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'DP' 'The Ultimate' - 'NFT SCROG'
- Thread starter Scrogerman
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Hey Toke,
It is exactly 7 weeks completed today, sometimes i am a little vauge on the time subject, but i do know that they went into 12/12 on the 6th Dec 2009, so thats exactly 7 weeks to the day bro - close i got it to 49 days, you are probably going off my approx quotes in earlier posts but we are near enough!. Pics updated very soon, i'll give you a heads up bro! I think they will go to 65-70 days anyway! 3 weeks left!imo!
Peace & Respect............Scroger!!!
'Wont be long now!!!!!!!!!!they gettin fat and juicy!!!!!!!!!
It is exactly 7 weeks completed today, sometimes i am a little vauge on the time subject, but i do know that they went into 12/12 on the 6th Dec 2009, so thats exactly 7 weeks to the day bro - close i got it to 49 days, you are probably going off my approx quotes in earlier posts but we are near enough!. Pics updated very soon, i'll give you a heads up bro! I think they will go to 65-70 days anyway! 3 weeks left!imo!
Peace & Respect............Scroger!!!
'Wont be long now!!!!!!!!!!they gettin fat and juicy!!!!!!!!!
Up-date!
Up-date!
Quick-Update, I'm suffering a little heat stress, its pissin me off, cause it aint that hot at all, I was starting to think wind burn, but i dunno, it aint imo?. Temps are varing between 70f(Light-out) - 82f max(Light-on), Average lights on temp is 78-80f, Doesent seem so hot to me & i can comfortably hold my hand where the nearest tops are, doesent get hot at all, i got an oscillating fan blowing across the tops not hard, Pretty softly, I would say 2/3rd's of the 18" Circulation fans Face/blades are sat above the tallest buds, the lower 1/3rd, 2-3 feet away, blows through the canopy(oscillating). & A 6" Clip-on aimed at my 400w Growlux from slightly under to drive heat away-(i need to increase the angle of this!) Apart from the heat stress, which i cant seem to get sorted for some reason, i'm just gonna increase ventilation/circulation a little, the plants aint doing too bad at all & in general look green & healthy, they sure dont lack any Nitrogen or havent in growth cycle, judging by the dark lush colour, maybe a little too rich. tip Burn is minimal and in some patches ratches rather than throughout, its minimal. There is a slight deficiency showing in the form of tiny spots & slight intervainal chlorosis, this is absolutely minimal & has more do with very low RH(21%-40%), displacement of something in the solution or PH lock of some sort, i cant quite place my finger on it atm, i suspect something Calcium or Magnesium related possibly linked to K. Its minimal. I flush my rockwool every 2 weeks and its stayed in good condition, i'm cutting it short a few days this time, make sure things cant progress any. I am playing with a few different reasons why this may be happening & i think the RH has played a part. If i get to the bottom of it i'll throw up a post. I'll get some pics up tommoro!! The Buds are gettin Fatttt!!!!!!!! So i'm still happy but i don't get why the plants are stressing in 78f-82f-Margins are curling inwards & some Rashing affect to the leaves closest the light). Lights are a good distance too the 400w is 18"-22" & the 600w is 20"-22", CFL's are 6"-8" for good spread. I am Drawing 70f-78F air in through the inlet(Air from Indoor).I think my little adjustments to Fans will make all the difference PH has been very stable and drifted very little, after 2-3 days its fully buffered, then remains stable after topping up.
So a couple of little hiccupps at the end, but i aint too worried, im really pleased how well this has gone, considering i have only seen them once or twice a week for most of the grow, yeah i'm buzzin happy! Anyway Pics up tommoro, be interesting to see what people have to say on the heat stress & other minor issues, tikll then' Peace & Respect ....Scroger'
Up-date!
