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do you want the truth no matter how much it hurts?

in light of all the garbage that is posted in the tokers den, i'll start a real conversation for once.

in life you have two people, one who wants the truth no matter how much it hurts, and the one who lives in a bubble.. who doesn't want to know what's real

it's like my ex-girlfriend.. if she asked me about her new hat, and I didn't think it looked good- i'd be honest and tell her. She admitted she'd rather me say how nice it is, pretty much lie about it :nono:

my one brother whos' ****ed up anyways, married his wife after she got pregnent. the kid was born looking italian, and she even insisted on an italian name. not his, or HER heritage at all!! so it turns out she "hung out" with an old italian friend but supposily didn't sleep with him.

He absolutely REFUSED a faternity test! he didn't want to know, and to this day loves her as his own daughter. which is fabulous but not for me! I would want to know regardless of how much the truth hurt

if someone has something truthful to tell me, please ****ing do so! I will take in like the adult i am, and accept it! after all it is reality!! I've met too many people who don't want the truth. It's a crutch, and a bubble they form around themselves as to not get hurt! are they insecure? are they afraid of being hurt? Who knows!
 

The_Leader

Non-Hilocentric
Im a firm believer in, "if the truth hurts: you shouldnt have done it!"


I also believe in not giving out info unless asked about that particular incedent. no more, no less.

I do lie, but not to myself. imho to lie to yourself is the dumbest way to be.

im high and old, so what do i know, aye?
 

asa42

Anime n Stoner Aficionado
deep topic...

deep topic...

i would rather know the truth!! being lied to sux as bad as not knowing, so just be honest...

that is what i so badly want to say to someone, however since only lies come out their mouth i've quit talking w/ em... asshole!

sorry, bad memories there.

another example i can think of is with my love. when we got together we agreed that on the off chance we ever found ourselves interested in someone else, as much as it would hurt we'd rather talk about it honestly & seperate before one cheated on the other.
 
The truth is we have been fed mind junk our entire lives...I think a child's mind is affected by the many inputs that it is given..and when you input this destructive retro culture that man or who ever you want to point the finger at here has created for us..this institution that is basically forced on you at birth...then there is no wonder we have such confusion in the world, why we have unhappy people, why we have drug addiction and because we take the same approach with our own people as we do with terrorists..we do not negotiate when we label these substances drugs, it's just like Christianity's thought process...when you already 'know' you have the right answer you don't ask any questions and this is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen...

When I was a young boy I remember the first thing that my mother taught me was the teachings of Christianity...did these values stay with me? Is this how I understood right from wrong?? These are all inputs that have corrupted our ways of natural thought...when we wipe out that old way of thinking we ask deeper questions...and when you do this you really start to see yourself being pulled farther and farther from their institutions...this is something I think the cultural engineers and the people behind closed doors that make the rules, and your the code of your life sort of speak..
are well aware of...this is why they label them 'drugs'..this cancels out the thought process..instead of teaching how they can be used properly and affectively....we deem them demons and snare those who use them..imagine how that input affects your habits...they will use these inputs to turn your brain into the half baked retard that doesn't ask question...

I want to know the truth too..
 
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tempes~tos

Active member
Very intelligent topic, sir.

I once heard that childhood ends when we become aware of our own mortality. The bubble pops. We realize that all this WILL end one day.
But some people choose to blow a new bubble around them... A bubble of a career.. new car.. new girl.. new house... we try to engulf ourselves in ignorance.. in the little petty games we play in society.

The truth really does hurt. I did mushrooms once, and for 6 hours I thought about everything in the world from a new perspective. I realized a lot of things.. and I havent been able to forget them. My bubble popped, and it hurts like a mother****er. I can't get back into the game. Nothing in this life seems real or important anymore. How futile our existences really are...
 

Soft Smoke

Member
Be wary , my friends of what you wish for. As the dangers of asking for perfect justice, so are the dangers of asking for perfect truth.

The small lies we all live with daily can be examined with relative impunity and revealed for what they are...harmless.

"Hello, Mrs. Smith, you sure look nice today. I hope you have a nice day."

Platitudes and civilities we accept to keep the peace and keep reign on our inner barbarian. But what about the larger lies we brush up against occasionally nad tend to ignore for fear of facing an unpleasant truth?

"That S.O.B., Mr. Johnson, promoted Smith instead of me. They probably play golf together. I bet that Smith has his head so far up Johnson's butt that..."

Let's go even deeper into our reality and examine some lies we accept because to believe otherwise would upset society as a whole.

"The police are here to protect and serve the community"
"Corruption is limited to a few dirty hands and couldn't possibly be as widespread as Hollywood makes it out to be."
"People generally do what's right and are inherently Good"
"Our government would never stoop to the behavior and tactics that describe every cruel dictatorship in recorded history"
"There is no place for secret police in America"

Let's go even farther with lies we as a society dare not put credence in lest we bring the wrath of Big Brother down upon us.

"Assassination, blackmail, extortion, terrorism; Our government would never use these tools of power upon its own people to maintain power and silence dissent."

There are truths and there are truths. There are lies I cannot live with and lies I can. All of us live in a bubble that is semipermeable to the truth. The more revealing and fundamental the truth, the less likely it is to be allowed into our bubble. the question is, how big is your bubble and how large do the truths have to be before they are shut out?

There is such a thing as knowing too much. And just like anything else in life; too much of anything no matter how good can be bad for you.


Living happily in my own small bubble of willing ignorance,

SS
 
G

Guest

Bubble boy....

Bubble boy....

I know what you mean about being told the truth but if I knew the truth I'd probably have no friends left.It's what you don't know about that makes you hate them..... :dueling: PEACE!!!MUCHA!!! :joint:
 
There is such a thing as knowing too much. And just like anything else in life; too much of anything no matter how good can be bad for you.


Living happily in my own small bubble of willing ignorance,

SS


I'm starting to think this way as well...where as my life used to seem pointless I have found that creating art and letting my mind flow on paper as much as I can reminds me that this is just to complex to just be nothing....

I keep my mind in a state of blissful awareness, see that, there stands the difference...I'm aware that the ground that stands beneath our feet is also an illusion...I know there is no up or down outside of this bubble..and I'm sure this frightens many....but I know that today I stand here knowing that they will never be able to get another leg up on me again...

you can't be paranoid just accept it...it's the only way not to wake up crazy and angry every morning
 
Be wary , my friends of what you wish for. As the dangers of asking for perfect justice, so are the dangers of asking for perfect truth.

The small lies we all live with daily can be examined with relative impunity and revealed for what they are...harmless.

"Hello, Mrs. Smith, you sure look nice today. I hope you have a nice day."
Those are called white lies and you're right they aren't a big deal but I don't believe thats what anyone means here. We're talking about the kind of lies where the person is being deceiving and not telling the truth because they are hiding something from you.
 

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