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hello ppl, im running a aero system ,everything was fine until a few days ago these symptoms started appearing...
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Some people live by the lucas formula, but imo and experience you can't use it on every strain it does not work like that....... each strain holds there own some can take it some can't.
the guy from the growshop told me it should be a lack of micro nutes, and to add more delta 9 or micro and epslon salts...but since i tought my EC was higher than i wanted it could be shutting down the roots...
I am going to give you a thread I made on people who got screwed over by hydro shop guys telling them BS advice....... also check my quote for one of the worst I have seen been given.......
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=84393
Anyways, never listen to them; but dude, that is hella high ppms for the size of that plant; you never go by directions; always by the size of the plant.
Remove the h202, never use it in your system as a standalone; it does more damage as it kills off all the good and bad stuff and after killing it off it leaves your plants defenseless.
Your ppms should be around 500-600 tops right now, flush the system and add 5ml per gallon of water of everything but the delta 9, that is a bloom booster use 1/2 the dosage since you have a bloom fert already.
Are these guys in flowering yet?
If not; do not use the bloom booster yet.
IS your meter calibrated or fixed now giving you an accurate reading?
the guy from the growshop told me it should be a lack of micro nutes, and to add more delta 9 or micro and epslon salts...but since i tought my EC was higher than i wanted it could be shutting down the roots...
I am going to give you a thread I made on people who got screwed over by hydro shop guys telling them BS advice....... also check my quote for one of the worst I have seen been given.......
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=84393
Anyways, never listen to them; but dude, that is hella high ppms for the size of that plant; you never go by directions; always by the size of the plant.
Remove the h202, never use it in your system as a standalone; it does more damage as it kills off all the good and bad stuff and after killing it off it leaves your plants defenseless.
Your ppms should be around 500-600 tops right now, flush the system and add 5ml per gallon of water of everything but the delta 9, that is a bloom booster use 1/2 the dosage since you have a bloom fert already.
Are these guys in flowering yet?
If not; do not use the bloom booster yet.
IS your meter calibrated or fixed now giving you an accurate reading?
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this is not ppm stich, is microsiemens....its like 1150=1.1EC=707ppm should i lower it even more?should they be burning with this ppm?
should i switch to normal formula instead of lucas formula?
they under 12/12 for 3 or 4days now,and were under 14on/16off for 4 days as well, so i added the delta 9 since it says on the label that i should give it to the plants 10 days before flowering starts...
i also added to the plants due to a bug problem, baysol combi, from bayer, its a pesticide...they seem not to have liked it much, could it be only my impression?
my hydro guy grows weed too so i believe him
thanks
should i switch to normal formula instead of lucas formula?
they under 12/12 for 3 or 4days now,and were under 14on/16off for 4 days as well, so i added the delta 9 since it says on the label that i should give it to the plants 10 days before flowering starts...
i also added to the plants due to a bug problem, baysol combi, from bayer, its a pesticide...they seem not to have liked it much, could it be only my impression?
my hydro guy grows weed too so i believe him
thanks
Yes, lower it that is high for those size of the plants.
I would switch to normal formula, personally I would never use lucas formula as it's personaly preference really....... I just don't think it works with a lot of strains, it does work good if you find a strain that can take the formula though. Do not use the bloom booster yet, as for the first week of flowering they don's switch over right away it takes around a week for indica and 2 weeks tops for mostly sativish.
So after the first week of flowering is really when you want to use a booster, but don't use much of it; cause the size of your plants, when you are using nutes you have to take in account the NPK Ratio of everything you use and if oyu are using 2 bloom nutes a booster and a normal nute you have to add up the NPK value X that by the number of teaspoons you are using and you get your strength NPK value you are using.....
Say you have a value of 5-5-5 for your bloom fert and your booster is 10-10-10
the directions on the back say 1 tsp per gallon of water......
