Documentary on moonshine got me thinking

[Mr. Nevermind]

there is a documentary on moonshine on TV. I find it interesting that in a land where alcohol is legal that moonshine is illegal. The only reason its illiegal , LEO admitted, is that the government cant collect taxes on it. So as long as you pay uncle sam then you can make your own but if you dont hten youre a criminal even though the substance is legal. Sad truth is that if herb is ever legal they wont let us gorw our own without taxing us. And thats bullshit. This country is a joke. Its not about right or wrong. Its about what Uncle sam can get out of you. So if herb is ever legal i feel we will still be seen as criminals for our grows just liek moonshiners.





Nevermind

 

[Pops]

You are right, Mr. N. You can make some home-made wine and whiskey, but it is limited. However, you can't grow even one pot plant. Pot is now a $35 billion a year business in the U.S. It is suprising to me that the gov't hasn't figured a way to tax that yet. Guess that the only way they can is to legalize it and the jesus freaks would never vote for them again.

 

[TrichomusCaesar]

You must watch how you make moonshine. Improper distilling technique can cause the formation of methanol rather than ethyl alcohol. Methanol can make you very sick.....consumption is very much not recommended. Just a message to those who now think they'll go and make moonshine.

 

[darrinjefferson]

so why if you can make your own beer and wine why cant you mkake moonshine? seems to be the same thing to me.

late

 

[BonsaiGrower]

TrichomusCaesar nailed it..it's not safe and if you've ever seen the devastation of a moonshiners equipment exploding it's pretty crazy. The Tax issue is the real reason it's not happenin but the safety issue is a legit reason. Excellent point though....it should be legal and made safe at the same time ... it is a scary thought that we would still be though criminals after it's legal. or am I just high? ...
Peace

 

[Verite]

Safe? How about safe as pluging it in and walking away? $300 ready to go still.

http://www.ohgizmo.com/2007/01/27/alcoholics-unanimous/

 

[Haps]

If you use herb, what would the booze be like? Or would the heat cook all of the goodies out?
H

 

[Sativa_Fan]

It's basically the same as marijuana prohibition if you think about it. If the government can't make money off it, then it's illegal.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

It's basically the same as marijuana prohibition if you think about it. If the government can't make money off it, then it's illegal.

exactly, thats my point. its not about right or wrong. Only about if they can make money on it. Cigs kill millions a year but are legal and get taxed to death, yet Mj hasnt killed ever cant be taxed ( that they can think of) so its illegal? Booze is legal only if you pay taxes on it, but if you amke your own then your a criminal? This is bullshit. Our " founding fathers" would riot if they saw what this country has become


Nevermind

 

[Trichome Toker]

Making moonshine is totally safe if you know what your doing.

Same way growing herb is totally safe if you know what your doing, but it can be deadly, if you use improper wiring etc.

Cannabis could very easily be taxed, the amount of people trying to get around taxes on legal Cannabis would be small, less than 10%, same as people who make illegal moonshine is relatively small compared to the legal market.

The reason Cannabis is illegal, is years of false propaganda, combined with racism against Mexicans and Blacks, two of the first groups to widely use Cannabis.

The old men in power in Washington now, will always associate Cannabis with lazy spics, and devil worshiping Jazz playing niggers.

P.S.

Didn't mean to offend anyone with my terminology, but mark my words, that is exactly the kinds of words the people involved with our drug policy use in private conversations believe me.

Also, people like Nixon are quoted as saying all the pro Cannabis legalization people are dirty Jews etc.

Modern day rap music, promoting Cannabis, as well as "hippie" music promoting Cannabis, also insure that the government will never make it legal.

They would be doing a favor to a segment of society they hate with a passion, blacks, and hippies.

 

[its kurmit]

moonshine is illegal b/cits dangerous if done wrong, and if done right it can b dangerous to, so strong ur mouth blisters when u dirnk it, 1 shot is like 6+ and it tastes like an obese womans belly button

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

You are right, Mr. N. You can make some home-made wine and whiskey, but it is limited.

Beer and wine are legal to produce in personal ammounts by federal law, but any distillation (as in whisky) without paying the tax is illeagal.

With all the people who grow Cannabis now without getting caught, collecting taxes off it would be equally hard, this is part of the reason politicians frequently don't support leagalization, I mean whats the motivation? They can't make money off it!

 

[bounty29]

I think there are far more than enough people that smoke and would buy brand-named weed from stores. Of course people are growing, but I bet a whole lot more don't want to or can't. The government would make plenty of money from them, even with a modest tax. If it does get legalized, I'm sure it would be taxed to an obscene amount.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

I would be happy in a world where growing Cannabis was legal, but selling it was not.

 

[bounty29]

I feel like if there's no benefit to the government, then why do it? They would have nothing to gain from that, and sadly, I think someone with some money and influence is what's going to be necessary for change.

 

[guineapig]

Many authors on the subject of the "free market" argue that this is the primary reason Cannabis remains illegal......

There's a good book on it if i can find it by googling.....

-gp

 

[Trichome Toker]

moonshine is illegal b/cits dangerous if done wrong, and if done right it can b dangerous to, so strong ur mouth blisters when u dirnk it, 1 shot is like 6+ and it tastes like an obese womans belly button

No it is because of taxes.

Moonshine is legal to buy in my state, if you pay taxes on it.

It is called "Everclear", and it is 95%+ grain alcohol AKA moonshine.

$20 for a nice sized bottle that could easily kill you if you drank it all at once.

 

[Trichome Toker]

Beer and wine are legal to produce in personal ammounts by federal law, but any distillation (as in whisky) without paying the tax is illeagal.

With all the people who grow Cannabis now without getting caught, collecting taxes off it would be equally hard, this is part of the reason politicians frequently don't support leagalization, I mean whats the motivation? They can't make money off it!

You can grow tobacco too, but the large majority of tobacco farmers chose to register, pay the taxes, report income, and live a legal lifestyle.

Same would be true if they legalized Cannabis.

Right now in San Francisco, they are starting a program to tax medical Cannabis.

You could easily tax legal Cannabis, or at least the large majority of it.

Most people wouldn't even bother to grow their own Cannabis, let alone grow it without paying taxes, they would just purchase it from a store, making taxation easy.

The government could make billions of dollars a year taxing Cannabis, same with all other illegal drugs.

 

[Trichome Toker]

I would be happy in a world where growing Cannabis was legal, but selling it was not.

So would I, but billions of people with no horticultural skills would not be happy.

 

[its kurmit]

i would prefer cannabis to be decriminalized, not legal, b/c if it was legal the gov't would get involved and then put chemicals in it and tax it and all that shit, but if its decrimalized the price stays down, and it can b homegrown quality herb