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DJ shorts flo Vs sagarmatha flow and other

Red October

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Sagarmatha has never been a "sexy" company really, even a few years back when they where more prevalent I still remember feeling like they where a secondary f2 producer and it still shows today as there is very little mention of them anywhere, but all in all they have managed to survive this long and I'm really interested to hear of any good strains that are still relevant. Flow was always a big contender against Flo and thunderfuck cut was always well respected, I'm also liking diamond head and Honolulu haze because of the Hawaiian background. Hawaiian punch isn't available anymore but that was also one of the ones I always liked on paper.

Would it be better to get DJ shorts new release of Flo compared to the sags flow? Not sure how they would compare directly as far as high goes, both have had their time in the past and I wouldn't mind getting a taste.
 

regseeds

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Would it be better to get DJ shorts new release of Flo compared to the sags flow? Not sure how they would compare directly as far as high goes, both have had their time in the past and I wouldn't mind getting a taste.

If you buy direct from the breeder in the case of DJ Short you can be 100% sure of the pedigree of the plant. You can count of 1 hand how many breeders you can say that about

When you purchase any F2 selections. all it takes is one bad male to screw it up. You may have to do a clean up if any bad selections are done

IMO the choice is self-explanatory. DJ lines have been used relentlessly since their inception.......... nothing more needs to be said
 
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Limeygreen

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A very unique hybrid of the F1-Hybrid of the Indica Matanuska Tundra and the Sativa Flow, that produces a meditative, focused stone. Great for musicians and computer operators.
 

WelderDan

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I would go with the man himself. Have grown his strains and have been happy with the result. Most tend to be light feeders, but I found the Blue Moonshine to be a hungry beast that wasn't nearly as sensitive as Blueberry. Flo is a light feeder too. Go easy on the nutes.
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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dj short doesn't have new version of Flo, it is still that good ole Flo. he still has his old Flo mother, I think it is 27 years old now or so.. I am growing some mix of Flo, blueberry and blue moonshine now. it smells so gooooooood! even in veg.
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Red October

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If you buy direct from the breeder in the case of DJ Short you can be 100% sure of the pedigree of the plant. You can count of 1 hand how many breeders you can say that about

When you purchase any F2 selections. all it takes is one bad male to screw it up all. You may have to do a clean up if any bad selections are done

IMO the choice is self-explanatory. DJ lines have been used relentlessly since their inception.......... nothing more needs to be said
Thanks regseeds and I know what you mean, I always wanted to grow his stuff but they were always too pricey for me, still going to try and read through more posts to see if I can find any reviews on his Hawaiian stuff, the one thing I don't like and it's a bit sloppy of them is they used the same picture for Honolulu haze and a-1 haze, doesn't build my confidence in them:biglaugh:
 

Red October

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dj short doesn't have new version of Flo, it is still that good ole Flo. he still has his old Flo mother, I think it is 27 years old now or so.. I am growing some mix of Flo, blueberry and blue moonshine now. it smells so gooooooood! even in veg. View Image
Thanks for setting that straight for me Maha, I think I've been mixing up info between the f13 and Flo in my brain:biglaugh: she looks like she's going to make a nice big cola.
 

Red October

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I would go with the man himself. Have grown his strains and have been happy with the result. Most tend to be light feeders, but I found the Blue Moonshine to be a hungry beast that wasn't nearly as sensitive as Blueberry. Flo is a light feeder too. Go easy on the nutes.
I've seen now with the current hybrid plants I'm doing I'm not used to the higher feeding requirements these plants need, the one sativa in the group is hawk clawing while all the others look like they're starving:shucks:. I think I may have some bad pH issues.

Love that pic of the cherry bomb X c99 you have there, sounds like it would be a very good match, is it the Dr greengenes cherry bomb?
 

regseeds

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@RO, treat it as a investment, the small investment in DJs stock will save you thousands of $ and more importantly time sifting through all the Johnny-come-lately stock. If you do not make any bad selections, you have those lines for life. I would counter the argument and say $100ish is peanuts on the dollar for 30years of his work/risk. May i mention one more time in this large industry he is one of the first names I would add when I can say you can be 110% sure about the pedigree.

If anything DJ doesn't charge enough for his work but he does a great job of making it accessible to everybody. We're all lucky for that

Price is what you pay............ Value is what you get........
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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Deep purple hues darken the buds the more they mature. The motivational high produced by Flo is quite unique and long-lasting. The flavor is that of old school Nepalese Temple hash with a head reminiscent of Highland Oaxaca Gold pro ducing a musky/burgundy/floral complex palate: A most enjoyable and pleasant experience.
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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I would be also interested in honolulu haze, but I am not going to it :D it could be interesting to see it though. if I would be in situation I cant pay for DJ Short seeds, which is no shame or something.. I would not go with sagarmatha, but I would go with rare dankness. they use colorado flo cut, which is probably selection of DJ Short´s flodica, indica version of flo. and they crossed it with their proved haze male.. description:"Lifts your spirits and open your mind. A sativa dominate hybrid of the highest quality. The Nevil’s Wreck male brings out compliments many of the Sativa qualities of the Colorado Flo mom. Large yielding variety requires staking or trellis for greatest results and yields. Many pheno’s exhibit purple hues which increase during periods of cooler temps. 10-11 weeks flowering time. Larger yield makes up for extra flowering time. Very unique terpene profile and incredible flavor. Lemon - Pine- Temple hash."
 

