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Demoing Some of Eye of Providence's Quaze Based Strains.

FranJan

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So.....where to begin. I guess this all starts way back in 2014 when I got this crazy jones to grow and smoke, (mostly smoke :)), some Dr Grinspoon/Quaze Haze but for whatever reasons, (probably financial), I never got around to getting some seeds or going to the 'Dam to just smoke some. Now from there we need to fast forward to about a year ago when that urge to grow again after a 6 year layoff was just too great to ignore, (probably in no part due to smoking waaay too much U.S. based hybrid strains), so I slapped a grow together and tried to get back to a farmer's life. I had some seeds leftover from back in the day but a lot of them never sprouted. So I said to my self, "Hey genius, why don't you get some fresh seeds and finally grow some Grinspoon? No excuses this time!". But a funny thing happened on the way to the forum, it seems Grinspoon/Quaze is just about impossible to find in the States atm. Barney's Farm doesn't have any, the usual seedbanks don't have it, (I did find it at 2 well known seedbanks, one said they had it but admitted not having any until after I paid and the other one I didn't pull the trigger on because I didn't trust them after reading some reviews and for the way they went about the sale). Even the US seedbanks I do know don't carry it or don't have any. I thought I was shit outta luck but if one searches the Intertoobs for Grinspoon/Quaze long enough you will eventually come across the Eye of Providence's website, (http://eyeofprovidenceseeds.com/), and on it the pretty wild Quaze crosses they've developed. So instantly I tried to buy some seeds from them but things aren't that simple for EoP at the moment. So to make a long story short, after some back and forth and some patience and persitence on my part, the good souls at EoP gifted some of their seeds to me including some femmed Quaze seeds which I will be eternally grateful for.

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Now the one thing I did agree upon was that if I grow any of their strains I have to keep a record or journal of the grow and with the blessing of EoP I have decided to do it here for some people's interest and amusement. I've also decided to do it at ICMag because the owner/principal breeder is an active member here, (@Passenger101), and I urge anyone with questions about the genetics, origins and lineage of the strains used for this demo to contact him as I am in no way as knowledgable and invested in these strains as he is. And just to clarify that while I am friendly with Passenger101 I am not an employee, family member or whatever and any kind of compensation I receive is Passenger101's appreciation, (if I don't eff this grow up too bad I guess :D), the seeds and hopefully some classic smoke. Basically I'm just a grower in a "right place at the right time" type situation.

This journal is also a record for EoP to see how their gear will perform in the hands of a typical home grower and will probably be filled with transcribed notes and photo dumps for the most part. This is the busy time of the year for me at work so I can't say I will be constantly posting or be online here all the time. In other words I'm more than happy to answer any questions you have just don't expect an immediate answer. Also I am not a "Sativa Whisperer" so please feel free to post any coments, opinions, critiques or info you may have that might be of interest to everyone following. Shit, when it comes to actual sativa growing experience I've only grown SSH, Super Lemon Haze and had a 12+ week haze heavy Tangerine Dream that produced late foxtails and copious amounts of weed so I could always use a little help. I mean I love smoking sativas but growing them can be challenging, (that's a nice way of saying PITA 😜).

So everything is in motion and I'll be back soon with some info about the strains that I'm going to try along with some nute, environmental and lighting info too so let's close it out with a cover of that Chamber's Brother classic. Time has come today indeed my friends!



 

tobedetermined

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I will be following along to see how you make out.

I grew a Dr G a few years back . . . or should I say a Dr G filled my tent for 6+ months. It was from the ~2019 Barney's release and as far as I know, the actual pearl Quaze pheno is gone. What you got was a huge plant with massive arms filled with tiny buds. I still have a few seeds left, so will grow it again sometime but I swore that I would do it differently next time. I grow in coco and next time I will use a 2 gallon pot max. And I will skip veg and go 12/12 from seed for the earliest possible flowering to try to contain the plant size. Btw the high from my Dr G bubble hash - which I dip into all of the time - is nicely zippy and a great wake and bake.