Quick-Update, I'm suffering a little heat stress, its pissin me off, cause it aint that hot at all, I was starting to think wind burn, but i dunno, it aint imo?. Temps are varing between 70f(Light-out) - 82f max(Light-on), Average lights on temp is 78-80f, Doesent seem so hot to me & i can comfortably hold my hand where the nearest tops are, doesent get hot at all, i got an oscillating fan blowing across the tops not hard, Pretty softly, I would say 2/3rd's of the 18" Circulation fans Face/blades are sat above the tallest buds, the lower 1/3rd, 2-3 feet away, blows through the canopy(oscillating). & A 6" Clip-on aimed at my 400w Growlux from slightly under to drive heat away-(i need to increase the angle of this!) Apart from the heat stress, which i cant seem to get sorted for some reason, i'm just gonna increase ventilation/circulation a little, the plants aint doing too bad at all & in general look green & healthy, they sure dont lack any Nitrogen or havent in growth cycle, judging by the dark lush colour, maybe a little too rich. tip Burn is minimal and in some patches ratches rather than throughout, its minimal. There is a slight deficiency showing in the form of tiny spots & slight intervainal chlorosis, this is absolutely minimal & has more do with very low RH(21%-40%), displacement of something in the solution or PH lock of some sort, i cant quite place my finger on it atm, i suspect something Calcium or Magnesium related possibly linked to K. Its minimal. I flush my rockwool every 2 weeks and its stayed in good condition, i'm cutting it short a few days this time, make sure things cant progress any. I am playing with a few different reasons why this may be happening & i think the RH has played a part. If i get to the bottom of it i'll throw up a post. I'll get some pics up tommoro!! The Buds are gettin Fatttt!!!!!!!! So i'm still happy but i don't get why the plants are stressing in 78f-82f-Margins are curling inwards & some Rashing affect to the leaves closest the light). Lights are a good distance too the 400w is 18"-22" & the 600w is 20"-22", CFL's are 6"-8" for good spread. I am Drawing 70f-78F air in through the inlet(Air from Indoor).I think my little adjustments to Fans will make all the difference PH has been very stable and drifted very little, after 2-3 days its fully buffered, then remains stable after topping up.
So a couple of little hiccupps at the end, but i aint too worried, im really pleased how well this has gone, considering i have only seen them once or twice a week for most of the grow, yeah i'm buzzin happy! Anyway Pics up tommoro, be interesting to see what people have to say on the heat stress & other minor issues, tikll then' Peace & Respect ....Scroger'
Hey Scroger, are you sure taking them down early is the right answer? I cant see that you`ll do any harm this late, def`s or not
. You can always change yer mind again if things turn for the worse, but I would`nt assume that that is whats going to happen, I`d assume they`re going to do well and surely the bud will benefit from staying put for a while?? I reckon you and yer man have done so much work, it`d be a shame not to take em to the max.
When you say lights off/on temps, where are you taking the readings from? What is the highest temp you can find by moving yer thermometer about, I mean right near the tallest of the tops, and right under the light, compared to where you`re taking your temps from now? Sorry if this seems obvious mate, but I`ve found the temps vary enormously through the top of the canopy. I have one hotter area and keeping an eye open for any stress. I`d expect stretching in the nearest tops and shoving foxtails out, more than the leaf damage you`re describing.
It could just be signs of the plants age, as they`re getting to be old ladies now. Your mate coulda sneezed on em, well maybe not, but could it be from moisture droplets from any where? I assume you`re mate`s not doing any foliage spraying at this late a stage.
It`ll be good to see the pics tmoz. I have some wind burn underneath my canopy, 16" fan. I`ve just moved one of the 16`s above to stop some of the transpiration I`ve been getting in between the leaves. I`ll expect a bit of wind damage, but will keep it to a minimum by puttin 2 16`s above and having them turned down a bit. Better a bit of leaf damage than mold becoming an issue me thinks!
