Depersonaliziation

[Guest]

Well yall I recently heard someone mention that smoking weed can cause depersonalization. Where your in a fog, daze, dreamlike state through life. However I'm not bothered by this I just want to make a discussion on it. So feel free to talk

 

[Guest]

hahaha I typed the thread title too fast. Mod it would be nice if you could spell check it

 

[Guest]

hell ya. cuz sometimes when your blazed u realizehow stupid or annoying some people are. so ur like quit blowin my buzz u kno.

 

[Guest]

hmm, ive known some people that have been smoking weed for longer than ive been born and they seem to be pretty normal when they arent high... maybe it happens if youre just constantly baked. sounds like BS to me. but then again, im probably wrong.

 

[Guest]

hmm, ive known some people that have been smoking weed for longer than ive been born and they seem to be pretty normal when they arent high... maybe it happens if youre just constantly baked. sounds like BS to me. but then again, im probably wrong.

your pretty wrong dude. the anti-weed propaganda isnt propaganda the shit they say does happen but only to a few people so its not that big a deal. plus if it does that to u just quit then problem solve. weed aint shit.

 

[KingRalph]

if depersonalization is actually stepping outside of your little bubble and taking more of a 3rd person view of the world... then maybe... but shouldn't we all do that to some degree anyway?

 

[XxJ03YxX]

Maybe it does cause depersonalization.

Or maybe it just allows you to view everything in a whole different perspective.

Honestly, if this is depersonalization, then, I like depersonalization. Maybe its not always a bad thing. But one may think so.


I'm sure depersonalization is possible, but isn't that the case with everything? From food to heroine..Just my honest opinion though.

 

[Gangabiss]

Depersonalisation? Bah! It's just a word...better than being an ignorant clown all your life.

Actually I think what you're referring to has been called 'cannabis psychosis' and can occur in some people who have been smoking huge amounts every single day from morning to night for years and years...but still once you stop smoking within a couple of weeks you're right back to normal.

 

[guineapig]

depersonalization yes, dissociation no....

i do believe that Cannabis somehow causes a short-circuit in the "Ego" part of the
brain so that wants and needs and desires are temporarily suspended.....if you think
this is the "depersonalization" of which you speak then i am agreeing with you.....this
depersonalization is somehow connected to "thinking outside the box" and the musical
improvisation which comes from Cannabis use by jazz musicians.....

I am still not sure about "cannabis psychosis" and the whole paranoia phenomenon.....
it could be just living in a world that has decriminalized the most human of activities
somehow leads to these states of mind.......i'm still thinking about it, though...

kind regards from the guineapig

 

[sogman]

I can guarantee not %5 of the people here have ever checked into a mad house so people spouting shit bout depersonaliaztion being good..... You need to cut that cocky shit out. I've been on anti-psychotics before. Never did anything but make shit worse!

Fuckin better to be tense and high strung then completely moodless and have absolutely no motivation to even brush ur teeth. Risperdal and seroquel are some disgusting drugs that nobody can benefit from! I would walk into a mall and start sweating from the tension of having to be around other people. Paranoid as hell wondering if their laughing at my expense or if they's just laughing.

I am one of few people who has had severe repercussion's from a drug called accutane. Now I know some people are gonna laugh now cause they took it with no side effects besides a boost in confidence (bastards) but the fact is on the label it told me what was possibly gonna happen. Did I pay attention to that shit, no fuckin way I did I was cocky and naive. Second day I took that stuff I was perspiring and shaking almost violently. My parents thought I should hold off till I went back to the doc. In tears wanting to be free of a skin condition I pressed on. Now accutane is kinda unique in a sense cause it stores itself in the fat lipids. So it sticks with you for a couple months and In my case it was total hell.

From that day forth my view on drugs changed. I couldn't even enjoy getting high, in fact it caused anxiety for a long time. I slowly worked my way back with herb enjoying small amounts periodically. After a year it came to me that my life was in shambles and the only way I was gonna survive was to play ball. So i took babysteps gaining my confidence back. For fuck sakes I was so messed up I couldn't even enjoy being around friends, but it took time. Now I live by ethics that I like alot. It's called the don't give a fuck attitude. Not like being angry or anything, just plain easy going. Do what ya gotta do but don't let your worries control you. You can tell I'm still pickin pieces up by my contradictory speech there but that's what my life is like. Contradictory!

