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Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
Veteran
(gee, all this science and still they cant tell me how many drug users eat whole kernel corn?)

Scientists drug-test whole cities

By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer
Tue Aug 21, 6:51 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Researchers have figured out how to give an entire community a drug test using just a teaspoon of wastewater from a city's sewer plant.
The test wouldn't be used to finger any single person as a drug user. But it would help federal law enforcement and other agencies track the spread of dangerous drugs, like methamphetamines, across the country.

Oregon State University scientists tested 10 unnamed American cities for remnants of drugs, both legal and illegal, from wastewater streams. They were able to show that they could get a good snapshot of what people are taking.

"It's a community urinalysis," said Caleb Banta-Green, a University of Washington drug abuse researcher who was part of the Oregon State team. The scientists presented their results Tuesday at a meeting of the American Chemical Society in Boston.

Two federal agencies have taken samples from U.S. waterways to see if drug testing a whole city is doable, but they haven't gotten as far as the Oregon researchers.

One of the early results of the new study showed big differences in methamphetamine use city to city. One urban area with a gambling industry had meth levels more than five times higher than other cities. Yet methamphetamine levels were virtually nonexistent in some smaller Midwestern locales, said Jennifer Field, the lead researcher and a professor of environmental toxicology at Oregon State.

The ingredient Americans consume and excrete the most was caffeine, Field said.

Cities in the experiment ranged from 17,000 to 600,000 in population, but Field declined to identify them, saying that could harm her relationship with the sewage plant operators.

She plans to start a survey for drugs in the wastewater of at least 40 Oregon communities.

The science behind the testing is simple. Nearly every drug — legal and illicit — that people take leaves the body. That waste goes into toilets and then into wastewater treatment plants.

"Wastewater facilities are wonderful places to understand what humans consume and excrete," Field said.

In the study presented Tuesday, one teaspoon of untreated sewage water from each of the cities was tested for 15 different drugs. Field said researchers can't calculate how many people in a town are using drugs.

She said that one fairly affluent community scored low for illicit drugs except for cocaine. Cocaine and ecstasy tended to peak on weekends and drop on weekdays, she said, while methamphetamine and prescription drugs were steady throughout the week.

Field said her study suggests that a key tool currently used by drug abuse researchers — self-reported drug questionnaires — underestimates drug use.

"We have so few indicators of current use," said Jane Maxwell of the Addiction Research Institute at the University of Texas, who wasn't part of the study. "This could be a very interesting new indicator."

David Murray, chief scientist for U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy, said the idea interests his agency.

Murray said the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is testing federal wastewater samples just to see if that's a good method for monitoring drug use. But he didn't know how many tests were conducted or where.

The EPA will "flush out the details" on testing, Benjamin Grumbles joked. The EPA assistant administrator said the agency is already looking at the problem of potential harm to rivers and lakes from legal pharmaceuticals.

The idea of testing on a citywide basis for drugs makes sense, as long as it doesn't violate people's privacy, said Tom Angell of the Students for Sensible Drug Policy, a Washington-based group that wants looser drug laws.

"This seems to be less offensive than individualized testing," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070821/ap_on_sc/citywide_drug_test

[ on a serious note are they really going to tell us much the drug using community doesnt already know or isnt something you can figure out from information on the internet? ]

.. and in related news over in africa ..

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Jack Crevalle

Verite you bastard, how do manage to make me smile and laugh almost every flippin time ROFL.

I say anything that will get rid of Meth and leave Cannabis users alone is fine with me...let them wade through shit all day if they want, they deserve it...
 

HappyHemphog

Active member
I dunno about the rest of you, but this shit (pardon the pun) scares the hell outta me. How long before you see a dark tinted window black van opening sewer manhole out front of your house?

Given the way our gubment been heading, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

Nikijad4210

Member
Veteran
What a total waste of money.......Gotta love the US, though, homegrown foods keep getting more and more expensive, but the government seems to think we've got plenty of taxpayer money to flush down the crapper to examine human waste.

It's kind of oxy-moronic in a roundabout way, don't ya think?
 