Wind damage on my current grow bordered in red
Hope ya get on top of it whatever it is, and I`m hoping you can make em go the full term. . . . ya know it`ll be worth it in quality and yield
Toke
. You can always change yer mind again if things turn for the worse, but I would`nt assume that that is whats going to happen, I`d assume they`re going to do well and surely the bud will benefit from staying put for a while?? I reckon you and yer man have done so much work, it`d be a shame not to take em to the max.When you say lights off/on temps, where are you taking the readings from? What is the highest temp you can find by moving yer thermometer about, I mean right near the tallest of the tops, and right under the light, compared to where you`re taking your temps from now? Sorry if this seems obvious mate, but I`ve found the temps vary enormously through the top of the canopy. I have one hotter area and keeping an eye open for any stress. I`d expect stretching in the nearest tops and shoving foxtails out, more than the leaf damage you`re describing.
It could just be signs of the plants age, as they`re getting to be old ladies now. Your mate coulda sneezed on em, well maybe not, but could it be from moisture droplets from any where? I assume you`re mate`s not doing any foliage spraying at this late a stage.
It`ll be good to see the pics tmoz. I have some wind burn underneath my canopy, 16" fan. I`ve just moved one of the 16`s above to stop some of the transpiration I`ve been getting in between the leaves. I`ll expect a bit of wind damage, but will keep it to a minimum by puttin 2 16`s above and having them turned down a bit. Better a bit of leaf damage than mold becoming an issue me thinks!
Wind damage on my current grow bordered in red
Hope ya get on top of it whatever it is, and I`m hoping you can make em go the full term. . . . ya know it`ll be worth it in quality and yield
Toke
Hey Toke,
No buddy, i aint cutting them down, their probably gonna go 10 weeks. I was talking about cutting the rockwool-cleaning/leaching i do every 2 weeks down, cutting that time down to 10 days rather than 14, there's a little salt build-up that has progressed faster this fortnight for some reason, imo its a good idea to keep the medium clean throughout the growth cycles.
I'm gonna hit them with GH Ripen, The sativa leaning pheno's are gonna go to 10 while the others will probably go 9, the Ripen seems to help make them all finish together. Going from seed its a good product to use if you have a pheno finishing issue, works well but requires a really good flush after use.
82F is as hot as it gets in that room dude, 'yeah ive taken readings from floor to ceiling but at canopy level the avarage is 78f-80f, which aint that hot is it imo, see if this fan repositioning helps, which i suspect it will. i'm putting the leaf curl down to wind burn/wind damage or Heat etc & the spotting is Ca related, its barely visible & minimal, so it dont concern me really.
These babies will be going Full-Term 9-10weeks the GH ripen will make sure!! Your Grow looks to be coming along well buddy, good luck with it dude, i'll stick my head in for a look!
Peace..........Scroger'
No buddy, i aint cutting them down, their probably gonna go 10 weeks. I was talking about cutting the rockwool-cleaning/leaching i do every 2 weeks down, cutting that time down to 10 days rather than 14, there's a little salt build-up that has progressed faster this fortnight for some reason, imo its a good idea to keep the medium clean throughout the growth cycles.
I'm gonna hit them with GH Ripen, The sativa leaning pheno's are gonna go to 10 while the others will probably go 9, the Ripen seems to help make them all finish together. Going from seed its a good product to use if you have a pheno finishing issue, works well but requires a really good flush after use.
82F is as hot as it gets in that room dude, 'yeah ive taken readings from floor to ceiling but at canopy level the avarage is 78f-80f, which aint that hot is it imo, see if this fan repositioning helps, which i suspect it will. i'm putting the leaf curl down to wind burn/wind damage or Heat etc & the spotting is Ca related, its barely visible & minimal, so it dont concern me really.
These babies will be going Full-Term 9-10weeks the GH ripen will make sure!! Your Grow looks to be coming along well buddy, good luck with it dude, i'll stick my head in for a look!
