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DIY cheap Bulkheads (Big ones)

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Inspired333

Here's a(nother) DIY on how to make cheap bulkheads. There is info around on how to make them but here's how to make big(ger) ones, and a tip on assembly.

If you simply need a drain on a bucket or something like that, you can use 1/2" or 3/4" with no problems.
Get a Male Pipe Thread (MPT) electrical (grey) conduit adapter, a garden hose o-ring - not washer (fits over MPTs), and Female Pipe Thread (FPT) PCV plumbing ball valve of the same size.
Drill a hole just big enough for the threads of the conduit adapter into the bucket (or whatever). Put the o-ring over the threads of the conduit adapter and insert on the inside of the hole. Then screw on the ball valve nice and snug so that the o-ring is pulled tight against the inside of the bucket.
You can now screw in a barbed adapter/elbow if your ball valve is FPT on both ends, or pvc pipe or other fitting if its "Slip" on outside end, or just leave it like I did on mom bucket.
(two conduit fittings will probably fit snug in these sizes too, if you're just gonna go PVC pipe from there on or some other configuration. If not, keep reading.)
Simple enough for that.

But if you want bigger sizes of bulkheads/through-hulls; say you wanna build a Undercurrent, you wanna join buckets for RDWC, you want bigger drains - whatever, you might find the adapters will not screw together all the way tight.
The threads on Plumbing and Electrical are different! You want to use only Electrical conduit for anything over 1" I'd say. The threads are straight all the way down and the don't taper like plumbing threads, which allows you to screw them all the way tight - theoretically*

I was reading over some information earlier about PVC; fittings, pipe, etc, when I came across some info I had read before - when something struck me.
It seems a lot of people misuse teflon tape and 'pipe-dope' compound, which is one reason why people over-tighten threaded PVC.
Teflon tape/pipe is generally(;/) meant for metal fittings (apparently) and it essentially acts as a lubricant for the threads to allow them to be more easily screwed together.

My idea bulb went off when I read that sentence. I thought if I used teflon tape, it would lube the threads so they could smoothly tighten together.
So I ran out to home depot and got PVC conduit in all three sizes in both MPT and FPT to test it all out.
I had bought bigger sizes of PCV conduit (male and female) in 1-1/4", 1-1/2" and 2" and they would NOT screw together all the way tight - not even close! There was a gap as big as a 1/4" or more in the two 2" fittings.
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(the white t-tape is worn cause I assembled/disassemble a few times)

Teflon tape was the solution.
The two 1-1/4" conduit adapters screwed tight together against the o-ring without any teflon tape or lube. So if you think that size suits your needs, and 1-1/4" pipe is available to you, you're set.

The 1-1/2" adapters got one layer/wrap of teflon tape and then were able to screw down smooth as butter night and tight onto the o-ring.

The 2" adapters received one (at first), then 2 (worked better) layers of teflon tape and screwed down nice and tight as well. Though I'd prefer fatter/thicker o-ring if I was gonna use 2" size.

Google how to properly apply teflon tape if you're not sure. It goes on in the same direction as you're going to screw in said fitting (clockwise) so that it doesn't bunch up when you screw in it. usually, one layer is enough (cover the threads with one uniform layer). Make it tight on the threads.
It's only there for lube/slickness - it is NOT supposed to add width or anything like that.

COST:
If I wanted to use Uniseals, which LITERALLY just showed up at my door while writing this, I'd HAVE to order them online, from the states (one place in canada) and they'd be $9-13 each, not inluding shipping, depending on size. You need 2 per bucket/rez, so for four bucket+res UC you're looking at $100 easy.

None of the PVC fittings I've listed cost over $1.50.
Maybe:
-Male adapter $1.50
-Female adapter $1.50
-O-ring (bought in bulk years ago) $pennies. (bought a bulk variety pack)
-Teflon tape $fractions of pennies.

Basically, the main advantage is that you can find all of these things and you can make them all work together. And it should be half the cost of a uniseal, at least. I saw 2" bulkheads online for like 40+ dollars each!

I can edit this post to make it nicer later. I just wanted to share, now. And will add pictures after work.
Thanks
 
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DHF

My old puter crashed and burned some yrs back , but in my favorites saved was the website and DIY details to use "electrical fittings and O-rings in the plumbing aisle at Lowe`s or Home Depot to build bulkhead fittings of ANY size in available "grey conduit" with the same sized O-ring gasket to indeed make connections between rez`s , inline bucket to bucket , or ANY sealed tight waterproof connection without the need for uniseals or any high dollar pre-made bulkhead fittings........and.....

Even though the threads were "tapered and self-sealing/waterproof" on the electrical connectors , I STILL used Teflon tape for added insurance , and here you are adding that in Inspired....

Respect.....Many of the old secrets have fallen through the cracks over the yrs when the old sites went away........

