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Don’t Over-Analyze Prop. 19

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
http://www.drugwarrant.com/2010/08/don’t-over-analyze-prop-19/

Because you can count on it: the mainstream media won’t analyze it at all
Guest Post to Drug WarRant by KATE WOODS

There has been a jungle of growing chatter within the pro-cannabis community over the issue of Proposition 19, resulting in a rift between growers and advocates.

What could possibly be the issue? – one might ask. The November initiative will give Californians a choice: to either vote for legalization of cannabis, with a tax and regulation plan that assures to ease the state’s budget crisis; or to keep the therapeutic herb outlawed, to continue turning anyone who uses the weed other than a papered medicinal marijuana patient into an outlaw.

But to be droll, the devil is in the details.

From heated Internet debates to kitchen-side coffee/bong klatches, longtime pot-based partnerships have teetered on the verge of dissolution over what each side believes will be the ultimate result of this proposition, should it pass. Many cannabis farmers and brokers (otherwise known as “pushers” to the morally corrupt, “providers” to those of us who know better) believe 19 is overburdened with regulations, that it squeezes out the smaller cultivators with exorbitant fees, licenses and taxes, and that a possible excise tax on every ounce will strain the wallets of their clients. Indeed, the Prop. 19-wary envision Big Tobacco and Wal-Mart overtaking the market, to the point where a refer could become as harmful and hideously unfair as a genetically tinkered ear of Monsanto corn.

They make excellent points, though professional economists may warn that capitalism does not naturally work that way, for one thing. Competition, if allowed to flourish relatively unfettered, produces high quality goods at lowered prices, regardless of the political obstacles. Secondly, there is a sea-change of thinking in this nation right now regarding what we ingest and where it all comes from. Smaller, sustainable, chemical-free local farming, with farmers’ markets and rooftop gardens, are the wave of the future.

But let’s assume for the sake of argument that the smaller guys do lose out, that big industry co-opts the cannabis market and that it gets so bad Big Pharma even undermines the medicinal marijuana movement. What is the alternative at this point?

To vote no? That would mean the small guys would STILL be outlaws. That our prisons would STILL burst at the seams with more criminals persecuted for consensual “crimes” over a bogus “moral” issue. That the DEA would be smug with what they perceive to be a green light to generate STILL more corruption and jack-booted terror. That no money goes to saving the STILL bankrupt state. That more people, unable to obtain medical marijuana cards over technicalities, will STILL writhe in pain. That no one STILL has the right to “get high” – God forbid! That fewer folks, let’s face it, will be in a good mood.

That Prohibition STILL marches on.

And, for me, here’s the kicker: If you know of fellow cannabis supporters who vote no on Proposition 19 because it is not perfect, you can safely tell them they have encouraged mental de-evolution in the human species. It would be a massive slide backwards taking years to overcome, and here’s why.

If Proposition 19 is defeated, how do you think the glamour pusses in the talking head video media will report it? Or for that matter, the spineless weenies in the coagulated print media… and of this I know what I speak, being an expatriate of that field. The mainstream media does not ask the question “Why?” anymore, and has not for some time now. They will give dummy-downed sound bytes, proclaiming, “Well, the voters said NO with a capital N today, to legalizing pot! Tee-hee!” — or – “Californians drew a line in the sand today – saying medical marijuana… maybe… but NO WAY to wasties with the munchies who just wanna get high!” – or how about — “The children were saved today when voters decided they don’t want drug pushers peddling at the grammar schools….” Yes, it’s absurd, incorrect, even putrid, but there you have it.

They won’t go into the fact that the pro-cannabis community split the vote because some of them thought it was crafted unfairly for some growers or users. The media won’t analyze it so intellectually – because their editors wouldn’t allow such intricate, confusing thought! The mainstream media can’t wrap their heads around this, so how can they expect what they see as the “dense public” to understand it? Ergo, the public will be spoon-fed – and will swallow – the simplistic, retarded “wrap-ups” of this issue, effectively killing any chances of bringing legalization back to the table for years.

Remember, medicinal marijuana – voted in by the public in 1996 – wasn’t perfect either. In fact, it had to be amended some eight years later to allow dispensaries to operate. (Oh, I know. If only local city councils realized that dispensaries are legal, that patients are really in pain, that medicinal marijuana is legal to smoke, to sell.)

Let’s unite ourselves, once and for all, on our collective goal. We have come so far, and it would be a travesty if some of our own – disgruntled over just half a pot of gold instead of a whole pot of gold – were to lose the entire prize for all of us. If there is a glaring problem that presents itself after the victory, believe me, it can and will be fixed. If we can get this so long overdue proposal on the ballot, we can certainly rally ourselves and the system to work out the kinks soon after.
 

budlykush

Member
We need to pass this proposition. This is the start needed to make cannabis legal.

California was the first medicinal state and look what is happening, 14 states have medical cannabis.

We need to break the ice somewhere and California is a trend-setting state. We do it and many others will follow.

We have the power to change things.

BK
 
I don't speak on behalf of our collective when I say this, but previously I have been somewhat against this initiative because it does not go far enough, and it could potentially limit medical marijuana in California, depending on how it is interpreted. On the other hand, people need to take into account just how difficult it is in California, because of the large population, to actually get something like this on the ballot at all. Another thing to consider is the fact that, say for example, certain places or court ruling hand down decisions that now limit medical marijuana, to begin with, it will take years for those challenges to get heard and through the courts, and as well, if or when the provisions of 215 are shot down, that will challenged also, and it would have to go to higher courts before it could be implemented by the fascists, and that could take years, too. In the meantime, we may see a better, more expansive, and less restrictive initiative or bill get passed which we could then decide on. If the huge amount of people arrested in California each year for less than an ounce or just over it, are going to stop being harassed and sent to jail, then the initiative really is a good thing, and you can't take the position of economics and greed over freedom for the average individual.
So, if I voted, I would probably vote for this, but I don't vote, so maybe my opinion doesn't really matter.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
Prop 215 will still be the law of the land the day after election day regardless of Prop 19's passage or rejection. I know a lot of people have this idea in their head but they're simply mistaken. One can only overturn or modify a ballot proposition with another ballot proposition, and it needs to be specifically worded that it is to have an effect on the ballot initiative that passed and is now law.

I must say I'm stunned that Prop 19 is so polarizing to my fellow potheads. I would have never predicted that. Definitely a facepalm moment for me.


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BigBudBill

Active member
Yeah, but maybe this is what we need.
We need to see who loves Cannabis and who loves $$$$. The excuse, that it doesn't go far enough, is bullshit and we all know it. Mature people in a mature world compromise in order to achieve their goals.
Are we going to act like children and insist on perfection to the point we screw ourselves out of the compromise that has been negotiated for us? If we do, then maybe, just maybe our movement has not matured enough. For our sakes, I hope this is not the case. The real enemies are the "True Believers" and the ones who push that propaganda on us because they feel it is their job to be the moral police of this country.
What is scarier, the people who believe Cannabis is evil or the ones who know it isn't but perpetuate false information in order to maintain the their position?
 

McLabia

Member
I had a debate about this earlier today with a friend, and a couple weeks ago with a lady I met at hempcon. My friends from Humboldt, so I can see thier financial reasons for it, and she made no bones about it being a financial reason. The lady that I met at hempcon is going to vote no because of the age restrictions...I dont think that enough people really understand what it means to take "One step at a time"

Prop 19 is the FIRST step in the right direction. We need to legalize the green.
 
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