dwc big bud reveg?

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i have no idea how this happened.

i have my first mother on my first grow. she is a big bud under a 400w mh. she's about three feet tall and nice and bushy.

i was getting ready to start producing clones and i switched her from a 24/0 to a 14/10 (light/dark) to save a little on electricity and try to inhibit her growth a little bit.

today, after about two weeks or so under 14/10, i noticed that she is budding. i thought that a 12/12 produced this result. what happened?

anyway i need to reveg her and i would like to do it asap so i can start with the cloning.

should i switch back to a 24/0 and leave it at that, or should i trim all of the budding branches and then go to a 24/0, or should i do something else? should i change the nute formula around at all to emphasize certain nutrients over others? any other tips?

i really need to understand how i messed up so i never do it again.

well at least i know she is definitely a female now and the proto-buds look very nice.

 

[Weedhound]

Anything under sixteen hours of light a day can trigger a female plant to start flowering.

I don't really know what to tell you about whether to attempt to go back to 24/0 and what kind of stress it would place on the plant.

Why not try cloning while she's in flower? I've heard some folks have had very good success with it.

 

[The_Leader]

most of my clones come from what i "prune" off budding plants. i usually let them go about a week in 12/12 then prune/clone.

weedhound is right about stress if you re vert, but if it started bud on I4? i wonder if it is in full bud or a slow change over as w/outdoors due to the I4?

what you think weedhound? stitch?

 

[KABBAGE]

You need atleast 18 hours of light to sustain good vegitative growth.
YES - throw it back under 24 hour light to get her to kick back into veg. The budding sites can be left intact for now, sometimes the plant will outgrow that and bounce back into veg, but regardless, leave them on for a few more days so that you dont stress the plant out even more by removing its vegitation.
Cloning a week or 2 into flower does work well too btw!.

 

[Weedhound]

most of my clones come from what i "prune" off budding plants. i usually let them go about a week in 12/12 then prune/clone.

weedhound is right about stress if you re vert, but if it started bud on I4? i wonder if it is in full bud or a slow change over as w/outdoors due to the I4?

what you think weedhound? stitch?

Ya got me......i'll go with the rest of the flow on that q......

 

[stinkyattic]

I'd go to 24/0, reasonably strong blue light (I reveg under 'cool white' shop lights when necessary), and hit her with a dose of SuperThrive. Don't overdo it... a drop or 2 per gallon is plenty.
If you can get the bud-sites trimmed down to, well, LESS, without taking off too much, then by all means do so.

 

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thanks for the information everyone.

i have gone back to 24/0 and i am thinking about removing the budding sites since they are clustered towards the tops of the branches. but i am not going to for four or five days maybe depending on how things work.

 

[Weedhound]

Stinky makes an excellent point about not removing the entire bract. (sp?)....in the bottom say...quarter of them there are dormant growth hormones that will assist with new growth later. Try cutting about 1/2 to 2/3 of the bract off and leaving the rest.

 

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i have removed about 1/2 of the budding branches four days ago and the plant seems to be doing alright.

it is exhibiting signs of various nute deficiencies and it is trying to bud more sites, so i figure that it is using a lot of energy trying to reproduce even though it has been under 24/0 light for some time now. i have put in a fresh nute solution and the deficiences are abating.

are there still some budding hormones in its system that are causing it to try and make fresh buds despite the 24/0 cycle? should i trim off those branches now? should i trim the root mass? anything else?

 

[MynameStitch]

Ya, use 24/0 light for a week when you reveg them so when they revert back you can change the lighting if you want too, but keeping the light on 24/0 all the time is a waste, the plants don't take in light 24 hours a day, they take what they need and stop and rest and will stop photosynthesis and resume when they need too. Going back to grow ferts right away can help too.