Do 'cuttings' count as plants?

[CyrilSneer]

Do medical patients have to count cuttings WITHOUT roots as part of their plant limit? I have a call in to MMAR but no reply yet. The fellow I talked to seemed to think as long as they are still in the cloner .. they are NOT considered a plant. We gotta know for sure, it makes all the difference in the world.
thanks Anyone?

 

[VagPuncher]

Yes.

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[Stress_test]

It depends on which state you are in. In WA cuttings without roots don't count as plants. However there is currently a bill being considered which would change the current law.

I suggest that you check the laws for your state. Seriously... Check it yourself and memorize the entire statute, instead of asking and then taking the word and interpretation of others here.

EDIT: Never mind: I just realized that this is posted in the Canadian forums.

 

[CyrilSneer]

"I suggest that you check the laws for your state. Seriously... Check it yourself and memorize the entire statute, instead of asking and then taking the word and interpretation of others here."

Well like I said I have a call in to MMAR but no reply yet.. so, I am checking, I just wanted other opinions.

 

[CyrilSneer]

thanks Vag.. thats what I was affraid of

 

[TheHashAssassin]

I think it is a grey area, and if taken to court would prob be ruled as not part of your plant count. Licenses are issued for plants in 'PRODUCTION'. The last time I checked a clone, even with roots on it, isnt 'PRODUCING' any medicine yet.

 

[B. Friendly]

a pot or bucket or peat puck or whatever it all counts. I don't understand how an unrooted plant will not be seen as a plant. Cops cannot tell if roots are there or not.


I count everything.

the only trick you could pull is putting two plants in one pot. after a while it would be looking like one plant...

You'd have a case, but since all the police would do is take the extra's above your number limit, what would you really lose????????

 

[Guest 150314]

you could always keep your moms and clones at another location?

 

[dmt]

no if they have no roots they arent counted as plants, do your homework vag, d

 

[dmt]

a pot or bucket or peat puck or whatever it all counts. I don't understand how an unrooted plant will not be seen as a plant. Cops cannot tell if roots are there or not.


I count everything.

the only trick you could pull is putting two plants in one pot. after a while it would be looking like one plant...

You'd have a case, but since all the police would do is take the extra's above your number limit, what would you really lose????????

police will check if there is roots, and will not count them if they have none, d

 

[Lazyman]

Same here in California, it must have roots to be a plant. Thank god, otherwise my clone tent would be some serious trouble!

 

[mean mr.mustard]

police will check if there is roots, and will not count them if they have none, d

Cops cannot tell if roots are there or not.

Never overestimate an overly employed undertrained wife beating machine.

Basic biology and math skills are as lacking from the force as service and protection.

 

[Guest 150314]

police will check if there is roots, and will not count them if they have none, d

Why would you ever let police in your med grow?

 

[dmt]

becuase they have a right to count the plant numbers, and people do have panic buttons at their med grows too, that occaisionally false alarm, d

 

[dmt]

and there is safety green teams across the province if you were unaware of them, d

 

[dmt]

and annual fire inspections at warehouses and stratas lol, d

 

[Guest 150314]

Fire department are not the police and the "green teams" are health canada employees, from what I have heard both are almost always accompanied by police,but you do not legally have to let the police officers in. Health Canada advises against it as well.. Police don't have the right to count plant numbers unless you let them in.

The only way I could see you legally having to let police in to count plants is if they had a WARRANT. I am sure if they show up they will try and coerce/scare you into letting them in, happened to a friend and he just pulled out his camera and started filming them .. they gave up and waited in the driveway while the fire department did the inspection alone.

Even the HC inspectors need your consent to enter the grow, if they show up when you have to much dry weight in storage you can ask them to leave and come back the next day so you have time to "destroy" it hahaha..


Inspection

57. (1) To verify that the production of marihuana is in conformity
with these Regulations and a licence to produce, an inspector may, at
any reasonable time, enter any place where the inspector believes on
reasonable grounds that marihuana is being produced or kept by the
holder of the licence to produce, and may, for that purpose,

(a) open and examine any receptacle or package found there that could
contain marihuana;

(b) examine anything found there that is used or may be capable of
being used to produce or keep marihuana;

(c) examine any records, electronic data or other documents found there
dealing with marihuana, other than records dealing with the medical
condition of a person, and make copies or take extracts;

(d) use, or cause to be used, any computer system found there to
examine electronic data referred to in paragraph (c);

(e) reproduce, or cause to be reproduced, any document from electronic
data referred to in paragraph (c) in the form of a printout or other
output;

(f) take any document or output referred to in paragraph (c) or (e) for
examination or copying;

(g) examine any substance found there and, for the purpose of analysis,
take samples, as reasonably required; and

(h) seize and detain, in accordance with Part IV of the Act, any
substance found there, if the inspector believes, on reasonable
grounds, that it is necessary.

(2) An inspector may not enter a dwelling-place without the consent of
an occupant of the dwelling-place.

(3) An inspector who seizes marihuana shall take such measures as are
reasonable in the circumstances to give to the owner or other person in
charge of the place where the seizure occurred notice of the seizure
and of the location where the seized marihuana is being kept or stored.

(4) If an inspector determines that the detention of marihuana seized
under paragraph (1)(h) is no longer necessary to ensure compliance with
these Regulations, the inspector shall notify in writing the owner or
other person in charge of the place where the seizure occurred of that
determination and, on being issued a receipt for the marihuana, shall
return it to that person.

SOR/2007-207, s. 19.

 

[dmt]

green teams are rcmp in municipalities or cities like pitt meadows or mission,

and 911 calls for robbers or panic buttons allow police to clear all the inner and outer areas of a property. you dont have to let them in under ordinary circumstances. but if rippers are breaking into your warehouse and alarmforce notifies the police, they can eneter without a warrant, and will count your plants, d

 

[dmt]

and if they see clones that put you over, they will pull them out of whatever they are in, and they know no one will call a lawyer to charge them with enforcing health canadas guidlines, d

 

[Guest 150314]

OK well not everyone has panic buttons or live in pitt meadows/mission ... I was just trying to let people know that under normal circumstances you should never let police or RCMP into your grow unless they have a search warrant. Canada is a big country and not all the med growers live in lower mainland with grow busting squads and gang problems that require elaborate alarm systems.

G'day mate.