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Day 25 flower- from healthy to sick and dying- please help

srich250

Member
! This site is the bomb because of all the good peeps that contribute!!!
I truly hope these girls can be saved!!!!
PLEASE HELP:)!!!!

I just got into week 4 flowering bomb girls that were probably the best I've ever done.until 5 days ago when they all looked like they were dying. The leaves started turning grey within a day or so. There was no tip burn at all as off day 25. They are about 30-36" tall and about 12-16" diameter.

Two weeks before this I sprayed with "green cleaner" as a preventative to spider mites and powdery mildew. Then 1 week before this I sprayed with mighty wash. Lights off or just before they went off. I thought I was being careful enough not to burn the leaves.

I can't figure out what is killing them. The sprays or my feeding.

I've grown 1000's of girls and I've never killed them all like this except burning them to death in coco when I tried it my first two times. Over feeding and letting it go dry between watering. Burned every 4-5' tall thick plant to a crisp before I could flush and try saving them. I tried but they never recovered.


So back to solving and hopefully saving these ladies now in week 4:-(

I'm using advanced nutrients grand master full line. They say to feed max every feeding with 15-20% runoff. But that's an EC2.5/3.0 or Hanna ppm 1250/1500. Depending on what week you are following the schedule.

Here's my setup
Environment
Temp 75-81
RH 45-65%
Co2 800-1200ppm
Lights are mixed
- Fluence spydrX 1200, 630w CMH DE, and a 1000w DE ePapillion
1gal hard pots canna coco coir DTW
advanced nutrients grand master line
Filtered water is EC 0.3
Oxygen stone in nutrient "brain bucket" for mixing


I have usually been feeding about 4-8oz per plant 1-3x per day. I never let the coco go full dry.
I have been checking runoff and even if I feed at 2.5 or 3.0 the runoff even while they are dying is EC1.6-3.0 max. So I'm doubting if it's my feeding even though I don't know why they say to feed max nutes per their schedule with runoff every time. I have called them many times and they all say the same thing. So I only do a max feed once per week and then it's been more like 1.12-2.2EC for all in between feelings with a flush of 1.0 once per week.

RUNOFF ALWAYS GOES DOWN AND so I can't figure out how I killed them all.

I know this is a tough one to figure out. I will post pics also.

The one thing to know is that the plants that are in the shadows with low light are almost perfect. Not burned at all. ??????????? Weird!!!! This makes me think the sprays killed them not over feeding. ????

Please help:) I cherish this site and so many experts out there. I'm new to coco except for my two failed runs a couple yrs ago which is why it took me this long to try it again.
 

srich250

Member
Update and questions

Update and questions

- so far the bud sites are still looking good.
- all top 12"-18" of fan leaves 99% dead and crisp. Most sugar leaves and some fan leaves below this are good and a few sugar leaves above are good. But most tips are burning Grey not regular tip burn.

- do I cut off all dying leaves and attached bud sites or do I just remove all dead leaves and leave the bud sites if they are alive ?

Thx in advance for any and all of your help!!!!!!
 

Dankwolf

Active member
Looks like you may have scorched them with what ever you sprayed (too heavy a dose maybe ). I would cut dead parts of leafs off and see if that helps . also i would cut back on ferts (i am not a hydro guy but anything over 1000 pm can be risky ). I belive ec for hydro should never be above 2.0 . looks like you burnt them good . hope you can salvage some thing . some low ppm water for awile mite be a good idea .hopfully i hydro guy can step in and help more
 

Dankwolf

Active member
I would also pull lights back a bit till growth returns to normal . lots of light/heat + sick plants = death . they need a chance to heal . maybe do a foiler spray with distiled water to wash of plants and give a little water to uper growth but i think yoyr a little far in to flower to foiler feed . i have foiler feed up till week 5 with out issue but never tried any further along then that .
 

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