Peace..........Scroger'
Yeah just re-read yer post mate, and realise I misread. . . . the way I read it didn`t sound like you, sorry. . . . I was pretty wrecked. I get so used to people saying "Oh its having to come down early this time", and as you know, that`s never wise unless something is really fucked up, mold, or landlord probs etc. I remember one time a good while ago having to break my room down and turn it into a bedroom and then back into a grow room again in one day. Fortunately the plants were just ending veg and I managed to get all my plants out to a mates and then back into my grow space in a day!
This Cheese I`m growing has mold issues when the colas get big, and can stop some of the big tops going the whole 9 weeks, and week 9 one has to be vigilant. They`re doing great so far though mate, start of week 5, and it looks like there`ll be a shit load of big colas to be watching till the end. I`m hoping my upgraded ventilation is gonna prevent the mold from being much of a problem. I was getting loads of transpiration, but the 16" fan seems to have quelled that for now.
Toke ;-)
This Cheese I`m growing has mold issues when the colas get big, and can stop some of the big tops going the whole 9 weeks, and week 9 one has to be vigilant. They`re doing great so far though mate, start of week 5, and it looks like there`ll be a shit load of big colas to be watching till the end. I`m hoping my upgraded ventilation is gonna prevent the mold from being much of a problem. I was getting loads of transpiration, but the 16" fan seems to have quelled that for now.
Toke ;-)
Yeah Toke,
Your Scrog is looking mustard buddy! I would be investing in 1-2 dehumidifiers(10ltr or 20ltr) if i were you, if you get Mold issues, i had a digital one with a digistat, just set it to 35% to 50% RH, and Bye-Bye Bud rot, this time of year i aint worried as its dry as hell, i'm getting 21%-40% RH through a 24 hour cycle, so thats great in the respects of mold & pests etc. but Spring through to late Autumn i coulde'nt do without a dehuey at all, wouldnt even attempt a scrog without one them times of year, it's too risky & in 'ScrOG' conditions with all that humidity in the canopy your just asking for trouble without one, saying all that i would still use one now placed under my screen if i had a plant subsceptible to molds/rot etc!
Your Canopy looks cool, well spaced tops and not too thick, so with maybe a little further prune if it starts to get outta hand & everythings hunky-dory!!! Thats pretty much what ive done this time, a late top prune(very lightly) week 5, as it was starting to get way too thick & that forced my hand. Anyway buddy i'll throw a few shots up later on. G'Luck...!!!
Peace........Scroger'
Your Scrog is looking mustard buddy! I would be investing in 1-2 dehumidifiers(10ltr or 20ltr) if i were you, if you get Mold issues, i had a digital one with a digistat, just set it to 35% to 50% RH, and Bye-Bye Bud rot, this time of year i aint worried as its dry as hell, i'm getting 21%-40% RH through a 24 hour cycle, so thats great in the respects of mold & pests etc. but Spring through to late Autumn i coulde'nt do without a dehuey at all, wouldnt even attempt a scrog without one them times of year, it's too risky & in 'ScrOG' conditions with all that humidity in the canopy your just asking for trouble without one, saying all that i would still use one now placed under my screen if i had a plant subsceptible to molds/rot etc!
Your Canopy looks cool, well spaced tops and not too thick, so with maybe a little further prune if it starts to get outta hand & everythings hunky-dory!!! Thats pretty much what ive done this time, a late top prune(very lightly) week 5, as it was starting to get way too thick & that forced my hand. Anyway buddy i'll throw a few shots up later on. G'Luck...!!!
Peace........Scroger'
B
British_Bulldog
Hi Scrogerman,
Good work man
About the air pumps though, lol, when I first read your post I was surprised you were using a Rena 300 litre/hour pump in a 45 litre tank!
...Then you said you added another one!! lol
600 litres of air per hour in a 45 ltr tank? Don't you think that's overkill mate?! lol
Surely there's a limit to how much oxygen the roots can take in?
I mean I was thinking 2 ltr/per hour per litre of tank, and that's always worked well for me.
Have you tried lower rated air pumps and noticed a lot better growth with the bigger ones?
