dual spectrum or standard hps during flower ?

[nabzter]

Ok so dual spectrum bulbs are clearly better for veg but I have seen various opinions on the flowering stage.

Has anyone had the oportunity ton do a comparitive grow using the same strain ?

Would love some feedback

 

[Ratzilla]

Ok so dual spectrum bulbs are clearly better for veg but I have seen various opinions on the flowering stage.

Has anyone had the oportunity ton do a comparitive grow using the same strain ?

Would love some feedback

Do you mean this bulb?
https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/88210/PX-LU1000MHDA.html

I only used it this run finishing the last 2 weeks of veg and the first 3 weeks of bloom to see if I could notice anything.
While the plants finished up much on the CHUNKY side
the jury is still out until the weigh inn.
The plants are still hanging.
Its the old argument of MH vs. HPS

 

[CoCoSativas]

Ok so dual spectrum bulbs are clearly better for veg but I have seen various opinions on the flowering stage.

Has anyone had the oportunity ton do a comparitive grow using the same strain ?

Would love some feedback

I just use hps for flower, dual arc or using 2 bulbs is a waste of money in my eyes.

I have heard excellent results people using hortilux blue and sunmaster full nova bulbs and I plan on testing a sunmaster full nova vs hps but thats a few months away. Solis tek also makes one sold as a finisher but I imagine it would kick major ass the whole way through.

I wouldnt bother with dual acr but ceramic metal halide or similar full spectum halides id use. Im also interested in a few different leds, which are finally starting to get there.

 

[Ratzilla]

I just use hps for flower, dual arc or using 2 bulbs is a waste of money in my eyes.

I have heard excellent results people using hortilux blue and sunmaster full nova bulbs and I plan on testing a sunmaster full nova vs hps but thats a few months away. Solis tek also makes one sold as a finisher but I imagine it would kick major ass the whole way through.

I wouldnt bother with dual acr but ceramic metal halide or similar full spectum halides id use. Im also interested in a few different leds, which are finally starting to get there.

Maybe 5-6 years ago I got all excited about a couple of LED's.
I got two 205 w that fit in my little space perfectly
.
I did some research and at the time I thought that I bought the best that was available.
I paid a snotfull for them. Around $1400 but if they worked I thought that over time I would get that back in energy savings.
Well err right from the get go I hated them, at least dislike them a lot.
It was that planted Pluto lighting purplish color that took my growers eye and made everything look weird.
Now that's me.
I thought that I would at least try them in vegetating.
Again I felt like I was growing miniature plants of what I was used to.
I decided to go to a MH 1000 to flower these little plants thinking maybe they will put on size under this 1000w Hortilux.
The short answerer is they never did.
Quite disappointed on my LED journey I was.
It took me two years to find a buyer at half the money that I paid for them.
So when I hear of peeps that say they want to try LED's a sigh escapes my lips.
I also have tried a Ceramic Metal Halide at the time the best price was around $70.
It was the CMH PAR chart that made me want to try that bulb.
After a couple of try's running that bulb I went back to others.
As great as it PAR chart was I felt that I had some immobile uptake problems when running that bulb.
Those problems went away growing under a different spectrum.
Hortilux bulbs were my favorite until their prices went through the roof.
I can still find a EYE Hortilux 400w for like $60 but a 1000 w is around $175-200.
I have since moved on to Plantmax bulbs.
For what its worth I see no difference between a $200 bulb and or a $50.
Now what I found that made the biggest gains is going from magnetic type ballast to electronic.
They who ever they may be say that lumens (brightness) doesn't matter.
The same bulbs lit up with a electronic ballast burns brighter (more light) then when struck with a magnetic types.
I have also got my best yields under a electronic vs a magnetic.
Oh the learning curve is great grasshopper.
Ratz

 

[wingdings]

Sry you had a bad experience w LEDs rat. I spent about the same and have been out yielding my 1000w hps & mh combo with 600w of cree lighting. Quality is greater as well. Yes that last bud is fluffy, but she's a 100% sativa.

 

[GSPfan]

Mh for everything. Maybe you will yield a touch less but plants will be healthy and frosty as fuck. This is my experience anyways.

 

[Ratzilla]

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Sry you had a bad experience w LEDs rat. I spent about the same and have been out yielding my 1000w hps & mh combo with 600w of cree lighting. Quality is greater as well. Yes that last bud is fluffy, but she's a 100% sativa.

Just beautiful it is!
A drool shot for sure.
Rats

 

[CoCoSativas]

Maybe 5-6 years ago I got all excited about a couple of LED's.
I got two 205 w that fit in my little space perfectly
.
I did some research and at the time I thought that I bought the best that was available.
I paid a snotfull for them. Around $1400 but if they worked I thought that over time I would get that back in energy savings.
Well err right from the get go I hated them, at least dislike them a lot.
It was that planted Pluto lighting purplish color that took my growers eye and made everything look weird.
Now that's me.
I thought that I would at least try them in vegetating.
Again I felt like I was growing miniature plants of what I was used to.
I decided to go to a MH 1000 to flower these little plants thinking maybe they will put on size under this 1000w Hortilux.
The short answerer is they never did.
Quite disappointed on my LED journey I was.
It took me two years to find a buyer at half the money that I paid for them.
So when I hear of peeps that say they want to try LED's a sigh escapes my lips.
I also have tried a Ceramic Metal Halide at the time the best price was around $70.
It was the CMH PAR chart that made me want to try that bulb.
After a couple of try's running that bulb I went back to others.
As great as it PAR chart was I felt that I had some immobile uptake problems when running that bulb.
Those problems went away growing under a different spectrum.
Hortilux bulbs were my favorite until their prices went through the roof.
I can still find a EYE Hortilux 400w for like $60 but a 1000 w is around $175-200.
I have since moved on to Plantmax bulbs.
For what its worth I see no difference between a $200 bulb and or a $50.
Now what I found that made the biggest gains is going from magnetic type ballast to electronic.
They who ever they may be say that lumens (brightness) doesn't matter.
The same bulbs lit up with a electronic ballast burns brighter (more light) then when struck with a magnetic types.
I have also got my best yields under a electronic vs a magnetic.
Oh the learning curve is great grasshopper.
Ratz

Ok so yes digital ballasts light bulbs better. This is a well known fact, they have demonstrated this with par and lux, the explanation is the bulb is more consintantly lit when pulsing 50-60 thousand times or more my gavitas are way higher, a second vs 60 times a second, the bulb spends more time discharging energy.

Oh look into bmls spydr and illumitex neosols... though I am really considering bml, the form factor is incredible. I would urge you to check those out, as well as smash the maker of your shit ones publicly (just joking about that I just know people do it all the time if they arent satisfied) lol really though led has come a long way.

I was considering full spectrum hid like cmh, 10 000 k bulbs, honestly im back to looking at led. They make alot of sense to me, less wasted energy producing heat, less actual draw and more useable light than anything, they make sense to me...