Good luck! :rasta:
 

FranJan

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Okay so let's get right to the heart of the matter, what seeds am I gonna pop? I asked Passenger101 what strains would he go with and he replied,
"I’d go with one (Durban x Quaze) x Quaze, one (Durban x C 99) x Quaze) x Quaze and the Zamaldelica x Quaze. It just seems like a solid sample to start with", and so I figured Passenger101's opinion should have a little more weight than my wishes on this and also because of his generosity how could I not go with that lineup. Personally I would of done a Quaze, Durban x Quaze and a EoP but as of now because of the difficulty I'm having getting a Crawling Eye - (Quaze 50% x Zamaldelica 50%) to pop, (0 for 3), I'm gonna go with a straight Quaze/Grinspoon instead which should please a few folks. We'll get to the other strains during the next round.

So as of now we got going:
A Quaze on the left, two Eye of Providence - (Durban 25% x Quaze %75) in the center and a Eye of Cthulhu - (Quaze 75% x Durban Poison 12.5% x Cinderella 12.5%), on the right.
Gotta an extra EoP because I thought the seeds I initially soaked in a coffee filter failed but the EoP finally cracked open in the filter after 3 days but by then I had already popped one in mix when I thought all the soaked seeds failed. That seed, (red cup) sprouted in 2 days and we'll probably go with the red cup EoP and I'll figure out what to do with the extra later.
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Oh and the reasoning we're just going with just 3 strains is that I live in NY and while I wouldn't call their cannabis laws set in stone, (and I don't think they're enforcing any laws that they don't profit from atm), I live in a situation where I don't want to jepoardize my lease, so state law say 6 plants and only 3 plants flowering at one time for the home grower, so it's time for me to use a little discipline and insure I don't have any issues from my board during this grow.

Grow Medium/Nutes:
I'm a soil guy, (as you probably can see), so this is my usual Ocean Forest and Happy Frog mix. All seeds are started in 16 oz cups cups of HF and will be transplanted into 3 or 5 gallon cloth bags. Usually I use a 3 gallon bag first and transplant to a 5 but since these are all femmed seeds and sativas I don't think I'm going to veg too long and will probably go straight from a cup to a 5. Either way all plants will be getting a dose of both Azos and DynoMyco during transplanting. Other nutes and such I'll be using are;
AgroThrive GP (3-3-2) and AgroThrive FF (3-3-5) - This will be their primary food. I won't use much, (if any), of the General Plant food since the fresh mix, Azos and other additives should carry them through veg but Fruit and Flower will be the plant's main feed.
Kelp It Real - Primary supplement in flower.
Incredible Bulk - Late flower supplement.
TPS Cal/Mag and Silica - Used primarliy in early veg, the silica I use till almost the end of flowering.
Velo Kelp (1-1-1) - Used as a foliar feed during veg will also water it in after a rough transplant.
Re-Charge - Early veg and flower for supplement or a double dose when the're issues with a mature plant's roots.
Dyna-Gro (7-9-5) - I use this as a foliar feed in early flower and when desperate I add it to any plant if things go tits up.


Environment/Lighting:
For vegging I usually start them under a much less intense light but for this grow the seeds are going straight under the full spectrum Volt Grow VL-1 with it's big blue spike.
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I'm hoping the heavyish blue spectrum keeps the nodal length in check and keeps them all a bit stout. This is an open 2 x 3 grow area they'll be occupying for veg utilizing a 12/1 gaslight schedule. After that it's into a 4x4 tent with an Iluminar i8 ePARtrack bar system which is straight overkill for a 4x4 or even a tent IMO. We'll get back to the Iluminar light, and more flower-tent/enviro info later.

Unfortunately when it comes to light levels it's tough for me to to get things like an exact ppfd level or even the lumens for these lights because of multiple reasons/excuses like; the extended spectrum on LED panels makes the average PAR/Lumen meter inexact, too many different whites and monos don't help that situation. The fact that the cheapest ePAR meter setup you can get is $400.00, (which I would rather spend on hookers and blow than making Dr Bugbee richer). Another would be I suck at math for the most part and until someone writes a program that allows one to go back and forth between PAR and ePAR, (if that's realisticly possible), I'm just gonna use my phone's light meter with Android PPFD Meter and Volt's and Illuminar's ePar and Par maps to get some kind of idea of the light levels. Additionally my lighting is hooked up to a Volt LED controller box, (which I have a completely dysfunctional relationship with :p), that will cut the light output to 50% anytime it approaches 86°F or 78% RH. Right now the controller will fluctuate between 200 to 240 watts on the veg light and the ladies seem pretty happy with this setup, in an area I estimate to be getting ~500 PPFD.