Also, what type of airstones are you using?
Peace
Good work man
About the air pumps though, lol, when I first read your post I was surprised you were using a Rena 300 litre/hour pump in a 45 litre tank!
...Then you said you added another one!! lol
600 litres of air per hour in a 45 ltr tank? Don't you think that's overkill mate?! lol
Surely there's a limit to how much oxygen the roots can take in?
I mean I was thinking 2 ltr/per hour per litre of tank, and that's always worked well for me.
Have you tried lower rated air pumps and noticed a lot better growth with the bigger ones?
Also, what type of airstones are you using?
Peace
Hey BritishB,
No Buddy, imo its hard to have or rather get too much O2 flowing through your system.LOL, my last run was DWC & that was a 70 litre tank(rubbermaid style), that was running a Kam-Air 70, The Output of that little beauty is 40 litres(O2) per minute, so 600 litres per hour in a 45ltr 'Res is small time dude, DWC Raging Rapids Styley, you cant beat it imo! Total Explosive Growth & just pips NFT imo too. Yes dude i notice a massive difference in growth rates with more air power, Airstones i use varie from the expensive 6" ceramic Rena's at about £8.00 each, rubber bubble tubing(dont like it), the standard cheapo 12" aquarium wands at £2.80 each or so & the Cheapo Bomb Type at about £1.20 each, i have my eye on some very interesting Micro Ceramics for salt water Aqurium for about £25.00 each, there High pressure so only HO/compressor pumps will do for those. The Circular Koi ceramics are pretty cool & cost around £6.00 or so. IMO you can barely ever have too much O2 flowing through your system, Try it for yourself and see what results you get!, the growth rate is crazy in my DWC system. Anyway i'm gonna go upload a few pics now. G'Luck Buddy!!!
Squarepush3r- Thanks for looking in dude, yip the reason i got them, couldent get what i really wanted & those jumped out at me begging to be grown out so hey-presto!
Cheers Guy's...Peace & Respect......................Scroger'
No Buddy, imo its hard to have or rather get too much O2 flowing through your system.LOL, my last run was DWC & that was a 70 litre tank(rubbermaid style), that was running a Kam-Air 70, The Output of that little beauty is 40 litres(O2) per minute, so 600 litres per hour in a 45ltr 'Res is small time dude, DWC Raging Rapids Styley, you cant beat it imo! Total Explosive Growth & just pips NFT imo too. Yes dude i notice a massive difference in growth rates with more air power, Airstones i use varie from the expensive 6" ceramic Rena's at about £8.00 each, rubber bubble tubing(dont like it), the standard cheapo 12" aquarium wands at £2.80 each or so & the Cheapo Bomb Type at about £1.20 each, i have my eye on some very interesting Micro Ceramics for salt water Aqurium for about £25.00 each, there High pressure so only HO/compressor pumps will do for those. The Circular Koi ceramics are pretty cool & cost around £6.00 or so. IMO you can barely ever have too much O2 flowing through your system, Try it for yourself and see what results you get!, the growth rate is crazy in my DWC system. Anyway i'm gonna go upload a few pics now. G'Luck Buddy!!!
Squarepush3r- Thanks for looking in dude, yip the reason i got them, couldent get what i really wanted & those jumped out at me begging to be grown out so hey-presto!
Cheers Guy's...Peace & Respect......................Scroger'
Pic-Update!
Pic-Update!
Hey Peeps! 'Ere we Go, a few shots for us to examine, Crumbs they are starting to get Fat with a capital FAT!!!!
I'll throw a few more up tommoro. Peace..........Scroger!!!!!!!!!!
Pic-Update!
Hey Peeps! 'Ere we Go, a few shots for us to examine, Crumbs they are starting to get Fat with a capital FAT!!!!
