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does ppm affect nute strenght?

doams

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so having this overfeed problem everytime
which is strange coz when mixing nutes/bb bloom + bb topmax/ only 1-2drops of fertilizer goes into 1l water. and plants got burned tips which is confusing.

no idea about ppm of this tap water but if its like very very high will it affect nute strenght making it too strong for the plant?

you must agree that 1 or 2 drops per litre in w4 of flower causing nute burn isnt allright with the world is it?

got this feeling if going by the charts and give like 2ml it will kill everything overnight..!
does ppm work like this or is it something else like springtails processing too much and making coco nute strong? btw have a lot of em in pots atm
 
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doams

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ppm IS the nute strength.

didnt knew that :D

but still like 1/2drop per litre and burn?
thats like too little..

so you are saying that this water is probably too high in ppm/strong in nutes or something else whatever that ppm is/ already and 1/2drops per liter is like normal feed all becuz of that high ppm water?

so to sum it up:
is 1 or 2 or 4 drop/per1l of fert with high ppm water considered normal amount of fert in like w4 of flower?

Dunno why but it doesnt looks right even on the screen
its too little :D








 

lotus710

Active member
Most tap water has chlorine and chloramine in it. Where i am if you used tap water without nutes youd burn emXD
 

doams

Member
Most tap water has chlorine and chloramine in it. Where i am if you used tap water without nutes youd burn emXD

So math heads could count how much is my water ppm just from that 1 drop of fert in 1l?
right..
like 1drop adds this much ppm and if that ppm adds to already in water ppm then if its like above something like >2000 its bad and causing burn so have to dilute nutes with distilled water like 1 to 5 so final 1drop will be 5times weaker yes?

any tips is it over like 700?
my blind guess is maybe more.. but not a math head
:laughing:

e: will boiling the water lower the ppm? what about cofee filters /lol/
seriously..
 

PoweredByLove

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you measure the water ppms, then you add the nutes and measure again. the final number you feed with it water+nutes. i dunno what you're feeding but 1drop in 1 liter is probably not causing burns if anything you're most likely having a deficiency.
 

maimunji

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I start to think this burn tips in flower is some kind of deficiency. Possibly from calcium because when I up cal mag dose burn tips progression slow and finally dissapear or new growth.
 

doams

Member
you measure the water ppms, then you add the nutes and measure again. the final number you feed with it water+nutes. i dunno what you're feeding but 1drop in 1 liter is probably not causing burns if anything you're most likely having a deficiency.

good info!
does this looks deficient always end up like this?
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ph is always checked and between 5.7-6.0
e: coco and runoff 20percent daily fresh nutes water adjusted at least 20hours ago so its stable at 5.8
e2:was thinking bout using cd marker on leaves to see if that burn continues if it is burn or burn with some deficiency that ligh green color on leaves migh be some deficiency or is later flower so its normal..
btw its week 5
day 74 from seed 12/12.
12/12 is defo faster it showed pistils around day 30 still few weeks to go its 8weeker..
 
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PoweredByLove

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yeah you definitely have some deficiencies going. what kind of nutes are you feeding, the n-p-k values? looks like a lot of K and mag def and either phos or nitrogen too. those leaves look pretty green up top so it's most likely phos. basically all the stuff they need the most in flower. what ppm is your water before you add the nutes and after nutes? when i was using coco i found 6.0-6.3 was better. for me anyway. when it got below 5.9 growth slowed a little.
 

doams

Member
yeah you definitely have some deficiencies going. what kind of nutes are you feeding, the n-p-k values? looks like a lot of K and mag def and either phos or nitrogen too. those leaves look pretty green up top so it's most likely phos. basically all the stuff they need the most in flower. what ppm is your water before you add the nutes and after nutes? when i was using coco i found 6.0-6.3 was better. for me anyway. when it got below 5.9 growth slowed a little.

yeah
so today added 5drops/l bb bloom plus 3drops/l bb bioheaven plus 15drops/l topmax and final ph adjusted a bit higher 6.3 it was under 6 before all the time.
lets see how it goes also marked that tip burn edges with a cd marker to see if its spreading. dont have ppm meter but will change that was naive to think it wont be needed dont want to do this to plants they are stressed alredy too much.

thanx for reply good sir :)
 

PoweredByLove

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oh wait you said you don't have one. i would use whatever it says on the bottle for growing stage. or potted plants. i'm not familiar with this bb max. whatever the recommended dosage is. use that. and double the amount of whatever they say for flower.
 

Snook

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doams, you've been around for 3 years. don't know how serious you are about growing it ( I know you're serious about using it) but get a PPM/ec meter, calibration solution for it and learn how to use it. Ditto on a PH meter. If you have no concept or fail to grasp the concept of these two big parts of the puzzle, you're spinning your wheels.. Good Luck.. my advise - read more:tiphat:
 

PoweredByLove

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i looked up these nutes you're using. biobizz is it? i dunno what you're using for a dropper but you need a more accurate measuring device. do you have measuring spoons, a syringe? these are all organic nutes i take it since i don't see any numbers on the bottle. whats the application rate? 1x a week? every watering?
 
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doams

Member
doams, you've been around for 3 years. don't know how serious you are about growing it ( I know you're serious about using it) but get a PPM/ec meter, calibration solution for it and learn how to use it. Ditto on a PH meter. If you have no concept or fail to grasp the concept of these two big parts of the puzzle, you're spinning your wheels.. Good Luck.. my advise - read more:tiphat:

Yeah been using distilled water mostly but got tired of paying for it so tap water it is. it was all good with distilled problems started after switch to this shitty tap water.

really curious how "high" is this water in ppm.
first run was done even without ph pen /with distilled tho/ and been using 10times more nutes havent even bothered to measure it plants got burned yes but it was a good smoke and potent too thanx to genetics.

doams, you've been around for 3 years. don't know how serious you are about growing it ( I know you're serious about using it)

:D:biggrin::biggrin:
 

doams

Member
i looked up these nutes you're using. biobizz is it? i dunno what you're using for a dropper but you need a more accurate measuring device. do you have measuring spoons, a syringe? these are all organic nutes i take it since i don't see any numbers on the bottle. whats the application rate? 1x a week? every watering?

been using this dropper:
3_ml_dropper.jpg

and since its coco nutes are added every watering.
 

doams

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thinking about cuting her down next week most of the leaves are drying she looks like shit lowered the runoff to 10percent think shes lil bit overwatered or something goin on in root zone but she doesnt look to survive another 2 or 3 weeks :(
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stoned-trout

if it smells like fish
Veteran
ppm is nute strength,, but usually not the added stuff you want from the tap...yeehaw 383 ppm here in city
 

Dropped Cat

Six Gummi Bears and Some Scotch
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thinking about cuting her down next week most of the leaves are drying she looks like shit lowered the runoff to 10percent think shes lil bit overwatered or something goin on in root zone but she doesnt look to survive another 2 or 3 weeks :(
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You will not make her happy, that time is long gone.

You can easily keep this plant alive until ready.

Looks like can go another couple weeks, how many
watts anyway.
 

doams

Member
think the problem is using 2y old biobizz nutes.
will flush the shit out of it and switch to synthetics /its fresh like just 1y old/ maybe it will help
lets see.

yeah so old gone bad nutes used caused all this wondering what those little springtails think about the mess they live in caused by this head stupidity
:D
 

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