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Dude,where are my buds??!
- Thread starter Blaz3
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Good job..Glad to see they pulled through....
Yeehaaaaaaa!!!
Nice work Blazini good to see those girls are flowering now!
When those lights turn off spend a quick minute in there checking your room is dark yo.. Just wave your hand in front of your face if you cant see anything thats perfect yo.. Check every week or 2 just to make sure shit isnt slipping.
Other than that your girls lookin good,, keep up the work and keep studying up! Be sure to post any questions you may have..
Peace
Darth
Nice work Blazini good to see those girls are flowering now!
When those lights turn off spend a quick minute in there checking your room is dark yo.. Just wave your hand in front of your face if you cant see anything thats perfect yo.. Check every week or 2 just to make sure shit isnt slipping.
Other than that your girls lookin good,, keep up the work and keep studying up! Be sure to post any questions you may have..
Peace
Darth
Blaz3
Member
Haha thanks homies..and Darth,I HAVE..and nothing..and I cant really do it that easily cus its a VERY tighth fit in there haha..the opening is a zipper,and I literally have to take out all plants from the closet,climb my ass in there..put the plants back..and trust me yesterday I pulled my back doing that kinda shit ;[...so now I not only have a busted knee,but a pulled back haha...
There MIGHTH be a damn lighthleak..I cant be 100% sure..but I think Im 90% that there isnt..haha...shit I promise my next round is gonna be legit man..and I invite ya beforehand haha
There MIGHTH be a damn lighthleak..I cant be 100% sure..but I think Im 90% that there isnt..haha...shit I promise my next round is gonna be legit man..and I invite ya beforehand haha
looking good bro! 
This is one of my rare posts, cant beleive i actually read through this whole thread. Just had a few questions for ya Blaz3. Just curious to what kind of setup you are running as well as what nutes you are using? I must say i do not agree with a number of your post or rants i should say as most have already pointed out. I too was once a noob trying to find my way through the world of canibus cultivation and because of this site and this site alone i have been able to educate myself and as well as others. ive tried growing in soil, rockwool, clay pellets and coco. My personal preference of medium is coco indoors due to the relative ease and end results. Outdoors i perfer organic soil and amemdments with a touch of guano teas and have achieved fantastic results. I would like to try an indoor run with organic soil to see how it fares. Good luck with your grow and keeping a positive attitude in the forums as well away from them.
Blaz3
Member
Hello Nitrain..thank you for your post man..Im honored you hardly post,and found it fit to post in MY humble thread ;]..
I will say,that yes,sometimes my anger gets the better of me..I do have issues I have to work out...some days are harder than the rest you know man?...
I believe we are all brothers,in the same cause,so when I see a post poking fun of ANY noob,not just me..I instantly get defensive..respect is such an overlooked thing in the online world..Just the other day,I got a negrep for NO reason but posting my opinion..and yes it did anger me..I will NEVER in my life,ever,give someone a negrep...
I ENCOURAGE debating..its the only way to make progress!..but respect is first hand.
Enough with my speech lol...I will answer you.
Strains: Herijuana,Ko Kush,AK48
Medium: Pure Botanicare coco coir
Pot: Beer cup in veg,1gallon in flower
method: topped,vegged for 21 days,gave 36h of dark before 12/12....
nutrients: different kinds...i had alot of samples..so pureblend pro...and cns17..liquid karma,liquid seaweed...mollases....botanicare sweet,botanicare zho...
I must say,the buds are smaller than I expected..BUT I did flower them very small....and they DID stretch ALOT in the first few weeks..so maybe now that theyv finally stopped stretching..they will focus on building flowers...here is an example
HERE THEY ARE BEFORE 36H DARK:
hERE THEY ARE 6 DAYS INTO 12/12:
I will say,that yes,sometimes my anger gets the better of me..I do have issues I have to work out...some days are harder than the rest you know man?...
