you put up TF kicked my brain into wonder mode. Gonna have to wiki all the ingredients now to learn more.
Thanks

 

[kannubis]

It appears most of the ingredients have both pest preventative and aromatic qualities.
$15 a quart to make poo smell like flowers ain't too bad neither. Gonna have to give some a chance. I know their rooters myco works.

 

[Fraggle Rock]

If anyone wants to check the ingredients of Earth Juice products, Tactical Farmer has an awesome breakdown here https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=125402&highlight=earth+juice - Great EJ thread most of you know about, but for anyone wondering if EJ is organic...

 

[rushchaser]

Sounds good thanks FR

 

[Tactical Farmer]

Quinoa is an interesting component. Looking at the list you put up TF kicked my brain into wonder mode. Gonna have to wiki all the ingredients now to learn more.
Thanks

It would be a BIG help if your into checking out whats up with Mircoblast since your diggin' elements ?

Earth Juice Microblast - (1-0-0)

kelp meal
magnesium sulfate
borax
cobalt sulfate
ferrous sulfate
manganese sulfate
sodium molybdate
zinc sulfate

* Microblast tests out to the following percentages . . . Magnesium (Mg) .05%, Boron (B) .02%, Cobalt (Co) .0005%, Iron (Fe) .10%, Manganese (Mn) .05%, Molybdenum (Mo) .0005%, Zinc (Zn) .05%.
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Kinda looks strange to me - if I can't properly say the ingredient it makes me feel strange ?

You should Wiki that shit dude - im to high..

 

[Tactical Farmer]

WWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Sodium molybdate,

Na2MoO4, is useful as a source of molybdenum.[1] It is often found as the dihydrate, Na2MoO4·2H2O.

The molybdate(VI) anion is tetrahedral. Two sodium cations coordinate with every one anion.[2]
Contents
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* 1 History
* 2 Uses
* 3 Reactions
* 4 Safety
* 5 See also
* 6 References
* 7 External links

[edit] History

Sodium molybdate was first synthesized by the method of hydration.[3] A more convenient synthesis is done by dissolving MoO3 in sodium hydroxide at 50–70 °C and crystallizing the filtered product.[2] The anhydrous salt is prepared by heating to 100 °C.

MoO3 + 2NaOH → Na2MoO4·2H2O

[edit] Uses

The agriculture industry uses 1 million pounds per year as a fertilizer. In particular, its use has been suggested for treatment of whiptail in broccoli and cauliflower in molybdenum-deficient soils.[4][5] However, care must be taken because at a level of 0.3 ppm sodium molybdate can cause copper deficiencies in animals, particularly cattle.[2]

It is used in industry for corrosion inhibition, as it is a non-oxidizing anodic inhibitor.[2] The addition of sodium molybdate significantly reduces the nitrite requirement of fluids inhibited with nitrite-amine, and improves the corrosion protection of carboxylate salt fluids.[6]
[edit] Reactions

When reacted with sodium borohydride, molybdenum is reduced to a lower valent oxide:[7]

Na2MoO4 + NaBH4 + 2H2O→ NaBO2 + MoO2 + 2NaOH+ 3 H2

Sodium molybdate reacts with the acids of dithiophosphates:[2]

Na2MoO4 + (RO)2PS2H (R = Me, Et) → [MoO2(S2P(OR)2)2]

which further reacts to form [MoO3(S2P(OR)2)4].
[edit] Safety

Sodium molybdate is incompatible with alkali metals, most common metals and oxidizing agents. It will explode on contact with molten magnesium. It will violently react with interhalogens (e.g., bromine pentafluoride; chlorine trifluoride). Its reaction with hot sodium, potassium or lithium is incandescent.[8]
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What the hell is that - me no likey ?

 

[liquidmaco]

was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what they supplement their EJ regimen with? only organic stuff of course...

are most of you using ej to supplement meals in amended soils?

 

[FinestKind]

WWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Sodium molybdate,

Na2MoO4, is useful as a source of molybdenum.[1] It is often found as the dihydrate, Na2MoO4·2H2O.

The molybdate(VI) anion is tetrahedral. Two sodium cations coordinate with every one anion.[2]
Contents
[hide]

* 1 History
* 2 Uses
* 3 Reactions
* 4 Safety
* 5 See also
* 6 References
* 7 External links

[edit] History

Sodium molybdate was first synthesized by the method of hydration.[3] A more convenient synthesis is done by dissolving MoO3 in sodium hydroxide at 50–70 °C and crystallizing the filtered product.[2] The anhydrous salt is prepared by heating to 100 °C.

