Drooping + Curling little ones LSD!

[`tonic]

Alright, first of I have no pics but hope to have some soon but please read on and maybe offer your opinion!

A little backround info, I'm running a CAB similar to the C13, I have a 175MH ran verticaly in a cool tube. I have 4 LSD babies at day 9 they are starting to take off but the lower leaves are twisting and drooping big time, I'm thinking over water but I believe the twisting might be from the light being hung verticaly??? I don't know what to do I'm using sunshine mix with nothing but straight water from a reverse osmosis, no ferts yet... The wierd thing is the twisting is away from the light and the leaves are curling as well....

I hope to have pics soon.. please add you opinion! I need help BAD!

 

[powdergreen]

is that day nine from seed or from cutting or from rooted cutting, cause if that is day nine from a rooted cutting they will need food. also make sure the light isnt to close since they are young. some pics will help.

 

[Guest]

Are there any brown spots, yellowing, fading or anything else like that going on? Are you using reflective material or any other light along with the MH?
I've seen some perfectly healthy leaves do some odd things in response to strong light coming at the plant from several directions. It's almost like when the leaves try to turn toward the light, they get confused & fold up & other crazy shit. Otherwise, like you said could be over watering. Without pics things are a bit uncertain.

Good luck! Hope things come around.

Bh

 

[Chamba]

seedlings or clones?

what was added extra, if at all, to the potting soil? ( btw I'm not familiar with Sunshine soils as it's a Norte Americano product..please describe the additives...it is 98% peat with a little perlite, a pinch of dolimite lime and a dash of organic ferts isn't it?)

the first leaves often yellow and drop off due to lack of light......twisting and drooping often points towards sick soggy root system from over watering and or too rich a mix

I'd water in vegging ferts at 50 ~ 60% strength if the soil contains no extra added ferts and watch out for over watering

happy growing!

 

[`tonic]

They are from seed... I'm going to get some pics up this is getting wierd, like the stem can't support the leaves.

 

[`tonic]

Alright here's some pics... first a few pics of my setup...









Now... Here's some pics of the sick ones

 

[Chamba]

the soil looks very dry.....they either need watering ( how often do you water them? what's the temp and RH in the gropw room?)

....or you have "damping off" (close to the soil level, are the base of the stems shrunken and thinner than the rest of the seedling's stem?..if so, plant more seeds and practice better watering techniques

 

[Pure MoFo]

looks like a watering problem.

 

[kov]

Is your large inline fan running at full speed? You know you can have too much ventilation resulting in a very low humidity and your plants may be reacting to this by curling, almost like hugging to cut back the area of evaporation.

If the humidity is low (below 40%) and an air current is strong, the water from the leaves evaporates quicker then the root system is supplying. That's my opinion.

That's nothing to do with underfeeding. Don't try to feed now, you'll only make things worse.

rgds, kov

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I think that you need to water em and realize that they will curl due to excessively low rH. It looks like it's mainly a phototropic reaction that you're concerned with. BOG's strains sometimes just have wrinkly leaves too.

 

[Guest]

If it was me, I'd get the plants 6 inches to a foot farther away from that light. I think the leaves are folding in reaction to the light. Just remove those 1 gal. paint cans. Then water em good...soil does look dry as someone else pointed out. You do have drain holes in the bottom of the cups, right? 10 days to 2 weeks you'll need to get them into larger containers.

Bh

 

[`tonic]

Well, I've watered them twice so far in there life, and the top soil is dry, but a couple inches down it's wet again... My inline is on a direct in/out with my cool tube so it has no effect on the cab's humidity, but my 100cfm blower is running at full in the back there... do you guys sudjest foilar water feeding? The humidity is super low right now 25%... i'll work on that. Thanks guys.. hopefully I'll update soon with healthy pics =)

 

[`tonic]

If it was me, I'd get the plants 6 inches to a foot farther away from that light. Then water em good...soil does look dry as someone else pointed out. You do have drain holes in the bottom of the cups, right? 10 days to 2 weeks you'll need to get them into larger containers.

Bh

Yeah I have pinholes at the bottom of every cup...

 

[Guest]

Yeah I have pinholes at the bottom of every cup...

I think the leaves are folding as a reaction to the light.
(see my edit above)

Bh

 

[`tonic]

Alright well lights are off right now, I'll do it when they come back on and take a few more pics thanks guys!

 

[Growdoc]

ok you need bigger containers with better drainage, shape is good...

also after you move them you will be able to water them more and they can handel the heat better...

you have the right idea but just need some fine tuneing...

Growdoc

 

[kov]

100cfm blower is running at full in the back there... do you guys sudjest foilar water feeding? The humidity is super low right now 25%..

Slow down your blower (how in the hell to do that? maybe even swith to a simple computer one for a while) and work hard on your humidity, wet towels etc if you don't have a humidifier. It must be at at least 40-50 %. May work, but I had a situation like this recently and regardless my efforts, the seedlings died on me, hope you have better luck.

Looks like you hi-teched your box too much, exactly like I did.

rgds, kov

 

[`tonic]

Well... I decided to flush the plants and drill bigger holes on the bottom of the cups and within 12 hours they are straightened out somewhat and started to look alot better... will post picture tommorow for sure!

Still having a problem with humidity though.. Probably going to get a humidifier tommorow for sure... Thanks everyone for your posts! I will get pics for sure tommorow!

 

[`tonic]

Alright a week later update! Well it seems like water/humidity was an issue and they were both upped! Look at the results 1 week later!

 

[TokeItUp420]

Tonic,

Looks like you figured it out. I was going to suggest that you add more perlite or something to increase drainage in your soil. I think what was happening was there isn't good enough drainage and with the soil retaining water like it was, you couldn't get any oxygen to the roots. You do this when you water, but you couldn't water because the soil was retaining so much water. Increase drainage in your soil and increase the amount and or size of your drainage holes as well.

Good luck bro....