I believe we are all brothers,in the same cause,so when I see a post poking fun of ANY noob,not just me..I instantly get defensive..respect is such an overlooked thing in the online world..Just the other day,I got a negrep for NO reason but posting my opinion..and yes it did anger me..I will NEVER in my life,ever,give someone a negrep...
I ENCOURAGE debating..its the only way to make progress!..but respect is first hand.
Enough with my speech lol...I will answer you.
Strains: Herijuana,Ko Kush,AK48
Medium: Pure Botanicare coco coir
Pot: Beer cup in veg,1gallon in flower
method: topped,vegged for 21 days,gave 36h of dark before 12/12....
nutrients: different kinds...i had alot of samples..so pureblend pro...and cns17..liquid karma,liquid seaweed...mollases....botanicare sweet,botanicare zho...
I must say,the buds are smaller than I expected..BUT I did flower them very small....and they DID stretch ALOT in the first few weeks..so maybe now that theyv finally stopped stretching..they will focus on building flowers...here is an example
HERE THEY ARE BEFORE 36H DARK:
hERE THEY ARE 6 DAYS INTO 12/12:
Well, I've come back to this thread - yes low temps slow growth...
But I've have seen time and time again - when MAN tries to alter the process of nature and how it functions - we screw it up.
It has taken a number of years for indoor horticulture to become as progressive as it is and certainly as knowledge increases so do the facts surrounding said knowledge.
That aside - there are just certain processes that people don't take the time to understand...
I have just recently realized - the ONLY reason cannabis is able to flower so rapidly indoors - as a result of 12/12 - from the ONSET - we have triggered the genetically encoded process of senescence. We tell the plant it is fall - this we know. However - fall is technically THE BEGINNING OF THE END - not the START of flower. We really FORCE death to the plant by using a controlled lighting schedule. That is why a plant may flower in 8wks indoors vs say 12-14 outdoors. We have essentially SKIPPED a part of the plants life cycle by taking it from early spring to fall so rapidly. Study up on senescence - very fascinating topic when you relate it to what we do in an indoor garden in regards to how much we feed / continue to push a plant in flower like it is going through an entire cycle.
Indoor horticulture has been geared and revolves around human needs - ie things that are pleasing to the end consumer or the producer. Yield, density, bud shape, plant structure, etc...
How much are we taking away from the plant -again - by not letting the plant be the judge of it's own needs. This is exactly why I am a proponent of a fully organic approach - let the plant do it's own thing...no force feeding and inject the roots.
I don't give my plants 'roid rage ... and NATURALLY about 5wks in usually I start to see the first signs of yellowing and the full effects of senescence are being realized - where most freak out and feed - I smile and KNOW I'm going to have some EXTREMELY cleaning burning and tasty medicine - more representative of the genetics - than the nutrient company.
I have a hard time understanding your comment about NOT following nature - to me, that just seems so backwards and fallacious ...
I'll convert you and baptize you in some alfalfa meal, bat poop, and nettle FPE yet...
Well said Frank. I am a huge advocate for mother nature..I really do think shes as close to perfect as something can get and certainly far more superior than any indoor garden would be. I am far from being a gifted gardener but when I look to make improvments I often think how can i make my set up more like mother nature?
dank.Frank
Blaz3..plants look alright in the pics I saw.Plants only 13 days into flower are going to have small buds.They look happy
Keep an open mind.I'm a firm believer we can learn something from everyone..GL
Every plant grows differently ... some mature faster - some pack on weight last two weeks. Just give them what they need and don't interfer with them too much. Let them grow and be patient...
Looking good!
dank.Frank
Looking good!
dank.Frank
thats what happens when you usher seedlings into flower... depending on a few things like container size, soil quality, light intensity/environment some seedlings may or may not even produce a cola... instead just a single top bud with popcorn type buds symmetrically down the stem at the nodes like I see in your pics.
grow from clones or vegetate your seedlings longer and then you should see cola formation by day 28-35 usually but sometimes longer it all depends on the strain.
the plants look pretty healthy!
peace,
Infi
Blaz3
Member
Infinite..shit that sounds scary..then whats with the 12/12 from start thing?...Its the first time this has happened..Iv always flowered at day 21veg..and have colas by 3weeks 12/12....
