DR300

[d3cryption]

Okay.. here wer go.. I'm planning a grow. This is what I got so far..

DarkRoom: DR300 9'10 x 9'10 x 6'7 ~ $891
4x 1000 HPS aircooled (magumm or super sun)~1280 >>>>>>>which would be beter?<<<<<<<<<
Fans:2x (8'' vortex or 8''high output can fan) ~$650>>>>.>>>which would be better<<<<<<<<<<<<
Optimum 4000 w/ catri:~$218
Temp/Humidity gauges:~$35
DIY Carbon Scrubber:>>>>>>>>>>>>IF NEEDED<<<<<<<<<<
Ducting:~$50
Magnigying 30x loop:~$45
3 gal grow bags:~$25
Super Soil Mix:~$ 125
Kf seeds:~$100
jackberry seeds:~$ 100
Magus DD fems seeds:~77
Circulating fan:free


Grand total $3496

That's all i got so far.. Seems like I'm pretty set, but it feels like I'm missing something. What do you guys think? Also i got a few questions.. I was looking at a high amp light box time... they had for that was 30 amps and one that was 50 amps.... to my under standing these "boxes" plug into a regular outlet and turn it into 30/50 amps?

 

[onahah]

little help, alot of words!

little help, alot of words!

The magnum reflectors look very well, and the bulb mount is not blocking the hole the actually vents the air. I have a cheao hood that came with my 600 watt lumatek and the bulb support is infront of the 6" vent hole and blocks my air gay shizzle.

I also have the supersun. Im not sure which one your lookin at? maybe xl one? But i got one and its only 4" venting holes Sad about that too haha! everything i have is 6" and up fan wise.

as for fans, have you looked into the max fan? I wish i would have before i started buying all types of crazy equipment when i first started the hobby.
maybe a 10" instead of two 8"s. unless one if for scrub/exhaust and one for intake. then you would be perfect with the 2 8" HO canfans i think, or the vortex (has like 9 cfm more than the canfan, and that part all comes down to YOU)

Scrubber, i have recently came accross the vaportek again and was interested in using it for my new tent i just set up, a homebox l. When i went to make the purchase i had asked which would be the best if i only used one and the hydro store guy said the scrubber was a sure thing from his expericene in using it (he brews and shizzle) instead of trying to make the air around smell better. (this guy showed me a max fan 10" and it blew shit down hahahaha) i will more than likely be buying one as soon as my next flower hits in a month because of all the great feedback it got on the other thread by some, and just to feel safe, and smell good

Grow bags- ive tried the 1 gal and 3 gal ones. I havent like them at all because of how clumbsy i can get and just one nudge can knock a whole god damn mother fuckin beautiful plant to the ground as its stems and shit hit other plants and break other shit and its own shit! Haha, tmi ! But i have to say i always grow qp trees in my 3 gal plastic pots like you see on the site all the time. i also like waterfarms! If you can find an italian ice place that uses buckets you will be GOLDEN! just ask them for the used up buckets and make a DWC bucket or waterfarm.

Soil... From a few years of dealing with soil and hydro.. Soil is soil unless your are putting EVERYTHING into the pot to begin with as BLAZEONEUP said he had done. Your really going to be adding anything and everything your brain reads on the forums to the soil.. Teas, New additives, nutes so a soil that has all kinda nutes and is more expensive and looks like it has a pretty bag on it really doesnt always make it better.

And i guess another few things to throw in,

PPM meter (you can get one with ppm/ph if your going to ph test)
Dolomite lime
Perlite (if your soil isnt easily breakable or lacks perlite)
I use wormcastings, blood/bone meal.
Nutes- You might have your mind set but some ive used with great results is GH lines like the lucas formula and am using flora series (GH) right now with fantastic results but get shit dirty! and i have and use the fox farm line up, tiger bloom, grow big, and the third........ gotta stop smoking weed! haha NOT. BIG BLOOM. it hit me like a big ass hit!

Seeds sound nice! i wish i could order more! i threw down ~350 and they got busted by stupid customs! cant belive that shit! and i used my name! HAHAHA. relative with exact same name in state was NOT happy coming home from accross borders the SAME WEEK! not saying that to scare you, but its a funny sucky story!

And if your going to get crazy like alot of people do after starting to grow now i would look into what you think you might do next. I went from only 3 plants to too many, to too many rooms! LMAO! so if your going to get into perp growing, think about what you can get for a little veg room. Ive seen this type of shit happen to many and then they start putting together "mean time stuff" and end up spending TONS of money! like me! haha

I think that if you look at MASHUP s setup in the indoor hydro grow it will basically have everything you need. I didnt see a scrubber though. He grows in tents and you can look around and see all the misc. stuff you might want/need.

THE 30/50 AMP thing is not as you imagine i would have to say. Shit if those turned everything outlet in my crib into 30 amps at least i would have one in every god damn room!

 

[Patterson]

Those Dark Rooms are all from china. You could buy directly from china for abou 150 buks!
You could register and talk to manager online
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=grow+tent&Country=&IndexArea=product_en&ssk=y
But bare in maind they have different time belt
You also could find digital ballsts, like lumateks etc are all from china he he he

 

[gdawg]

great link patterson!

 

[d3cryption]

Onahah: Thanks alot... The soil mix im using is subcool mix, just add water the whole time.

yes the super sun aircooled hood is the xl model..

also I see what you mea about seeds 340? wewwww that's alot.... Im just getting everything I could possibly want so ill never have to buy seeds again.. enless to that looking really good come out and i wanna test....I even added another strain to the list which bring my total for seeds to $377.... IMO if they got snatch at customs I would throw a fuck!ng FIT!

seems like i'm almost there....

Patterson: is that site legit?

 

[stink.whistler]

Those Dark Rooms are all from china. You could buy directly from china for abou 150 buks!

Has anyone done this? My impression is you need to buy more than one from the alibaba merchants. I suspect there would be customs issues as well?

Not criticizing, just curious. I've been looking at the alibaba stuff for a while, but never got off my ass to check into it.

 

[Patterson]

If you buying one tent by regular post you will not have any customs issues.
Just tell them you are buying a specimen.
Recently I got ballsts from china
60-70 usd 600w hps mh
100-140 usd 1000hps mh
looks familiar?

And these 600 are ballast I have recived recently









http://longood.en.alibaba.com/
Most of the chinese ballast look the same. I would buy electronic ballasts localy from european or american manufacturers, even they cost more expensive but they will surve better, chinese ballast could look better sometimes but not as good.

 

[stink.whistler]

If you buying one tent by regular post you will not have any customs issues.
Just tell them you are buying a specimen.

So you tell the vendor your just want to buy a specimen, to test the quality, etc? Do you have to have a company name?

Also, you suggest not to buy the electronic ballast - are you dissatisfied with the quality of the ballast you purchased?

 

[Patterson]

So you tell the vendor your just want to buy a specimen, to test the quality, etc? Do you have to have a company name?

Also, you suggest not to buy the electronic ballast - are you dissatisfied with the quality of the ballast you purchased?

Yeah just make out of yor head if the y ask you about company.
If you have electronic ballasts from local manufacturer at the same price I would go for local, if you want to save some bucks then chinese is your choice.
I had purchsed ballast from china and from my country, the price is same, chinese produces more noise. That is all so far that I'm not satisfied with. It works well.