I'll throw a few more up tommoro. Peace..........Scroger!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Bulldog, I dont think its the amount of oxygen the plants can absorb so much as the amount the water can absorb. Its difficult to get water to absorb oxygen without advanced techniques as electrolisis. You cant apply too much too much air/oxygen to your nutes, especially in hydro.
Hey Scroger, Yeah my RH is low too at the mo of course and not a concern. My transpiration is down to leaves touching, but as the colas establish themselves that`s happening less and the 16" above will be joined by another before long.
Yeah mate I have a good dehumidifier, but always find them pretty ineffective in the grow room due to the massive volume of air coming in, if its humid outside and you`re drawing it through the room its just impossible to effectively bring the RH down with mine, and its a good one too. I do stick it in there to help when its bad though. Its a bit like trying to raise humidity with wet towels etc., if its low RH outside and you`re pumping it through your room, what little extra humidity given off by the damp towels is soon out the exhaust and gone. The extra humidity in the summer months might postpone my plans for adding further verticals to my scrog, I dont want greed to fuck things up, but it`ll defo be a plan for next winter if the room cant handle it before. . . I might just be able to manage a spring one though, we`ll see.
Thanks for the positive comments on my grow, I`m enjoying my gardening a lot at the mo and its coming along really well, colas galore and forming well, I`m hoping to keep it going smoothly for the girls and if I can I reckon I`ll be looking at an excellent harvest. Not much to do now, but watch, tuck leaves, raise lights, and feed. The hard work is done till the chop now. So much better than my old methods where I`d spend the rest of the grow tying heads up with meters upon meters of dental floss.
I might have a bit more pruning to do yet me thinks, I imagine the bigger colas will stretch more as they build their buds and swamp some of the smaller ones. I`m not sure how much more I`ll prune them now though unless, like you, my hand is forced by unrulyness. Looking fwd to yer pic show! Edit: Heh heh you beat me to it.
Toke
Hey Scroger, Yeah my RH is low too at the mo of course and not a concern. My transpiration is down to leaves touching, but as the colas establish themselves that`s happening less and the 16" above will be joined by another before long.
Yeah mate I have a good dehumidifier, but always find them pretty ineffective in the grow room due to the massive volume of air coming in, if its humid outside and you`re drawing it through the room its just impossible to effectively bring the RH down with mine, and its a good one too. I do stick it in there to help when its bad though. Its a bit like trying to raise humidity with wet towels etc., if its low RH outside and you`re pumping it through your room, what little extra humidity given off by the damp towels is soon out the exhaust and gone. The extra humidity in the summer months might postpone my plans for adding further verticals to my scrog, I dont want greed to fuck things up, but it`ll defo be a plan for next winter if the room cant handle it before. . . I might just be able to manage a spring one though, we`ll see.
Thanks for the positive comments on my grow, I`m enjoying my gardening a lot at the mo and its coming along really well, colas galore and forming well, I`m hoping to keep it going smoothly for the girls and if I can I reckon I`ll be looking at an excellent harvest. Not much to do now, but watch, tuck leaves, raise lights, and feed. The hard work is done till the chop now. So much better than my old methods where I`d spend the rest of the grow tying heads up with meters upon meters of dental floss.
I might have a bit more pruning to do yet me thinks, I imagine the bigger colas will stretch more as they build their buds and swamp some of the smaller ones. I`m not sure how much more I`ll prune them now though unless, like you, my hand is forced by unrulyness. Looking fwd to yer pic show! Edit: Heh heh you beat me to it.
Toke
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http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=11451&pictureid=282614 A Few More For you Fella!! Well said on the O2 issue, the more the merrier is a good attitude buddy! If my Buds start to Fall u nder their own weight i still always end up tying loads up, various methods, whatever is effective i suppose, i lose interest in asthetics at that point.
'Till Next time All-'Be Lucky'.......Scroger'...!!!!!
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http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=11451&pictureid=282614 A Few More For you Fella!! Well said on the O2 issue, the more the merrier is a good attitude buddy! If my Buds start to Fall u nder their own weight i still always end up tying loads up, various methods, whatever is effective i suppose, i lose interest in asthetics at that point.
