Dear diary, 12-12 from seedling.

[CocoNut 420]

So it's that time again, it's time to harvest them
I snapped a few pics before they come down.

There's some interesting aromas I can't wait to get wrapping them into joints

 

[CocoNut 420]

There's not been much happening the crop is drying, clones and seedlings look happy.

I cut some lcg cuts about a wk ago then added blockbuster and tangie 2/3 days later.

Blockbuster x exo and blockbuster x grape fog my own pollen chuck.

From the 2 Hsc blueberry muffin only 1 sprouted and it's not doing great, it'll grow it needs more time.

I started 2 lemon cherry gelato s1 in 2ltr airpots at the weekend they've both sprouted and growing away happy!

You wanna see some tits?

Bluetits

Take it easy folk's

 

[shiva82]

lovely tits and another great job with the grow . cheers coco

 

[CocoNut 420]

Working out a plan here I want to keep the blueberry, dna and lcg under 24hrs for a bit longer and flip the other's.

I swapped one of the lemon cherry gelato seeds into the biggest pouch I have

And put grape fog seedling into the 2ltr airpot.

I plugged the timer in they're starting 12-12 today, Thurs 29th May...

Edit...potted exo clone today into 2ltr airpot...Friday 30th May.

That's the blueberry over its right shoulder, it might break out into normal growth now its deffo come on yesterday and today

 

[CocoNut 420]

It's been a few days things are moving along nicely.

Plants can be frugal when needed, the plant ^^^ front between the tubs gets through 24hrs with a feed, sometimes a feather could knock it over but it's never once been wilted, it's not too important it's twin blueberry muffin is below at the back and grape fog front.

The lcg clones I cut last week were from a re vegging plant

it's something I've not cloned before, there's roots today on 1 of them today
I'm sure the others will follow soon?

The blueberry still looks like shit I almost pulled it today...a knee jerk reaction

It's not in my way and I'm not in hurry so I'll let it roll and see what happens?

 

[oldmaninbc]

There's some interesting aromas I can't wait to get wrapping them into joints

I haven't been able to smoke for quite some time now because of lung disease. Since 2010 it's been cookie everyday. I do miss the flavors of cannabis, one gets from smoking. Cookies just don't offer that same experience as smoking, at least when it comes to flavor.

Another fine harvest and the next lined up. Any new learning experiences that are mentionable. I've enjoyed your thread since learning of it.

 

[CocoNut 420]

I haven't been able to smoke for quite some time now because of lung disease. Since 2010 it's been cookie everyday. I do miss the flavors of cannabis, one gets from smoking. Cookies just don't offer that same experience as smoking, at least when it comes to flavor.

Another fine harvest and the next lined up. Any new learning experiences that are mentionable. I've enjoyed your thread since learning of it.

Hey bud thank you I'm glad you're enjoying the thread
I'm so sorry to hear you can't smoke it these days, that's not so good bro.

Something I'll take away to try in future is a something for training, there's probably other things but this comes to mind atm.

Instead of using bends I'd buckle/fold the stem, the bends are OK but the plants kinda closed up and needed bending back down periodically, once they're in place after re potting I'm toiling to get back to them to correct any issues, I think folding might rule out those issues?

Cheers

 

[oldmaninbc]

Hey bud thank you I'm glad you're enjoying the thread
I'm so sorry to hear you can't smoke it these days, that's not so good bro.

Something I'll take away to try in future is a something for training, there's probably other things but this comes to mind atm.
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Instead of using bends I'd buckle/fold the stem, the bends are OK but the plants kinda closed up and needed bending back down periodically, once they're in place after re potting I'm toiling to get back to them to correct any issues, I think folding might rule out those issues?

Cheers

I can't help but think a good training method would be beneficial to production. Myself, I just kind of wing it, which in most cases leaves me with branches all over the place. Not the best practice.

In my old age, I'm having a more difficult time growing. This last crop I carried two 4L milk jugs of water for plant watering and hurt my back and was down to carrying one 4L jug of water. I couldn't lift the 5 gal. plant containers. I need to simplify my methods and make things easier on my old and damaged body.

Yes, I do miss smoking, for flavor but have come to enjoy the benefits of edibles.

 

[CocoNut 420]

I can't remember if I mentioned the new 250w led I've installed in my clone tent?