Temps in the room bounce back from 76°F-78°F with lights on, I'm going to try to keep the lights-off temps in the room at around 74°F to 76°F but in severe cold the temp may dip to ~68°. Veg temps are around 78°F to 82°F and Flowering temps range from 76°F to 84°F. The LED controller really controls the temps during lights on. I will most likely be doing some tweaks to the flowering tent which will allow me to run my custom scrubber which will control temps further I expect. Again more info later. Gotta run!

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"And what you give is what you get".


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FranJan

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I will be following along to see how you make out.

I grew a Dr G a few years back . . . or should I say a Dr G filled my tent for 6+ months. It was from the ~2019 Barney's release and as far as I know, the actual pearl Quaze pheno is gone. What you got was a huge plant with massive arms filled with tiny buds. I still have a few seeds left, so will grow it again sometime but I swore that I would do it differently next time. I grow in coco and next time I will use a 2 gallon pot max. And I will skip veg and go 12/12 from seed for the earliest possible flowering to try to contain the plant size. Btw the high from my Dr G bubble hash - which I dip into all of the time - is nicely zippy and a great wake and bake.

Good luck! :rasta:
I've seen the posts, and your posts about the pearl pheno being gone. I kid you not that when I selected the Quaze seed I picked an old-school type seed from the bag, fat with tiger stripes, just to see if by some miracle that pheno pops out. Doubtful it will because I believe on EoP's website they say they didn't breed with that pheno but if I ever do find one you'll be one of the first to know.

Wow, thanks FranJan. This is probably going to be some of the best treatment these seeds will get. Also nice musical choices!
Gonna try my best that's for sure. And I've been known to tests people patience with my musical choices so we'll see if your opinion changes. LOL



So just a little update, a little news and a little light, (seemingly), issue. So the good news is the Grinspoon/Quaze seed that was planted in mix sprouted 3 days ago and strangely enough a Crawling Eye (Quaze x Zamadelica) finally sprouted. Whenever I have a seed that doesn't sprout I always go looking for it and if I find it I plant it in another pot or shove the seed off to the side of the cup just to be sure it's a blank. This time I shoved it to the side and threw the Quaze/Grinspoon into it's cup and sure enough a day or so later I saw a little seedling crawling up the side of the cup so I grabbed my trusty plastic spoon and gently dug that sucker up and planted it in a fresh cup of mix. I'm still going to go with the Quaze this round but will save the CE for the next round. I think I will keep it closely under a weaker light and train it, (along with the extra EoP ), while it waits it's turn.

And speaking of the EoP, the only issues I'm having seems to be with these ladies. They've got some odd growth going on, the first one more so than the second, which I believe is a lighting issue so I moved them under a less intense light I use for clones and seedlings. The first EoP seems to be getting straightened out so hopefully this was the issue. I think the Volt Grow has a bit of a hot spot in the center and the light level was a bit intense where they were. I've dropped the intensity down a bit and will put them back under once the growth issues straighten out. Otherwise it's the usual waiting game at this stage. Hopefully no more issues and I'll probably hold off posting more till I transplant them.

Eye of Providence - (75% Quaze Haze and 25% Durban Poison)
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Quaze and The Crawling Eye - (Quaze 50% x Zamadelica 50%)
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The Eye of Cthulhu - (Quaze 75% x Durban Poison 12.5% x Cinderella 99 12.5%)
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Just a quick family photo.
On the left Quaze and Crawling Eye respectively, center are the Eye of Providence with the first sprouted in foreground, second sprouted in background, and Eye of Cthulhu on the right.
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See ya'll soon!