Red October

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Deep purple hues darken the buds the more they mature. The motivational high produced by Flo is quite unique and long-lasting. The flavor is that of old school Nepalese Temple hash with a head reminiscent of Highland Oaxaca Gold pro ducing a musky/burgundy/floral complex palate: A most enjoyable and pleasant experience.
lord that just sounds amazing, I did consider Flo og too but it also seemed more of an indica high, what I really want is what you're talking about here, I do have my comfort Vs spending level, which I'd peg at around $80-90 being my ceiling but Flo and TTH both sound too good to pass up and both breeders deserve what's due to them.
 
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Red October

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@RO, treat it as a investment, the small investment in DJs stock will save you thousands of $ and more importantly time sifting through all the Johnny-come-lately stock. If you do not make any bad selections, you have those lines for life. I would counter the argument and say $100ish is peanuts on the dollar for 30years of his work/risk. May i mention one more time in this large industry he is one of the first names I would add when I can say you can be 110% sure about the pedigree.

If anything DJ doesn't charge enough for his work but he does a great job of making it accessible to everybody. We're all lucky for that

Price is what you pay............ Value is what you get........
true that man and this is why I'm glad I rather asked than just trying to make up my own assumptions about which route to take. These types of work are indispensable and between you and Maha you've put my mind at ease.
 

WelderDan

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I've seen now with the current hybrid plants I'm doing I'm not used to the higher feeding requirements these plants need, the one sativa in the group is hawk clawing while all the others look like they're starving:shucks:. I think I may have some bad pH issues.

Love that pic of the cherry bomb X c99 you have there, sounds like it would be a very good match, is it the Dr greengenes cherry bomb?

Yeah, that's Greengenes CB, from the first public drop of those genetics back in the Overgrow days. I grew it again a few years ago from beans sourced from another member. Happy to report it looked, grew, smelled and tasted exactly the same.
 

regseeds

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true that man and this is why I'm glad I rather asked than just trying to make up my own assumptions about which route to take. These types of work are indispensable and between you and Maha you've put my mind at ease.

Very welcome my friend, good luck
 

regseeds

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true that man and this is why I'm glad I rather asked than just trying to make up my own assumptions about which route to take. These types of work are indispensable and between you and Maha you've put my mind at ease.

Use Phylos with a grain of salt, but this is exactly what i was talking about. What can be certified as true is this version has nothing to do with the original blueberry, you can see it's relation to "Jack" strains. Safe to say this version of "DJ short's blueberry" is total bunk. All related blueberry's are out crossed to NL/Skunk/Amsterdam < fill in the blanks. You would think calling it "DJ Short's" it would be a reproduction but it's not even that



Heed this as a warning, be careful who you accept and buy seeds from in the future, you can taint any lines you have with garbage very easily. I'm sure blueberry skunk was great, but it's not DJ's blueberry, that's my point entirely.
 

Montuno

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Deep purple hues darken the buds the more they mature. The motivational high produced by Flo is quite unique and long-lasting. The flavor is that of old school Nepalese Temple hash with a head reminiscent of Highland Oaxaca Gold pro ducing a musky/burgundy/floral complex palate: A most enjoyable and pleasant experience.

The only Flo I have tasted (about 20 years ago) with such a motivating and euphoric effect were the green ones: excellent plants; they tasted like floral & grape jam. But most of the Flo came out purple, with an effect that had nothing exceptionally remarkable, and a taste of hash, moss, earth and berries...
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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The only Flo I have tasted (about 20 years ago) with such a motivating and euphoric effect were the green ones: excellent plants; they tasted like floral & grape jam. But most of the Flo came out purple, with an effect that had nothing exceptionally remarkable, and a taste of hash, moss, earth and berries...

green ones are little stronger, and purpling flo is more mellow. sure as far as effect it cant satisfy you, if you prefer long flowering sativas :D but still it is very unique hybrid, and effect is quite long lasting, which is remarkable for such short flowering plant. be sure I will cross it with haze.

I found this description to be very accurate. "Flo seems to simultaneously be a Sativa and an Indica rather than taking turns, as many strains do. Relaxing, uplifting, and mentally clear, Flo's effects package are perfect for those looking for some body relief and relaxation but still need to retain functionality. It's never a super-potent strain to the point of being overwhelming — it's a very even and smooth experience overall that is highly recommended for all levels of patient, primarily as a daytime med."
 

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