After thinking about it i decided going from 96w of t5 to 60/65w (25% of 250w) of led wasn't a great idea with new sprouts so I hung the t5s again until they'd grown on a little.

They've grown on now but It's not too warm here I'm kinda toiling getting temps up with t5s so I'm going to need a heater before I can go the led route.

As it happens I spent like 6/8wks finding a suitable heater for the tent, would you believe I bought 4 new tube heaters consecutively and all 4 were faulty...omg i nearly gave up, 4 heaters had to be returned how grim is that
Thankfully it's all behind me I've neat 90w tube heater and it actually works

Edit....I got tube heater into the tent on a heat controller to keep between 19/21⁰C at night.

2 ice cream tubs saved the day, I only needed something to prop it up above the tray whoa it's going to be tropical in there tonight

 

[CocoNut 420]

I remember the issues now, the pitfalls of using led over t5s are all coming back to me 🫢

With t5s I plug them in that's it job done the temps are never far off, if the ambient temp is too low the radiated heat from t5s keeps everything good ± they're loveable

With led I need a heater + hardware to control it, heat is good with led but the floor doesn't get much of it without a fan.

So I need a small fan to get the heat down to the floor, that's good for spreading heat but then the constant breeze dries out my pouches too quickly and messes with my ec?
OK then raise the tray off the floor...oh I can't, the led is already too bright (60w), I've already got the light raised to max so raising the plants isn't a option atm.
I wasn't totally beat I come up with this after trying it here and there.

At near point blank to the roof a 5/6" fan is enough to gently sway the leaves down below (think summer breeze) that's also enough to stir heat around hopefully without having too much drying effect, the lights been off a couple of hours it's 23.6⁰c

That transition went pretty sweet that's a 1st.
I need to get the harvest out of the tent now and get those plants into the tent and potted up asap where possible

 

[CocoNut 420]

They're around 3wks now this next week will reveal the sex on them...fingers crossed for bubblegum in particular, they look promising I've no real concern looking at the overall picture theyre more female than male looking atm...I should say I've been wrong tons of times!

The exo/bbstr and gf/bbstr are 2 of bigger examples, the bubblegum has defined pointy serations you can maybe tell them?

I've bent/buckled the stem on grape fog seedling, I flattened the stem last night but it was upright this morning, I've buckled it again only a bit more seriously.

The environment in the new tent is sweet I've increased the power by another 25% (20k lux ±) 15/16k luk with the door open

Atm it's costing 120% more to run led over t5s, watt for watt led is brighter no doubts but it has less heat so i need a heater etc negating any saving its considerably more at 60/120% more.
For the extra it's costing me the environment is near ideal and I've a much bigger space effectively lit/heated.

Have a nice weekend folk's

 

[majik.bloom]

Looks like things are growing well in here! Nice solution for top side heat 🫡 finally got a heater that works properly! Which one did you end up using? Hoping your bubblegum is female! Peace

 

[CocoNut 420]

Looks like things are growing well in here! Nice solution for top side heat 🫡 finally got a heater that works properly! Which one did you end up using? Hoping your bubblegum is female! Peace

Hey bud, it's a 90w tube heater, after #4 faulty heater i got the brand name off a tube heater I've had working for years...the brand is "Hylite"

I've got to say bro I've been well impressed with your gear, the grape fog I bent down on Friday is from Majik Bloom.

I've a couple of other lcg aswell I started around 10 days ago from Majik Bloom.

This crop I've got 2 clones originating from Majik Bloom (1 that I grow regularly) and I've 3 other strains from seeds, great stuff bro 10/10

 

[majik.bloom]

Hi friend good info. I was using a compact fan heater on sensor that worked well but not as safe as your solution Will look into that brand of heater. Thank you for sharing!

I'm so grateful for you growing them out and seeing what's in the seeds! Haha nice finding some strength in the stems too. Grape Fog was from tissue culture, perhaps it has a role to play the succeeding generation Here's to you finding more keepers in the future

Your exo/bb cross looks superb, frosty and chunky! Are you thinking of working back to exo? I've a good recipe for STS happy to share. 500ml of a & b in the refrigerator would last you a long time

All the best, peace ~

 

[CocoNut 420]

This monster cloning thing fricken rocks!