Family Snapshot
"It's a matter of time, a matter of will"


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FranJan

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So a little update, transplanted yesterday to 5 gallon fabric pots. Probably gonna do a lttle topping, maybe some training in the near future. Unlike you savages I tend to let mine grow a bit before assaulting them. Just call me Mr Softee.
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The Quaze is a bit behind the other two but I've moved it from the outside to the inside of the grow area and she seems to have responded well.
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Roots on the EOP were pretty impressive, she got a little stressed out in her cup so had no choice but to free her and decided to transplant the other two as well.
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The EOC is just chugging along, no issues, which is fine with me.
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Oh and I'm pretty surprised the CE got a little light stressed. Started off good, seemed to be OK under the LED then went a bit south. Let's see what a week under the GE's will do to her. Looks a bit heavy on the sativa side, got that 16 weeks of flowering look to her, huh? Got PITA written all over her. LOL
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Now it's just a matter of when to start flowering. Decisions, decisions, decisions......

"If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice"


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Passenger101

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They look pretty happy to me.

The Crawling Eye does look like the more Zamal leaning side of it’s Zamaldelica mother. Hopefully that won’t come with 16 weeks of flowering. My Zamaldelica mother’s were all around 12 weeks when pushed into 11-10 hours of light towards the end.
Keep up the excellent work!

Still rocking out to the Mr. Softee song, I’m only 9 hours into it. It’s oddly making me want to fill a chest freezer with child sized maniquins and then put the freezer in the back of my Grumman truck and drive around town. Is it doing that to any of you?
 

FranJan

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They look pretty happy to me.

The Crawling Eye does look like the more Zamal leaning side of it’s Zamaldelica mother. Hopefully that won’t come with 16 weeks of flowering. My Zamaldelica mother’s were all around 12 weeks when pushed into 11-10 hours of light towards the end.
Keep up the excellent work!

Still rocking out to the Mr. Softee song, I’m only 9 hours into it. It’s oddly making me want to fill a chest freezer with child sized maniquins and then put the freezer in the back of my Grumman truck and drive around town. Is it doing that to any of you?
I'm pretty sure after listening to that song for that long your IQ may drop a few points, LOL. There's a great scene in the movie Mr 3000 that proves that the Mr Softee song is MLB's real theme song.

Good news BTW, NY finally got their shit together about growing at home. Sadly no recreational growing, but medicinal growing is a go and I'm all legal now and am going to be a designated caregiver for someone soon and that will allow me to have 12 plants total but I can only flower 6 at a time, (that's OK), so more plants soon. I'm definitely gonna transplant that CE!

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Wow, busy, busy busy and time's just flying by lately.......guess this update is a little overdue.

Plants are growing strong with just a little Cal-Mag, Silica and Velo Kelp helping to grow some nice strong stems. Had a little light stress but have cut the lighting back some and used Cal-Mag to chill out a slight mag def on the Quaze. I'm a little startled by the nodal length of these strains, the CE isn't too bad but I got a feeling the Quaze is really gonna stretch a bit in flower. It's nodal lengths were really large compared to the EoP and CE. The veg area has been running a bit warm, hitting 84-86 that last 2 weeks and I don't think that helps the situation so I'm running the room a bit cooler than usual for now to see if that helps keep the nodal lengths a bit tighter. How about some snaps from the 8th of Oct?
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EoC- Beautiful plant, healthy growth. See the downward tips? That's a sign that the plant has been successfully infected by Azos and is probably a bit of a nitrogen whore!
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EOP is also rocking and looks infected.
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The Quaze has definitely come around but I don't think the Azos has worked on her. Azos infected plants get a nice dark green shade and this girl is not showing that or any other sign. Maybe I'll expose a few roots and try to infect her again. Or not :).
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And another set of photos from the 10th:
Family (Quaze, EoP, EoC)
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EoC looking good!
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Nodal Length on the Quaze
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Anyway after all that I've finally made up my mind about training or topping and I've chosen..............decapitation!