Many waysta skin a mule.......Ya`ll go to old threads and archives for how us old heads taught each other back in the day howta rock this shit..........

Peace....DHF....:ying:.......
 

RM - aquagrower

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I've always used 2" pvc shower drains, available in the plumbing isle at home depot. When I built my last system, they were 'bout $7 ea. Bulletproof.

There are pics in my "old gallary". Don't know how to post them.
 
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Inspired333

My old puter crashed and burned some yrs back , but in my favorites saved was the website and DIY details to use "electrical fittings and O-rings in the plumbing aisle at Lowe`s or Home Depot to build bulkhead fittings of ANY size in available "grey conduit" with the same sized O-ring gasket to indeed make connections between rez`s , inline bucket to bucket , or ANY sealed tight waterproof connection without the need for uniseals or any high dollar pre-made bulkhead fittings........and.....

Even though the threads were "tapered and self-sealing/waterproof" on the electrical connectors , I STILL used Teflon tape for added insurance , and here you are adding that in Inspired....

Respect.....Many of the old secrets have fallen through the cracks over the yrs when the old sites went away........

Many waysta skin a mule.......Ya`ll go to old threads and archives for how us old heads taught each other back in the day howta rock this shit..........

Peace....DHF....:ying:.......

I read a lot on forums (of all sorts not just MJ) and I always see great posts and information from you - it's an honour to have DHF chime in, lol. Thanks.
I think the issue is mainly that the threads aren't important here as far as that they self lock or seal tight - thats not what we want in this case. We need the two pieces to screw all the way together, tight against the bucket surface - which has o-ring on it.
This can't be done with pluming PVC.
It can be done with electrical conduit PVC because the threads allow it. I just wasn't able to at first on the larger sizes because it was binding and catching etc. With a little teflon tape, the problem is solved.

I've always used 2" pvc shower drains, available in the plumbing isle at home depot. When I built my last system, they were 'bout $7 ea. Bulletproof.

There are pics in my "old gallary". Don't know how to post them.

Cool, I'd love to see which part that is - I'm no plumber...yet :)
I'll see if I can find it.
(I think you have to load pics to IC in album, OR another photo hosting site and then link them.)?
 

rives

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As you noted, electrical pipe threads are not tapered. Plumbing pipe threads are a whole different animal in that the taper gives an interference fit between the two fittings to stop seepage out of the threads. Electrical fittings and conduit are designed so that you get the same fit on a locknut, insulating bushing, or whatever anywhere along it's length.
 
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growingcrazy

I've always used 2" pvc shower drains, available in the plumbing isle at home depot. When I built my last system, they were 'bout $7 ea. Bulletproof.

There are pics in my "old gallary". Don't know how to post them.


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RM - aquagrower

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^^Thanks, there is another pic in there showing the drains, looking down into the tubs.

The system in those pics ran non-stop, without so much a a single cleaning or rez change, for about 4 years. Not a single problem.
 
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Inspired333

As you noted, electrical pipe threads are not tapered. Plumbing pipe threads are a whole different animal in that the taper gives an interference fit between the two fittings to stop seepage out of the threads. Electrical fittings and conduit are designed so that you get the same fit on a locknut, insulating bushing, or whatever anywhere along it's length.
Cool. And by that you mean that the electrical fittings are made so that all the other related electrical fittings are able to thread on assuming same size fitting, i.e.: 3/4", or 2"?

Ahh - Those are perfect, aren't they? Haha. Does it come with a gasket/o-ring/seal? For ~$7-8?

^^Thanks, there is another pic in there showing the drains, looking down into the tubs.

The system in those pics ran non-stop, without so much a a single cleaning or rez change, for about 4 years. Not a single problem.
Same question: Does it come with a gasket/o-ring/seal? For ~$7-8? (And wow, that's incredible longevity. Haha.

nice!
this too works for smaller things.
electric waterproof fitting.
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Yea, I have one of those in a drawer too :) I think it's a 1/2" or 3/4".
 

RM - aquagrower

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The shower drains come with 2 gaskets, one for inside, and one for outside. Tighten the big nut to mash everything together and done.

The supply lines into those tubs are 1/2" conduit fittings.
 
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Inspired333

Those shower drains sound *perfect*! I might have to look/ask for'em next time I'm at the store.

And I assume the conduit you speak of is on the inside of the tub.
Sick, looks great man.

Thank you.

PS: your name hints that you might be an "aquaponic" user, i.e.: you have a setup where fish and plants live in harmony and benefit mutually?
 

RM - aquagrower

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PS: your name hints that you might be an "aquaponic" user, i.e.: you have a setup where fish and plants live in harmony and benefit mutually?

Yep. Ran an aquaponics system for years. The little piece of handywork in the pic above was for veg.

There is another pic in my "old gallery" showing the pump rez and external bio-filter. The plant pics are "aqua buds".

Details can be found here: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=23123
 

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