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Droopy plants

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Is it over watering? They used to look like this, then I would water them, and they would perk back up within a couple hours. This time, I watered them when they were droopy again and they have stayed like this for about 1 day. Leads me to believe I misinterpreted their sagging leaves for water instead of nutrients. This is my first time with soil. What should I do? Foliar feed until the soil drys out? Thanks. It has been very cold lately, 35-45 F at night.

 
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MMZRetro85

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hey whats up, besides those plants drooping a little bit, they look health as can be. i would suggest getting used to the weight of the pot with the plant in it dry\wet, just so then you can determine watering, some genetics drink more than others, just keep ontop of it and it will be good.
good luck
 

MMZRetro85

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what is your temp\humidity when the light is on? could also be its a little to warm

sorry for the repost
 

MynameStitch

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can u take a picture of them without the lHPS on so we can see the color of the plant well?

Also how often are you watering them feeding them and like MMZ has stated temps and humidity?

also some of those look like they can need new pots soon, not that it is the sole cause of the problems, but to avoid more problems later a pot change is inbound soon
 
It has been very cold lately, 35-45 F at night

Are you serious? I consider 60 too cold during a grow. That temperature is a recipe for disaster. Put a heater in there and get them off the floor, put them on something so the roots warm up. Those roots won't function properly with that temperature, especially with cold water. There going to stay wetter, longer with that temperature.

are you in veg or flower? what week?
 
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I give them 1L of (20ml/L PBP Bloom and 10ml/L of Liquid Karma) at 6.0pH every other day. 3 gallon containers. Day 13 flower.

I do not have a temperature gauge or RH meter. I think you guys are right. I estimate the cab to be 60-70F lit and 45-55F dark. I will go buy a heater tonight.




 
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MynameStitch

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Ya youy can't have it that cold, the tops are showing smaller green patches which would indicate cold temps to warm temps so you need to keep it around 70 to 75 lights off
 

MTF-Sandman

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mae dae said:
I give them 1L of (20ml/L PBP Bloom and 10ml/L of Liquid Karma) at 6.0pH every other day. 3 gallon containers. Day 13 flower.

I hope that was a typo...20ml per L of PBP and 10ml per L of LK is insanely high.
 
yeah if thats not a typo thats way too much fert, not only will it fuck your plants but that would get very expensive. I like 68 for night time. THe shorter you keep the day and night time temps the less stretch and shorter internodal space.
 
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Sorry about that. I meant 20ml/gallon and 10ml/gallon. The plants receive 1L of this mixture each every other day, or when dry. I put a heater in there and bought a thermo. It's at 74F now, with 30% RH. Let's see if the heater will cure me.
 
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VanGrow

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those look like buckets???? with no drainage holes..... heres a soil grow tip.....Always make more holes in pots bigger than 4 inches....."drainage and air" are one of the biggest problems with the soil grower.... no drainage=overwatered=ph problems....combine those overwatered plants with those cold temps that fall WAY below an acceptable level....and that picture of the drooping sucked in plant is exactly what you'll get ....when you get a heater dont put it in the room directly on the plants...heat the air intake area or room ( if you can) with a nice constant temp...use 2 thermometers......watch the humidity when you add the heater to the enviornment....better make it 2 thermometers with humidity readings ...
 
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It was the cold after all. They have perked right back up and are looking great. Thanks everyone.


 

Hotgurl

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You new guys crack me up. Seriously. :pointlaug Keep temps close to 70f. Always feel free to pm with plant problems..................
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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Dear Hotgurl,

My plants are droopy. How much borax, stump remover, and battery acid would it take to fix it?
 
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Verite said:
Dear Hotgurl,

My plants are droopy. How much borax, stump remover, and battery acid would it take to fix it?


LOL! This fool thinks he can fool us verite, but sproutco we got ya again :moon:
 

HeadyPete

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Hi mae dae. Nice plants.

A good tip is to use a piece of blue or white styrofoam insulation under your pots to keep your roots warm. They like warm...if the rootzone is dialed in then the tops can take more variation in conditions.

Next time, before you water cause you think there is an issue like this one, pick up the pot. The biggest mistake people make is misinterpreting a condition such as underwatering and wreck their plants by automatically watering. Overwatering can look like underwatering to the untrained eye. Everyday, pick up your pots slightly and feel the weight. You will be able to tell as the pot gets lighter when to water. When the pot is real light and the leaves and shoots are just starting to get a little saggy, then you need to water just before that. Remember the weight when the plant needs water and you will be able to tell how all your plants are doing anytime, with practice.

You should not let the roots dry out completely, water just before.

Always start with half the recommended dosage for ferts to see how the plant reacts. A plant will do much better with not enough fert as opposed to too much fert. Always err on the light side until you can read exactly what the plants need and when.

As Van said, good drainage is key. Use 40% perlite in your soil mix. Worm casting are great also - 10-15%.

Good luck!
 

JDOG6000

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Ya, I was just going to say, the rootzone temp is off.
I've seen people get plants droopy from a hot rootzone and now a cold one.

A good rule of thumb is to let your soil dry out about half way down. Bone dry.
 
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CaptJamesTKirk

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Verite said:
Dear Hotgurl,

My plants are droopy. How much borax, stump remover, and battery acid would it take to fix it?


that's to fix a stonewall overdose. Which - is fixable too!


Cold temps really upset a plants ability ot use water and move the nutes etc - - what would be thirsty in higher temps, can go another day or two when colder. They are happier when warmer - this year I've bought a propane heater - which helps boost co2 also - but I'm keeping the temps in the balmy 75 deg range
 
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Thanks everyone. I have never had to deal with the cold before and I underestimated it. They have bounced back and are loving it. Day 18 Flower.





 

HeadyPete

Take Five...
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That is great to hear! The most important thing is that your plants are healthy and grow nice and phat! If we can help with that in any little way then we have done our duty!

Cheers! The girls are looking beautiful.
 
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