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The reasonings behind this are pretty straightforward. One is I'm still finishing up a couple of plants and didn't have the room in the flowering tent. Also I like the idea of the plant having a good root system that will easily support a smaller plant for now and grow with the plant into flowering. And I want to see if I can reset those nodal lengths. I'm hoping for a bit more bushiness but that could all be wishfull thinking. The previous photos were taken Oct 10th btw and I just wanted to take a picture today, (10/12), to show how they responded to my assault.
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Looking good. Didn't skip a beat actually. No droopiness or severe stunting, (shit, the Quaze looks like she loved it!). They just kept a growing, which I like.

Time Waits For No One
("Hours are like diamonds, don't let 'em waste")


 
Your plants are looking great man!
I'm currently growing Dr. Grinspoon right now (seeds from 2019 release) and I find myself yearning for that pearl/quaze pheno.
I'm 4 weeks through flower and 7 weeks from flip at the moment, and although the buds have great structure, they're of course nothing like Barney's advertised.
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I hope you find something special in one or all of these quaze crosses! I'll be following along😃

-Joe
 

tobedetermined

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Anyway after all that I've finally made up my mind about training or topping and I've chosen..............decapitation!

That's radical for a Quaze/Dr G. But like you said, the plant seems to be loving it . . . ;)

although the buds have great structure, they're of course nothing like Barney's advertised.

Your plant certainly doesn't look like the Dr G that I grew.
 

Passenger101

Active member
I’ve topped and mainlined them pretty seriously and they just ended up growing like octopi. I don’t recall much internodal change though.

In any case they all look happy.
:sasmokin:
 

FranJan

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Holy F*ckstones, where does the time go......Flowering Day 1 (Quaze and EOC)

Anyway I put the Quaze/Grinspoon and the Eye Of Cthulhu into the flowering tent yesterday so let's say today's post is Day 1 of Flowering for them, (November 3rd). The Eye of Providence is being held out because it had a little issue with the topping. Seems the apicle dominant branch decided it didn't want the job and sort of withered for a bit. Or something. Anyway kinda weird but she seems to be growing fine now. Maybe I should of done some more aggressive training with her like I did with the Quaze, (HST to the two top branches).

Also I transplanted and added both the extra EOP, (which is coming around after looking a bit pale in her 16oz cup), and the Crawling Eye to the main flowering area and it's going through it's own transformation since the transplanting ~6 days ago. More traditional leaves are begining to appear and while I was originally going to heavily train and HST her I may now top and train her instead. Going have to make up my mind soon because she's getting a bit big for training or just straight flowering IMHO.

Any way here's some snaps from Nov. 1st. It's slowed down at work a bit so hopefully more time for pictures and posts.

Group Photo
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EOC- She looks a bit floppy here but she was getting thirsty and I gave her 3 cups of water last night and she looks great today.
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EOP #1 - If you look closely off-center you'll see the withering I was talking about. That was basically the top and she just said later everyone. That part looks better everyday since this photo was taken and the plant is growing well but I think my training is mostly to blame.
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Quaze - Looking good but I still feel there's somethin afoot. Seems to like the new light. Very interested to see where's she's gonna go.
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EOP#2 - Not much to say atm, she's just about recovered from her cup bondage and will probably get topped just to see if she responds like her sister.
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CE - The most intriguing plant. I will definitely take a clone of this because with those parents, (Quaze x Ace's Zamaldelica), you may end up with a very magical plant.
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This is some of the new growth that appeared to pop up overnight. More and more of these leaves seem to be appearing. Plus other thin leaves and mis-shaped leaves are "fixing" themselves. This is kinda waylaying my 16 week fears. Guess baby just needs her space.
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@Passenger101 Dude, hope you are well. Still trying to answer that email, (LOL), but I just wanted to say "high" and hope you're happy with things so far. Also I do have to ask you to clarify something for me. I'll tell the folks at home what I'm talking about later on.

@tobedetermined Wanted to ask you something. Have you noticed Barney's has changed their pictures of Grinspoon to something that strongly looks like Neville's Haze? No more "pearloid" pics either. Did their original cut die or did they just give up on it for some reason? Or crossed it? And does this picture below look like what you grew? I remember an online aquaintence grew one that looked like the one @JoeGrows420 is growing on RIU back in 2015-16 methinks but I don't have a working account there anymore so I can't see any photos to confirm that.
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And A Very Belated Happy Halloween To All The Haunted Souls Out There.