Nikijad4210

Member
Veteran
HappyHemphog said:
I dunno about the rest of you, but this shit (pardon the pun) scares the hell outta me. How long before you see a dark tinted window black van opening sewer manhole out front of your house?

Given the way our gubment been heading, it wouldn't surprise me at all.


Oh no, HHH, they won't bother with the manholes and sewers, they'll just start installing chemical sensors in the toilets.

Haven't they been testing things like that in prison cans already anyway? I vaguely remember hearing about at least one prison testing something like that...If it was even in the US, I can't remember what country that supposedly was.
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
Veteran
I like to look at the positive side.. if they can detect it thats the first step in recovering it.

Anyone for reconstituted poo hash? And why does my coke smell like pee?
 

fr33th3w33d

Member
some up and coming college graduate somewhere is going to be given the prestigious task of drug testing a communities shit.
 
All it would take is a big time drug dealer mouching on through your town one day , being chased by the fuzz and then dumping 50 kilo's of uncut cocaine into the sewage system. Then your town would be listed as heavy drug users. When actually all ya wanna do is smoke some tweed , munch on some fried chicken and complete the final level on your new PS3 game.
 
D

DogBoy

I've just put a bid in for access to Pete Doherty's sewer pipe. The shit that muppet takes would be worth a fortune recycled!
 

Pops

Resident pissy old man
Veteran
It's a shame they don't test the wastewater coming from the Congress,White house and Pentagon. I'd be interested to see what kind of drugs they are on.

Verite, does that African kid stand behind a gorilla and wait for him to fart in order to blow dry his hair?
 
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Reality

Member
"David Murray, chief scientist for U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy, said the idea interests his agency."




Thats bad news for us...
 

robobond

Future Psychopharmacologist
I can only imagine the spike detected from the guy who has to flush 2 kilos of coke to avoid getting busted.
 
M

Mr. Nevermind

its every pot smokers civic duty to piss into a gallon milk jug and go to your congressmen's or senators neighborhood and pour your piss into their manhole.


I dont know about you all, but this is kind of scary to me. Its a bit like 1984, with all the controls they are trying to place on us. To me, being part of a democracy and living in "the land of the free" means i can put any substance in my body that i choose to as long as it doesnt harm those around me.

Its amazing to me that we are over in Iraq trying to give them their "freedom" while ours is being taken away from us day by day. They get to listen to our phone calls, check our emails, can throw us in jail forever with no charges now, rape us for our tax dollars and dont listen to us on how to spend the money and now they want to check the piss of neighborhoods? **** this!! and **** this government!! this is a joke. We all sit on our asses and dont do a thing about it

In case people forget this is supposed to be a government for the people by the people. Not a people for the government by the government, which is what it is becoming. We all stnad back and watch 10 billion get send to iraq every month , even though we voted in november to get new leaders to get us out. The majority of people think MJ shoudl be legal , but a few 60-70 year old white guys making bank on other drugs and paper dont want to lose any money so they keep it illegal. How can we stand for this?





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C

Chamba

testing shit for drugs...only in America! lol

how long will it be before every person in the US is drug tested weekly?

when the Cold war withered away, Raygun amped up the War on Drugs....I see the biggest future problem for our freedom will be when the troops in Iraq are finaly brought home and they will have to find a use for them domestically (or start another war somewhere)...I wonder what they will call the next War...?

I can see it now.....the paranoids will start shitting in their tin foil hats ..just to be sure! lol


but seriously though...how close is the way the Stasi acted in East Germany to the maniacs who thought up shit testing!

only in America!...Land of the Free..lol...more like Land of the Duped...and Australia is a very close step behind
 
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HappyHemphog

Active member
CORRECTION

CORRECTION

By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer
Tue Aug 21, 6:51 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Researchers have figured out how to give an entire community a drug test using just a teaspoon of wastewater from a city's sewer plant.
The test wouldn't be used to finger any single person as a drug user, yet. But it would help federal law enforcement and other agencies track the spread of dangerous drugs, like methamphetamines, across the country.

There, fixed that small typo for ya Seth.
 
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