Cloning in flower works to our advantage when pheno hunting, they're easy to care for and they re veg slow enough that we've time to grow, dry then test the product before investing any time on clones that migh end in the bin.

The alternative of 12/16 regular clones rooting them then those growing vigorously for the duration of flowering, drying and testing... omg that doesn't bear thinking about

I snapped a few pics of the clones I repotted a while back 11/12th May iirc?
Grape fog..

Exo

Lemon cherry gelato

Blockbuster clone, it was potted today that and sour tangie.

The lemon cherry gelato I bent down on Friday, pic Saturday.

I can't imagine the work/space monster cloning has saved me over the years, it's a super method

@majik.bloom thanks bro I'll hold ofd with the recipe for now but I'll maybe get back to you later, I've got silver nitrate and sodium thio sulphate I think it's called, I've a couple of plants I'm going to try and reverse but I need to get my tent organised before I can deal with that.

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[CocoNut 420]

Yaayyy It's a boy

I'm going to let it roll and maybe pollinate a few lower bubblegum buds if the other 1 is female

I put another buckle in the lemon cherry gelato stem I want the other shoots to catch on so everything grow out evenly?

My new tent set up could buy me a couple of weeks more in there, the light is suitable to get them into the early stages of flowering.

You might remember that point blank fan I installed facing the roof?

It increased the humidity from the low 70,s to low 80,s
Blowing over damp pouches and leaf surfaces (@250x)

It's no surprise fans raise humidity and dry out foliage aka windburn in some cases

Fans blow

A novelty leaf

Cool

 

[CocoNut 420]

I noticed blemishes on a few plants and they just generally aren't looking great they've a kinda tired looking with a yellowish appearance?
I've been thinking 25% + another 25% is 100% increase, the total sum again = 100% >[

Light stress, anyone not agree after checking below?

This pic was Mon/Tues

This morning, after 1 day with the light dimmed back (27/28⁰c)

They've improved slightly I think, the leaves are more horizontal today than clawed down.

Yesterday morning I turned the light intensity down and the heater up enough to offset the drop in power so it's still 27/28⁰c.

Hopefully that'll be it sorted, if it's not I won't mess around trying to correct problems with led I'll change back to t5s/cfl

I've a 150w 65k cfl that might be ok to get them back on track (maybe a tad old), the canopy is a bit big for my regular t5s but I've another 4 loose ones, the thing is they're a pain to hang I'd need to fashion something to make them kinda work with the other's, I need a quick fix

I've a euro shade I can hang the 150w cfl with that, tbf I'd kinda forgotten about cfl,s they're not like high efficiency but they veg nice plants regardless, it's an option if things don't work out with led.

Good news!
The other bubblegum is a girl
Pic to follow...

Have a nice weekend folk's

 

[CocoNut 420]

I ended up swapping back to t5s lesson learned, 25% increments are too much for seedlings, 25% to 50% is a 100% increase whichever way you dice it, tbf had i stayed at 25% they'd probably have been ok, anyhow t5s have sorted them they're looking ok now.

Moving forward I'm going to try that led with another driver I can dim properly 0/100%...any problems whatsoever I can see me settling for t5s or cfls they just work without hassle all seasons.

I'm in the process of potting up things are a bit upside down atm but most importantly they're all in bigger pots and have plenty light I'll get finished tomorrow

I've re potted my own exo/grape fog I'm holding off with exo/bb to see how space works out, blockbuster/gf could be a killer they could work well togetherexo/bb can only be exo like at best...I've a enough of it and I might even flower exo mum again tbf i just can have enough of that.

Fwiw If you've a led light with 25% increments with a controller/daisy chain port you can solder a dimmer to a rj11 cable and get 0/100% dimming...I've got my flower light in that configuration
I feel 560w or is it 580w? 1 or other it's a touch lower than i want but 750w a bit much adding a 0/100% is how I got around that conundrum!...i should've been an electrics guy nah I jest idk shit about it other than it hertz when you get a shock haha...yeh I'll get my coat

Take it easy folk's 🕊

 

[CocoNut 420]

So I got everything straightened out mostly, I've since put the pots into the autopots trays but not turned them on yet.

You might remember I potted some clones a while back?
Below) grape fog

Exo

Lemon cherry gelato

Have a nice weekend everyone