Also,do you think the buds will get bigger or "join"...what do you predict..
soil quality is good(coco coir)....,temp is 75f.......400hps......
Also,do you think the buds will get bigger or "join"...what do you predict..
soil quality is good(coco coir)....,temp is 75f.......400hps......
based on what I see and plants that I have done that to... I would guess that the internode distance is much to large for most of those Budlets to grow into and join the tops, as usually once floral clusters have began growing the plant has diverted all its energy away from growing longer branches so those buds won't join unless they are almost already there and will meet by simply swelling as they begin to mature and ripen.
for instance...
see the plant in the lower right hand corner...
follow the mack logo from dales hat to left until you come to 2 little buds on the opposite sides of the stem those will never grow into the top bud if thats what you are asking... but the next sets above them have a chance!
I think thats what you wanted to know..
for instance...
see the plant in the lower right hand corner...
follow the mack logo from dales hat to left until you come to 2 little buds on the opposite sides of the stem those will never grow into the top bud if thats what you are asking... but the next sets above them have a chance!
I think thats what you wanted to know..
Blaz3
Member
Lol..Dale's hat..and yes thank you..either way these strains are known for so called "golfball" nugs..will they atleast fatten up?....
What would you say they look like in terms of bud size?...
Now I know this question will seem stupid...but by the way it looks NOW..would I be a fool to think I can yield ATLEAST 2 ounces?....obviously you cant tell,but what is your estimate?....
What would you say they look like in terms of bud size?...
Now I know this question will seem stupid...but by the way it looks NOW..would I be a fool to think I can yield ATLEAST 2 ounces?....obviously you cant tell,but what is your estimate?....
Ive gotten almost 4 oz under a 400w from only four plants with four tops each in one gallon containers, which isn't even a lot... so its possible for sure.
they should fatten up how much IDK, but quite a bit from the looks of it... they look like Sativa plants @ 17-21 days... I think the lack of veg time really hurt them in terms of maturation and probably bud size too.
just stick with them without over fertilizing or anything and you should be fine... Live and learn.
Peace,
Infi
they should fatten up how much IDK, but quite a bit from the looks of it... they look like Sativa plants @ 17-21 days... I think the lack of veg time really hurt them in terms of maturation and probably bud size too.
just stick with them without over fertilizing or anything and you should be fine... Live and learn.
Peace,
Infi
I used to run 400w in 2x2 w/ 5k btu A/C - used soil with perlite, lime and EWC added. Feed using Botanicare line as well.
I would run 9 plants, lolli-popped (top 14-16" left intact, rest stripped bare) in 1.7gal "rose buckets" and pulled roughly 6-9oz depending on strain. Plants were vegged to about 15" before flower...about 8-10 internodes. When pruning @ 3wks plants were about 24-28" - would prune all but the top 12". Plants were then left alone - colas stacked and fillled in. Plants would finish about 3ft. and have fat single cola tops weighing between 22-40g each...obviously strains vary.
Penetration of a 400w is not that intense given a dense canopy...or if moved more than 12" above the plants.
Just need to learn how to best utilize your space...and FINE TUNE YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
dank.Frank
I would run 9 plants, lolli-popped (top 14-16" left intact, rest stripped bare) in 1.7gal "rose buckets" and pulled roughly 6-9oz depending on strain. Plants were vegged to about 15" before flower...about 8-10 internodes. When pruning @ 3wks plants were about 24-28" - would prune all but the top 12". Plants were then left alone - colas stacked and fillled in. Plants would finish about 3ft. and have fat single cola tops weighing between 22-40g each...obviously strains vary.
Penetration of a 400w is not that intense given a dense canopy...or if moved more than 12" above the plants.
Just need to learn how to best utilize your space...and FINE TUNE YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
dank.Frank
