Desert Grow - Heat Stress or Mites?

[mojave green]

This turned into a very informative thread. Great conversation.

 

[Mikell]

sessile

attached directly by the base : not raised upon a stalk or peduncle <a sessile leaf> <sessile bubbles>

Or for our purpose, a sessile trichome.


Peduncle. Say it out loud. Words are funny things.

 

[Robrites]

Peduncle. Say it out loud. Words are funny things.

Good poetry word if the writer can find a use for it.

https://youtu.be/Nk_1mEln6Yc

 

[Robrites]

107 degrees
wind from the SW at 24 mph
nobody light a match

 

[Robrites]

The soil reached Ohio but it is Friday so looking at next week.

Meanwhile
* Wind... west to southwest winds of 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35
mph... shifting to the west to northwest and increasing to 20 to
30 mph gusting to 40 mph after 2 PM.

 

[IGROWMYOWN]

Damn 40 mph I thought 30mph was beast some of my hollow stem stuff broke had to up my support, what are you using with those winds? Mine have some beast thickness to their branches from the winds.

 

[Robrites]

Damn 40 mph I thought 30mph was beast some of my hollow stem stuff broke had to up my support, what are you using with those winds? Mine have some beast thickness to their branches from the winds.

This is the worst combination of wind and heat all summer. They have had opportunities to adapt. Haven't checked them this afternoon...hope my fencing holds.

 

[Robrites]

and Science and Math say...

and Science and Math say...

Here are the Logan Labs reports.


Soil

Saturated Paste

All knowledge, experience and help will be appreciated.

 

[milkyjoe]

So your heat stress is pretty obvious now. The plant is taking up more Na than K. Get some spectrum extra from tainio...when you call them share your paste test and let them recommend.

An as odd as it seems spray some K

Edit...coco is the source of the soluble Na.

 

[Robrites]

Here is what the ol' gal looks like this morning. It is the farthest up the hill and gets more direct sunlight than the others and is also in the worst shape.

 

[Robrites]

So your heat stress is pretty obvious now. The plant is taking up more Na than K. Get some spectrum extra from tainio...when you call them share your paste test and let them recommend.

An as odd as it seems spray some K

Edit...coco is the source of the soluble Na.

Thanks milkyjoe. I am finding spectrum on the taino website but not spectrum extra (edit: found it and see the difference). Looks like I have to order from one of their distributors. There is a local one but I know the guy..definitely not weed friendly but a great place for raw milk and organic beef. I'll keep looking.
"spray some K." explain it like I'm five please..

Also, yesterday I watered in some dr. earth metabolic transformer

The Exotic Ingredients:

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Will it have the same effect as the spectrum?

 

[Robrites]

Here are the Logan Labs reports.


Soil
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Saturated Paste

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All knowledge, experience and help will be appreciated.

So many questions...
Organic matter 49%? Is it that high because of coco? Is it going to make soil dry out faster?

Total Exchange Capacity - Is that the same as - Cation Exchange Capacity? Is 9.40 good or bad?

What is a good sodium level and if I water more, will that level drop?

 

[Robrites]

Insect ID

Insect ID

Found this critter among my plants. I have no idea what it is. It is about an 8th of an inch long. It may be good or may be bad. Please let me know what it might be. Thanks.

 

[Madjag]

Here are the Logan Labs reports.


Soil
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Saturated Paste

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All knowledge, experience and help will be appreciated.

Good pH....the organic material is almost 50%, kind of high.
You are very low for Sulphur which could be the source of a number of issues.
Low in Boron also, necessary for plants to utilize calcium.

- from Michael Astera in his example of reading a soil test:

"Next we come to a couple of Anions, Sulfur and Phosphorus. Anions are negatively charged atoms. They are designated by the - minus symbol. Sulfur is important for many life processes including formation of protein. Most soils in high rainfall areas are deficient in Sulfur as Sulfur is easily leached away in water. Onions, Garlic, and members of the cabbage family all require a lot of Sulfur to grow well. At 13ppm, this soil is far too low in Sulfur."



You should pop for $45 and have Michael Astera tell you exactly what you need. Nothing like having an expert lay it all out simply, telling you exactly what you need:

http://www.soilminerals.com/soiltestservices.htm

Read this to get an idea of how to do some evaluating on your own:

http://www.soilminerals.com/soiltest_page1.htm

 

[Robrites]

Thanks Madjag

Thanks Madjag

Good pH....the organic material is almost 50%, kind of high.
You are very low for Sulphur which could be the source of a number of issues.
Low in Boron also, necessary for plants to utilize calcium.

- from Michael Astera in his example of reading a soil test:

"Next we come to a couple of Anions, Sulfur and Phosphorus. Anions are negatively charged atoms. They are designated by the - minus symbol. Sulfur is important for many life processes including formation of protein. Most soils in high rainfall areas are deficient in Sulfur as Sulfur is easily leached away in water. Onions, Garlic, and members of the cabbage family all require a lot of Sulfur to grow well. At 13ppm, this soil is far too low in Sulfur."



You should pop for $45 and have Michael Astera tell you exactly what you need. Nothing like having an expert lay it all out simply, telling you exactly what you need:

http://www.soilminerals.com/soiltestservices.htm

Read this to get an idea of how to do some evaluating on your own:

http://www.soilminerals.com/soiltest_page1.htm

Bookmarked.
Thanks for taking the time to answer. I sent the results of the soil test to taino.com and should have their recommendations in tomorrows mail.

How do I get the sulfur and boron up?

 

[waveguide]

the bug is a leafhopper. haven't seen them decimate but they're suckers, and crafty ones. they will hide from you by inching around the far side of the stem. if you catch one and throw it out the door, they will fly back and hide on you and catch a ride.

i doubt they're a threat to an outdoor grow.

 

[Robrites]

the bug is a leafhopper. haven't seen them decimate but they're suckers, and crafty ones. they will hide from you by inching around the far side of the stem. if you catch one and throw it out the door, they will fly back and hide on you and catch a ride.

i doubt they're a threat to an outdoor grow.

I think you are right. You nailed its hiding behavior to a "T".

 

[Robrites]

Soil Recomendations

Soil Recomendations

Don't think I will be doing coco outdoors anymore. Way to much organic matter and I think it dries out too fast. Not real sure how to reduce the recommendations down from pounds per acre to my hole sizes but at least have an idea of what is needed. (Edit: looks like page 2 ended up at the bottom.)

 

[milkyjoe]

So to convert from lbs per acre to lbs per yard divide bt 807 for the macro stuff. I say spray the micros...or measure the actual density of your soil and pm humphreydave.

Kind of disappointing they did not adress the paste test

 

[Robrites]

So to convert from lbs per acre to lbs per yard divide bt 807 for the macro stuff. I say spray the micros...or measure the actual density of your soil and pm humphreydave.

Kind of disappointing they did not adress the paste test

Ya, it is certainly not their main gig...I emailed them about a product they offer and just decided to attach my soil report. I am thinking cal mag plus would be helpful at this point but still need to learn about sulfur.

Cal-Mag Plus contains: calcium, magnesium, iron, boron, zinc, manganese, molybdenum, copper, cobalt, iodine, beneficial vitamins, twenty essential amino acids and select botanical plant extracts.