Overdoze I don't know if you have an agenda when you ask other people about depersonalization, cause I'm wondering if your possibly going through something and need advice. If in doubt don't smoke too much! Life is about trial and error, don't be afraid of mistakes. Hell I'm making them daily!

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

anything can cause the clinical state defined as ´depersonalization´.
the death of close ones does it to some people, car accidents to others, prescription drugs, or entheogens on an unprepared mind. i have a solution though, lets make death illegal! damn, i am so smart i freaks me out sometimes...



peace

 

[alaeddin]

I agree with what Paz said, anything can cause depersonalisation. It depends on you and how you regard life. I actually feel that weed gives me more motivation and life energy, it lets me see outside of the box as you guys said, which helps me solve my problems. It teaches me a lot about myself and helps me get through the web of problems and find answers.
But depersonalization can happen, it is all about your mind. The stronger the drug is, the more depersonalization is likely to occur, because the more you lose control of your ego, the less social infrastructures and everyday pleasures seem interesting to you. This, then turns either into a grey smog that you feel covers your brain and existance or a search for something higher. Finding something higher requires a lot of energy and is very hard. When you are not interested with yoru life anymore, it is what people call depersonalization, because it seems like it is a stereotypical condition. It actually is, everybody ends up in approximately the same place and state of mind. This is just like an acid junkie thinking that you can't feel anything if you are not tripping. To an outsider, this guy looks like just another junkie with a shade of a character.
This has what I have thought about this and what I have experienced. It is all easy when you don't have to worry about staying alive.

 

[motaco]

yeah I feel that sometimes. like I'm watching shit happen.

 

[newbieb]

risperdal did the same thing to me

 

[Guest]

If this helps...
Being we are utilizing a psychological/psychiatric term. I thought I'd add the direct DSM definition and criteria. For those whom don’t know, the DSM-IV is the “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA).

Depersonalization Disorder

Patients with this Dissociative Disorder experience episodes during which they feel detached from themselves. They may experience themselves or their surroundings as unreal. They may feel outside or lacking control of themselves. They retain awareness that this is only a feeling.

Diagnostic criteria for 300.6 Depersonalization Disorder

A. Persistent or recurrent experiences of feeling detached from, and as if one is an outside observer of, one's mental processes or body (e.g., feeling like one is in a dream).

B. During the depersonalization experience, reality testing(*1) remains intact.

C. The depersonalization causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

D. The depersonalization experience does not occur exclusively during the course of another mental disorder, such as Schizophrenia, Panic Disorder, Acute Stress Disorder, or another Dissociative Disorder, and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., temporal lobe epilepsy).

*1. reality testing: This term refers to an individual's ability to discern, perceive, appreciate or "test" the qualities of their surroundings, usually when that capacity is impaired by, for example, psychosis.

Source: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/depersdis.htm

If you've ever seen the movie K-Pax, that would be a decent example of someone with depersonalization.

 

[Guest]

Where your in a fog, daze, dreamlike state through life.

Some herb makes me feel like that. Some strong ass indicas get me all dazy etc,
When I don't want to feel that way, I smoke sativas, for the up feeling.
Not so bad in my opinion, it's like saying coffee drinkers suffer from hyperpersonalization - Where your anxious, alert, and in a tweaky state through life..."
Just someone trying to say "pot's bad for you or something..."

 

[Guest]

who?

 

[sogman]

Ganja lord, kevin spacey in K-pax has nothing to do with depersonalization.
He was completely delusional and believed his own garbage. Most people who are becoming depersonalized realize it and try to fight it, they complain about feeling depressed cause they can't feel normal no matter what their doing, even when their having fun it's tainted by feeling's of abnormality and they can't fully enjoy themselves.

I think everyone becomes depersonalized when theyre high to some degree but the true definition of it would really show it's a mental condition.

 

[sogman]

Theres a dividing line between schizophrenic's and people goin through a depersonalizing crisis. But most mental conditions are highly treatable, with decent success rates. However I think pharmaceuticals are taking advantage of people seeking help without guidance. Psychology is far more successful than psychiatry.
Less drug's and the patient gets a chance to interpret his emotions and opinions to the professional without a prescription.

Although many psychologist's and psychiatrist's don't have a fucking clue what their doing cause most likely few of them ever experienced anything that they could relate to a patient. The human mind is a terrible thing to waste, don't crowd it with an onslought of etheogens every moment you get!

 

[Guest]

[/QUOTE]The human mind is a terrible thing to waste, don't crowd it with an onslought of etheogens every moment you get!

sorry, etheogens are part of my life