MoO3 + 2NaOH → Na2MoO4·2H2O

[edit] Uses

The agriculture industry uses 1 million pounds per year as a fertilizer. In particular, its use has been suggested for treatment of whiptail in broccoli and cauliflower in molybdenum-deficient soils.[4][5] However, care must be taken because at a level of 0.3 ppm sodium molybdate can cause copper deficiencies in animals, particularly cattle.[2]

It is used in industry for corrosion inhibition, as it is a non-oxidizing anodic inhibitor.[2] The addition of sodium molybdate significantly reduces the nitrite requirement of fluids inhibited with nitrite-amine, and improves the corrosion protection of carboxylate salt fluids.[6]
[edit] Reactions

When reacted with sodium borohydride, molybdenum is reduced to a lower valent oxide:[7]

Na2MoO4 + NaBH4 + 2H2O→ NaBO2 + MoO2 + 2NaOH+ 3 H2

Sodium molybdate reacts with the acids of dithiophosphates:[2]

Na2MoO4 + (RO)2PS2H (R = Me, Et) → [MoO2(S2P(OR)2)2]

which further reacts to form [MoO3(S2P(OR)2)4].
[edit] Safety

Sodium molybdate is incompatible with alkali metals, most common metals and oxidizing agents. It will explode on contact with molten magnesium. It will violently react with interhalogens (e.g., bromine pentafluoride; chlorine trifluoride). Its reaction with hot sodium, potassium or lithium is incandescent.[8]
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What the hell is that - me no likey ?

Huh, not so organic, eh? Maybe there is no organic source of Mo.... hmmmm.

 

[Tactical Farmer]

was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what they supplement their EJ regimen with? only organic stuff of course...

are most of you using ej to supplement meals in amended soils?

Earth Juice
Grow 2-1-1
Bloom 0-3-1
Catalyst
Root Stock
Escential

Advanced Nutrients
Wet Betty Organic 0-0-1
Sweet Leaf 0-0-1
Enggy Fulvic 1-0.75-1.5
Enggy Humic 1-0.75-1.5
Enggy Seaweed 1.5-1.5-1.5
Piranah Powder
Tarantula Powder
Juicy Roots

Fox Farm
Big Bloom 0.01-0.3-0.7


Metanaturals
Bloom 1-5-5
Calcium

General Hydroponics
Liquid Karma 0.1-0.1-0.5


Other
Hygrozyme
Maxicrop Seaweed 0-0-1
Dyna-Gro – Neem Oil
Wilt Pruf Anti Wilt Spray

Dry Fert

Piece of Mind
All Purpose 5-5-5
Fruit & Flower 5-8-4

Desert Bat Guano 8-4-1
Super Swell Guano 0-7-0

Espoma
Bio Tone 4-3-3
Greensand 0-0-0.1
Cottonseed Meal 6-2-1
Bone Meal 4-12-0
Blood Meal 12-0-0
Gypsum

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=178219

Just small amounts of this & that.

 

[Dorje113]

was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what they supplement their EJ regimen with? only organic stuff of course...

are most of you using ej to supplement meals in amended soils?

I think it's better to use EJ to supplement dry ferts. I use whatever is in stock at local garden centers, and add it to my (re-used) soil every cycle.

Earthworm Castings
Guanos
Kelp
Bone Meal
Blood Meal
Fine Dolomite Lime
Carbon Granules

etc...

 

[kannubis]

Hey TF,
the percentage of the sodium molybdate is super low. Plain old sodium will go boom upon exposure to oxygen. My take on it is it is a trace element in the mix. Not to say it is good, but it is so minimal that I personally would not be alarmed. I am new to organic growing. I am certain it is less harmful than the chem ferts I used before though. It may not be 100% organic, but I would call it close enough for gubmint werk. Who knows, alaska fish ferts might have higher concentrations than that if they were to be analyzed, just from the pollution pipples have introduced into the pescado's habitat.

 

[asstastic]

was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what they supplement their EJ regimen with? only organic stuff of course...

are most of you using ej to supplement meals in amended soils?

for ej grow i use with ewc,high n bat guano, and molasses
for ej bloom i use ewc, low n bat guano, and molasses for first two weeks of flo
then for the rest of flo i use ej bloom, high p guano, molasses
thats the old reg now for flo i have started adding ff beastly blooms and cha ching instead of the guanos hope that helps
oh ya this produced some killer chron but the ff are wounder if your not all organic crazy

 

[liquidmaco]

glad to see people weighing in here. im def. going to grab some guanos and some maxicrop. since i plan to recycle my soil from now on (why would this not have happened sooner?) i am going to amend with some blood bone lime and other stuff also. and the more i read around here the more i feel i should use molasses. TF your crazy thanks. lots of advanced in there i know nothing ab them really. didnt know they had that much organic stuff

 

[Jdizzel]

Just gonna throw this out here but how often are you guy using ur bloom and Gauna and mollassas? once a week , every watering, every other? anybody got there schedule down to a science? I know the best way it too look at the damn thing and tell what it needs but i am not that experinced at this shit yet and kinda aiming for more of a schedule.
Thanks guys and please help!

 

[liquidmaco]

no feedback yet huh JD. i wish i could tell you but i havent really dialed it out yet myself. esp with the guanos and molasses. i did find that guys bit about "beware of the schedule trap" or something along those lines, very interesting. it makes sense but i am new to this organics being a convert from PBP and other botanicare salts.

 

[Jdizzel]

i understand that you are sopsed to give a plant what it needs by looking at it but until i get to that point i would like to see if anybody out there has a schedule of what to be useing with earth juice. I have everything that i have used marked on my calender but i would like to compare it to someone who know what the hell they are doing as I am new to this.
Thanks Liquidmaco i will stick it out and see if anybody has this all down to a science.
GO EARTHJUICE!!!!
here is a pic of where i am at with useing earthjuice on my first grow I am just coming up on the end of the third week of bloom