'Till Next time All-'Be Lucky'.......Scroger'...!!!!!
They`re looking swell mate. . . well swollen anyway! The odd one that I can see that have stretched out a bit, is that down to heat stress do ya reckon, I see the bit of leaf curl you mentioned, not sure if I`m seeing the intervienal discolouring or whether its the lighting tho?
Looks like you`ll be having a good harvest in 2-3 weeks time mate.
Have you got the next lot thought about, are you going with the same strain? I`ve got Armaghedden (they`re coming round nicely now), and have the chance of a top notch re-run of the old Big Bud (a very nice one), along with some Grapefruit and Strawberry. Do you know anything about the latter two Scroger?
Cheers, Toke
Looks like you`ll be having a good harvest in 2-3 weeks time mate.
Have you got the next lot thought about, are you going with the same strain? I`ve got Armaghedden (they`re coming round nicely now), and have the chance of a top notch re-run of the old Big Bud (a very nice one), along with some Grapefruit and Strawberry. Do you know anything about the latter two Scroger?
Cheers, Toke
MeanBean
Member
Wow, Great Update, there Looking real good!!! I just started a mother a few weeks ago I am pumped! Are those clones???
I was looking at my current Oasis clones compared to the mother plant of my "the ultimate"...
One thing I can notice for sure is it has much smaller nodes!, just small plant stems and leafs in general, but a ton of them! I think that may be one of the secrets to this mega bud producing strain!!
I have been lurcking this thread for a while but had to bust out now! Looking good bro! keep the updates coming! I am trying to grow this strain under led next!
I was looking at my current Oasis clones compared to the mother plant of my "the ultimate"...
One thing I can notice for sure is it has much smaller nodes!, just small plant stems and leafs in general, but a ton of them! I think that may be one of the secrets to this mega bud producing strain!!
I have been lurcking this thread for a while but had to bust out now! Looking good bro! keep the updates coming! I am trying to grow this strain under led next!
Yeah I hope I`ll have to tie some up towards the end, usually I`d be starting around now especially my last 3 grows where I had the problems, they got all leggy and spindley.
I have about 80 yoyo`s, I reckon that should deal with this grow, and if not I`ll be doing better than expected eh?
I have about 80 yoyo`s, I reckon that should deal with this grow, and if not I`ll be doing better than expected eh?
Hey Toke,
Yeah the tops that have stretched out more than others were allready off on their own, i couldent pull them down in the end, it was too late by the time i got to them really, i dont think the warmer temps have helped though. Having a break for a month or so which is a shame, id like to slap some more straight in dude! I'm gonna grow something real fruity & Smelly next time. Armageddon, yeah she's a nice puff fella, reminded me of a real strong Orange type strain, was Pukka's i tryed, potent stuff! i had Strawberry Cough, loved it dude, never tried the SDiesel to my knowledge. i tried several Grapefruit types strains, liked them all. The Chiesel i grew out last was a Grapefruit tasting strain to some extent, that was nice, Jacky White was a real Grapefruit flavoured strain that was lovely bud!. I dont know a hell of alot about what you mentioned, could you be a little more specific on strains dude!
G'Luck with the 80 yo-yo's bro lol whooo. thats a lot! Yeah the spacing on these has improved since i moved a repositioned them, they are starting to fall so i'll be tying real soon, usually have to buddy! The Large cola's(long) are aroung 16-18" the others are around 12-14",small ones 6-8" so it varies quite a bit dude.! If i'd of been there it may have been a little more level(excuses)lol! till next time buddy, Peace n G'Luck!!!!!!!!