It Just Ain't Halloween Without A LIttle Frankie Z.





 

Passenger101

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They look great!
The new Barney’s photo of Grinspoon looks exactly like the Quaze. I feel like the pearl flowering variety was never a consistent pheno and they just decided to use the photo of the more prevalent pheno.
 

tobedetermined

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And does this picture below look like what you grew?

Sorry - I missed your question. And the answer is yes. That looks exactly like the plant that I grew. My take on the story . . . The pearl pheno appeared but it was a low yielder so the larger yielding "big cola arm" pheno was preferred and in the later seed production the pearl has disappeared. I have been talking a bit with reef, so I will have to ask him sometime. He was breeding for Dari at the time. and the relationship ended badly and since then, Barney's has renamed and altered a number of his creations. Pink Kush, Acapulco Gold, Dr G . . . They are all great grows but from what I have gathered, the originals were better.
 

FranJan

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Update time, let's dump some photos:

Things seem well atm with only some minor issues. I've switched to 2:1 reverse osmosis to tap water for feedings and have added small amounts of TPS One to supplement some nutrients that may be missing from the AgroThrive Fruit and Flower. The girls are doing good with some small issues with the EoC but more on that later. These pics are from the 23rd which is FD 22 for the Grinspoon/Quaze and EoC and FD 16 for the EoP*.
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Quaze/Grinspoon-
Seems to be doing fine, the four colas are devoloping nicely with good nodal length which makes me pretty happy about topping her. Growth is nice and steady, no runaway stretch. No smell yet.

Nov. 11th (FD 4)
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Nov 19th (FD 11)
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11/23 (FD 15)
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EoC-
With the exception of some blemishes on a few leaves she's looking great. I'm thinking it's a calcium issue so I'm keeping her feed ph'd to 6.8 to hopefully avoid a calcium deficiency. I probably should train her but I just love the way the tops look atm. Will probably look a bit different next photo dump, she's getting a bit tall for my tastes.

Nov 11th (FD 4)
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Nov 19th (FD) 11)
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Nov 23rd (FD 15)
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EoP*- Okay so I was going to ask Passenger101 a question but I kinda figured it out myself. I just want to clarify that there are 2 EoP strains. This is a Eye of Providence Surpassed, (87.5% Quaze x 12.5% Durban poison), as oppossed to the Eye of Providence Prophecy, (50% Quaze x 50% Durban Poison). In my rush to get the seeds going I didn't realize there were two EoPs gifted to me. Oh well no big deal except that I might of flowered her a bit sooner with her Quaze x (Quaze x Durban) lineage. Gotta say she immediately started her stretch so I am in the process of training her with a simple less destructive technique I call banding. It's like somewhere between LST and HST. I think of it as MST ;). BTW her first full day of flowering was the 8th of November.

EoP-S Nov 11 (FD 4)
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Nov 19th (FD 12)
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Nov 23 (FD 16)

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I'm gonna examine q way of posting some pictures online so we can work around the 10 picture limit here at ICM otherwise take care and of course a HAPPY Turkey Day to all you gobblers out there.

And it's just not Thanksgiving without a little of Arlo's favorite restaurant.

 
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Passenger101

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Hello FJ,
Sorry about the slow response.

First off, the plants look glorious!!!

I was pretty sure I sent you the 3 Eye of Providence varieties, so I looked at the first photo you posted and they were all there.

Eye of Providence Prophecy (Durban x Quaze )

Eye of Providence ( (Durban x Quaze) x Quaze) = Quaze 75%/Durban 25%

Eye of Providence Surpassed ( ( (Durban x Quaze) x Quaze) x Quaze) = Quaze 87.5%/Durban 12.5%

EOP Prophecy is a solid plant. I think we grew 8 of them and they were all fairly consistent, but a bit too much Durban for my liking.

I picked the one that had the most flavor and fastest flowering and crossed that. Flowering was around 10 weeks with the last 5 weeks being 11 hours of light.

EOP was even more consistent and was basically a slightly shorter, physically beefier Quaze with a little more spicy flavor. The high to me was identical to the Quaze.