You are using 2 teaspoons of bloom nute per gallon and you have 1 gallon container......
bloom booster you use 1 teaspoon
so you would have 10-10-10 with your bloom ferts since you doubled the dosage.
and for bloom booster it stays 10-10-10 since you used the normal dosage it said on the back so all in all you have 20-20-20 NPK
This is why you need to be careful when you use a lot of additives, people do not take in account for this and which ends up frying plants, you can use a root stimulator for a bit and then use a bloom,veg and micro and a bloom booster and that is all you really need,
I am not saying to go out and buy a root stim or anything; I am just explaining how a lot of people slam there plants with additives and not bother to add up everything they are putting in there.
baysol combi
is a chemical fert I think, I am not familiar with chemical ferts but anything from bayer can't be good; any chemical fert I tell peeps to stay away since the nature of our hobby......
There is many other alternatives to not using chemical pesticides.
When did you add it to them and what did they do after you used it?
Problem is; without seeing your grow he can't say for sure what it is; it's nearly impossible unless you know details about the grow and see pics it's just the nature of it.
I see a lockout of micros and nitrogen from high nute content, so lower the dosage a bit.
WHich meter are you using?
.5 .6 or .7 conversion? seems like you are using .7 with the EC you gave.......
I would switch to normal formula, personally I would never use lucas formula as it's personaly preference really....... I just don't think it works with a lot of strains, it does work good if you find a strain that can take the formula though. Do not use the bloom booster yet, as for the first week of flowering they don's switch over right away it takes around a week for indica and 2 weeks tops for mostly sativish.
So after the first week of flowering is really when you want to use a booster, but don't use much of it; cause the size of your plants, when you are using nutes you have to take in account the NPK Ratio of everything you use and if oyu are using 2 bloom nutes a booster and a normal nute you have to add up the NPK value X that by the number of teaspoons you are using and you get your strength NPK value you are using.....
Say you have a value of 5-5-5 for your bloom fert and your booster is 10-10-10
the directions on the back say 1 tsp per gallon of water......
You are using 2 teaspoons of bloom nute per gallon and you have 1 gallon container......
bloom booster you use 1 teaspoon
so you would have 10-10-10 with your bloom ferts since you doubled the dosage.
and for bloom booster it stays 10-10-10 since you used the normal dosage it said on the back so all in all you have 20-20-20 NPK
This is why you need to be careful when you use a lot of additives, people do not take in account for this and which ends up frying plants, you can use a root stimulator for a bit and then use a bloom,veg and micro and a bloom booster and that is all you really need,
I am not saying to go out and buy a root stim or anything; I am just explaining how a lot of people slam there plants with additives and not bother to add up everything they are putting in there.
baysol combi
is a chemical fert I think, I am not familiar with chemical ferts but anything from bayer can't be good; any chemical fert I tell peeps to stay away since the nature of our hobby......
There is many other alternatives to not using chemical pesticides.
When did you add it to them and what did they do after you used it?
Problem is; without seeing your grow he can't say for sure what it is; it's nearly impossible unless you know details about the grow and see pics it's just the nature of it.
I see a lockout of micros and nitrogen from high nute content, so lower the dosage a bit.
WHich meter are you using?
.5 .6 or .7 conversion? seems like you are using .7 with the EC you gave.......
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baysol combi is the worst shit ever...it almost killed all my plants again....
my last grow i used it to kill bugs, and everything got fucked up...i tought it was the ferts or something....afterall it was the dam pesticide...
this grow i used it again...and i just realised this dam pesticide killed my plants last time, and almost killed them this time...after i used it they just got all the problems they had last time...
big lesson for me...
ill do that stich, they need to go down in the nutes i think they got major stress over this pestishit thing..., thanks a lot
my last grow i used it to kill bugs, and everything got fucked up...i tought it was the ferts or something....afterall it was the dam pesticide...
this grow i used it again...and i just realised this dam pesticide killed my plants last time, and almost killed them this time...after i used it they just got all the problems they had last time...
big lesson for me...
ill do that stich, they need to go down in the nutes i think they got major stress over this pestishit thing..., thanks a lot