MeanBean My friend nice to have you on board buddy, yeah she's a little crazy & wild, its almost showing like a Landrace she's so thick and wild almost scruffy, you'll see what i mean when she gets a little bigger. She's compact but as she gets bigger a lot of heavy popcorn scruff keeps showing its face, the more i pulled it out the more that it came, loads of it, just scruff, energy leaching undergrowth. Got rid of most of it, but i had to leave a lot that i would of preferred to remove! thanks for the Heads-Up Bro' Peace & G'Luck...Scroger'
Yeah the tops that have stretched out more than others were allready off on their own, i couldent pull them down in the end, it was too late by the time i got to them really, i dont think the warmer temps have helped though. Having a break for a month or so which is a shame, id like to slap some more straight in dude! I'm gonna grow something real fruity & Smelly next time. Armageddon, yeah she's a nice puff fella, reminded me of a real strong Orange type strain, was Pukka's i tryed, potent stuff! i had Strawberry Cough, loved it dude, never tried the SDiesel to my knowledge. i tried several Grapefruit types strains, liked them all. The Chiesel i grew out last was a Grapefruit tasting strain to some extent, that was nice, Jacky White was a real Grapefruit flavoured strain that was lovely bud!. I dont know a hell of alot about what you mentioned, could you be a little more specific on strains dude!
G'Luck with the 80 yo-yo's bro lol whooo. thats a lot! Yeah the spacing on these has improved since i moved a repositioned them, they are starting to fall so i'll be tying real soon, usually have to buddy! The Large cola's(long) are aroung 16-18" the others are around 12-14",small ones 6-8" so it varies quite a bit dude.! If i'd of been there it may have been a little more level(excuses)lol! till next time buddy, Peace n G'Luck!!!!!!!!
MeanBean My friend nice to have you on board buddy, yeah she's a little crazy & wild, its almost showing like a Landrace she's so thick and wild almost scruffy, you'll see what i mean when she gets a little bigger. She's compact but as she gets bigger a lot of heavy popcorn scruff keeps showing its face, the more i pulled it out the more that it came, loads of it, just scruff, energy leaching undergrowth. Got rid of most of it, but i had to leave a lot that i would of preferred to remove! thanks for the Heads-Up Bro' Peace & G'Luck...Scroger'
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Following this thread closely. As far as I know, you are the first person to do an actual 'grow test' with the new Dutch Passion strain. Strongly considering getting some of these myself, love to see if it really is the ultimate yielder and quality. Would definitely switch my crop if it was.
Keep up the good work!
It looks better than I even thought then, 16-18 inches, yeay!
I notice on many of the tops that they`re fatter at the tops, is that the strain or down to the scrog technique, ie., tucking leaves out of the light and tops being packed in like sardines, compared to a plant grown untrained?
I have loads of leaves tucked away and hanging down under the screen now, and have been pondering this.
Not sure of the specifics re the strains, hope to find out more soon tho.
Do you use anything to give added sugars and vitamins during flower. I`ve been looking at Bonecarver`s thread on Panela. concentrated crystalised pure cane juice, and subsequently at the facts about Molases. Cant find Panela locally though!
Its cool to see all is going well for you with the DP strain you`re trying, do you always go from seed? I figure you`d probably do some pheno selection, with thoughts toward the ultimate mother plant, but I haven`t seen it mentioned, or have I missed a bit somewhere?
Toke
I notice on many of the tops that they`re fatter at the tops, is that the strain or down to the scrog technique, ie., tucking leaves out of the light and tops being packed in like sardines, compared to a plant grown untrained?
I have loads of leaves tucked away and hanging down under the screen now, and have been pondering this.
Not sure of the specifics re the strains, hope to find out more soon tho.
Do you use anything to give added sugars and vitamins during flower. I`ve been looking at Bonecarver`s thread on Panela. concentrated crystalised pure cane juice, and subsequently at the facts about Molases. Cant find Panela locally though!
Its cool to see all is going well for you with the DP strain you`re trying, do you always go from seed? I figure you`d probably do some pheno selection, with thoughts toward the ultimate mother plant, but I haven`t seen it mentioned, or have I missed a bit somewhere?
Toke