Because I’m a curious monkey 🙊, I had to find out what would happen if I crossed it one more time, hence the EOP Surpassed. I only grew out 3 of these and they all seemed to be subtly different from the straight Quaze, but too subtle.

Again, thank you for treating these seeds better than they have ever been treated and documenting them so nicely.

Peace :sasmokin:

Strangers on this road we are on
We are not two we are one
 
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CaitO’K

New member
Hello world.

Newbie here. Just soaking up not just the grow report on this thread, but pheno hunting and cannabis grow culture in general.

I just accidentally grew out a pearly pheno on my second grow. Sweet Seeds Jack 47 XL Auto 72 days. Like OP I’m a certified medical marijuana patient in NY state so this is a legal grow. 🌱🙏

I had never heard of this pearly or beaded pheno but someone on Overgrow pointed it out and I went down a Dr. Grinspoon rabbit hole. This plant! I’m seeking psychedelic healing meds and Grinspoon seems like this exemplified.

Forgive me if I’m being rude posting on this thread! Just getting the lay of the land on these forums.

Anyway in the spirit of here’s what I grew.
 

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FranJan

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Zoinks it's been a bit, hasn't it? So let's see.....

Had some grow issues pop-up, but the main culprit, (along with my watering habits), seems to be a lack of sulfur in my soil-mix which is limiting the amount of nitrogen available in the root zone, (and interfering with nitrogen fixation too). Or that's at least according to the experts. Trying to add sulfur to the waterings, (soaking Espoma Acidifier in water for 24-48 hours before feeding), along with adding it to the soil seems to have helped but the EoP and Quaze seemed to have got the worst of it before I could try to get on top of it. So far they seem to be holding up. So let's get some pix going........

EoP (FD-54)
She was the first one from this group that started eating her fan leaves which was just about 2 days after training her. Thought it was stress that was causing some yellowing on the bottom leaves but I realized a little late it was nutritional. Tried feeding, not feeding, top-feeding, Cal/Mag and ReCharge feedings. Finally did a little bit of online re-edumacation and it started to become apparent it was a soil issue. Anyway she looks OK now and while she's not growing fat colas she may just cross that finish line with some fine smoke.
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Quaze (FD-53)
She's been temperamental and on her own schedule since Day 1 so I've been trying to stay on top of her. Definitely went south for a week or so but a 6.5 flush and sulfur applications, along with some kale and bloom boosters, (more sulfur in the booster), got her back in the game. She's become a bit floppy, (found her all over the place a few days ago), so support is a must for her now. I will say once I started with the Incredible Bulk she's been foxtailing and fattening up ever since. Still a little light on the density but hey Grinspoon's not known for tight buds. She looks hungry, huh?
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EoC (FD- 53)
Hail mighty Cthulhu! She's had a little bit of a setback too but is still growing like a champ. Her colas are definitely nice and firm. They started flopping around a few weeks ago so support is a must. She's been an excellent plant to grow epescially as far as stretch goes. Has a beautiful hazy smell and looks to be about halfway home.
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Now I'd like to point out that I've got a little more space in the old grow tent so I've added those two other plants I started previously. This is the other EoP and that crazy looking Crawling Eye, (made all the more crazier by me "training" her). They've been in the flowering tent since December 23rd and 15th respectively.

EoP II (FD-8)
I wish you all could've of seen this plant about 2 weeks ago. I was at wits end trying to figure out why this plant was going south but a few feedings with the Espoma sulfur additive really changed everything. Seems to be adapting to flowering quite nicely.
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TCE (FD-16)
OMG this plant is just THE all time survivor. I've trained and chopped and topped and HST'ed her to death and she just grows like it's nothing. I don't even know where the top of this plant is anymore and I don't want to know at this point. Why this plant isn't dead I do not know so I'm just gonna stand back now and see what her next move is. Probably gonna go all Audrey on me!
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So Happy New Year everyone. I'm Covid bound for another day so no party for me tonight :(. Gonna miss Uncle Warren and Gov't Mule at the Beacon :mad: but I guess in the grand scheme it's for the best :geek:.

FU22!
(Except for during the summer when that really nice fellow gave me some wonderful magic beans)


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